India ignores US call for economic freeze, opens up Iran oil strategy

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Here you are enjoying the privileges of living in a country practicing Western democracy, free internet, expression and all, and yet you want to deny that to the Iranian people..? You're just blinded by irrational hate against the West. I don't know who indoctrinated you but it seemed he/they were pretty good at it.
Here you are sitting in your tiny patch of land and thinking you know about everything in the world, that everything in this world is as simple as 2+2=4. If anyone is 'indoctrinated', it is you, with your dangerously simplistic view of the world. Wonder why everything and everyone which is different from you scares you pro-western people so much. "OOh! Iran may make a bomb! Let's blow them to hell";"OOh! Maybe Saddam is having Chemical/Biological weapons, let's ---- Saddam","OOh! Russia, China and anyone against us are forming an Axis of Evil, let's screw them". This kind of mindset has to change.
You're just blinded by irrational hate against the West
On the contrary, the forefathers of our country were clairvoyant enough to see where this WEST would have led us with their oppression and hence struggled against them. (Oh shit! What's that you are thinking? Indian freedom fighters including Gandhi now appear same as Mullahs, right?!)
What maybe irrational hate to you is wisdom and righteous thinking in our culture and society. You, being a lapdog of our former oppressors, are in no position to judge what is hate and what is love. Which school of philosophy has your 'ancient' culture of Malaysia given birth to? None as far as I remember. On the other hand, the more one says about the Indian philosophy the more remains to be said. Therefore it would be prudent of you to think twice before writing anything about India and Indians.
 

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Queries? More like incoherent rants. My sincere apologies but he's not even entertaining... You (Messiah) will not get the satisfaction of watching me debate with him. :laugh:
 

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Queries? More like incoherent rants. My sincere apologies but he's not even entertaining... You (Messiah) will not get the satisfaction of watching me debate with him. :laugh:
Well if you believe you are right then you'd nail him with your superior and moral point of view.

or you have no way to counter the points he has raised.

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Believe me I'm game anytime for a sporting opportunity to tickle somebody's mind. But that fellow is not even factually correct about my positions to so blatantly bastardize the discussion with vicious personal attacks.
 
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So Much for Sanctions: China, Iran Iron Out Oil Agreement

China has, at least for now, dashed any hopes that it plans to obey tighter U.S. sanctions against Iran after hammering out an agreement to resume some imports of Iranian crude.

State-owned Unipec, one of China's top importers, reached an agreement with National Iranian Oil Co. earlier this week to renew an annual supply contract that had lapsed at the end of the year.

During the negotiations, which dragged into February and were only resolved after a visit to Beijing by Iran's deputy oil minister, imports fell by about 280,000 barrels a day and halved the amount of Iranian crude shipped to China in January and February.

Although the timing of the cuts coincided with a renewed push by the international community to apply pressure to Iran over its nuclear activities, the agreement underscores that China's dispute with Iran was strictly commercial rather political.

Beijing is typically pragmatic about its relationships with key oil producers such as Iran, which is China's third-largest supplier of crude after Saudi Arabia and Angola.

Several state-backed oil companies all renewed contracts with NOIC last year, well before U.S. sanctions were tightened, and Unipec was expected to follow suit. But with the U.S. and E.U. moving to target Iran's financial and oil sectors, Unipec may have found itself in a better bargaining position at a time when it already sought lower prices for crude supply.

China has steadfastly defended its economic ties with Iran, and U.S. officials are typically met with a chilly reception whenever they address China's crude purchases.

Earlier this year, the U.S. slapped sanctions on Zhuhai Zhenrong, China's largest buyer of Iranian crude, accusing the company of selling gasoline to Iran. The move was largely symbolic, considering that Zhuhai has no known assets or business ties to the U.S.

Meanwhile, the timing of the agreement also coincides with a visit by Xi Jinping, China's next leader, to the U.S., where he is hearing concerns over Iran's nuclear program and is being encouraged to cooperate with international efforts on Iran.

The move by Unipec sends a strong message that while China recognizes the need to resolve Iran's nuclear issue, it isn't about to cave to Western pressure.

– Wayne Ma

So Much for Sanctions: China, Iran Iron Out Oil Agreement - China Real Time Report - WSJ
 

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India's decision to import Iran oil a slap on US face: ex-diplomat

India's decision to continue importing Iranian oil is a slap on the face of the United States, which is galvanising the international community to isolate Tehran, according to a former US diplomat who was Bush Administration's pointman on Indo-US civilian nuclear deal.

"This is bitterly disappointing news for those of us who have championed a close relationship with India. And, it represents a real setback in the attempt by the last three American Presidents to establish a close and strategic partnership with successive Indian governments," former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns wrote in an op-ed in current-affairs magazine 'The Diplomat' today.

"India's decision to walk out of step with the international community on Iran isn't just a slap in the face for the US, it raises questions about its ability to lead," said Burns.

India, which relies on Iran for 12 per cent of its oil imports, has refused to scale it down.

Only recently, Burns had written an op-ed in The Boston Globe arguing that the US should commit to an ambitious, long-term strategic partnership with India. "I remain convinced of its value to both countries and to the new global balance of power being created in this century," he wrote.

"With its unhelpfulness on Iran and stonewalling on implementation of the landmark US-India Civil Nuclear Agreement, however, the Indian government is now actively impeding the construction of the strategic relationship it says it wants with the United States," Burns said.

Presidents Barack Obama and George W Bush have met India more than halfway in offering concrete and highly visible commitments on issues India cares about, he said, adding unfortunately India has made no corresponding gesture in return for the big vision that Obama and Bush have offered. "It's time that India speaks much more clearly about the priority it places on its future with the United States. Most importantly, India must begin to provide the kind of visible leadership on difficult issues such as Iran that its many friends in the United States and around the world had expected to see by now," Burns wrote.

"The Indian government's ill-advised statement last week that it will continue to purchase oil from Iran is a major setback for the US attempt to isolate the Iranian government over the nuclear issue," he said as he took head on the Indian defence that India relies on Iran for 12 per cent of its oil imports and can't afford to break those trade ties.

"India has had years to adjust and make alternative arrangements. Ironically, the United States has had considerable success on the sanctions front in recent months.

"The EU has decided to implement an oil embargo on Iran, the US is introducing Central Bank sanctions and even the East Asian countries, such as China, have imported less Iranian oil in recent months. That makes India's recent pronouncements seem extremely out of step and out of touch with the new global determination to isolate and pressure Iran to negotiate in order to avoid a catastrophic war," Burns said.

India's decision to import Iran oil a slap on US face: ex-diplomat - Indian Express
 

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India seeks extra oil, LPG from Saudi Arabia

The government has sought to increase crude oil inflow from Saudi Arabia by five million tonnes from 27.33 million tonnes, as supplies from Iran is set to decline following US sanctions.

"We have sought five million tonnes (mt) of more crude oil from Saudi Arabia in 2012-13," Minister of State for Petroleum and Natural Gas R P N Singh told reporters after a meeting with Abdul Aziz Bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, Assistant Minister for Petroleum Affairs, Saudi Arabia, here.

India also sought more LPG from Saudi Arabia to meet growing energy needs.

India imports nearly two mt of LPG from Saudi Arabia. The Saudi minister said his country had spare production capacity of 2.5 million barrels a day, beyond the current output of 9.8 million barrels a day. Singh said he conveyed India's requirement of incremental quantities of Saudi Arabian oil imports in the years ahead considering the expansion in refining capacity in the country.

"Other related issues such as the imposition of arbitrary cuts imposed by Saudi Aramco on supply of butane and propane from time to time, MRPL's request for supply of crude oil on the basis of parent company guarantee instead of letter of credit and others were taken up with the Saudi side," said a government statement.

India invited Saudi participation in upcoming investment opportunities in its petroleum sector — upstream and downstream — including OPaL's Petrochemical project at Dahej and OMPL's Petrochemical project at Mangalore. "An offer was made to the Saudi side for considering equity participation in these projects as a strategic investor," it said.

Other proposed investment opportunities such as IOC's LNG project at Ennore, BPCL's LNG terminal at Kochi, HPCL's grassroot refinery in Vizag and IOC's petrochemical plant at Paradip were also discussed.

"The Saudi side assured affirmative consideration of India's request for larger quantities of crude oil and LPG while also agreeing to look into the issues raised by India relating to the hydrocarbon trade and investment between the two countries," the statement added.

India seeks extra oil, LPG from Saudi Arabia
 

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