You Are right in both ways.
i still have a doubt. how can india export brahmos missile to vietnam since its not in MTCR..good to see Russia is also in MTCR group if cunning america refuses to give advance missile/tech we have another door to try.
Countries not part of MTCR cannot export missiles with more than 300 km range and 300 kg warhead .
thanx .. got it.. now .. .............is there any doctrine for Missile manufacturing?? i can recall before attacking Iraq..america though UN seized its many missiles..citing missile dimension,engines etc exceeding the premissible limit..
Hi Guys , Long time eh ? was busy
For Increasing range, it's in our national security issue and won't be compromised at all.Hi Guys , Long time eh ? was busy
so we've made it to mtcr and we may have to wait a few years before we get into nsg ?
meanwhile the waivers to deal with nsg members will be heck of a useful
i think we should take it real easy on any further development of long range missiles as these ave a v negative effect on the mind from a psychological point of view
we already have a declared 5000 km capability which many know is actually more like 9000 km ( we had decided to play-down our range capability and it think that was a great idea and strategy )
........ as long as we limit the range of our missiles to cover any point in china i am confident the international community will support us in any altercation with china or peskystan regarding missile technology transfer and indeed other related issues
and the range of such weapons when ship mounted is sufficient to cover the area of the IOR from any point of view ...plus our range already achieved is also sufficient for the missile defence shield projects
so we should hopefully avoid increasing range which at this stage could be attracting unnecessary attention but rather go for hypersonic plus plus and accuracy
also after we get sufficient technology from the mtcr members we should seriously CONSIDER ( i said consider and not go full steam ahead but consider ) signing the NPT ....why , ? because our defence arrangements regarding nuclear tech is already pretty solid .....even though china can block us from official membership, we can still get the tech from bi-lateral agreements via the waivers
regarding nuclear tech we are solidly doing our own research which is the pride and fear of many nations , not excluding the usa , ,,,... they too regard our nuke research scientists with awe
what we therefore would prefer to do is to get ourselves to be more " socially acceptable " and thereby get invitation and entry to the various high tables and get the economy to challenge that of china's
the great need of the day is economic development rather that defence although of course i am in no way advocating being lax in any area
the stigma of our 1974 test is mostly removed but still not entirely ... and we need to do a bit more to fully assure the international community eg EU .... and i think we can afford to sign that dastardly NPT even if we do not have a declared megaton device which after all is now considered to be less usefully than a larger number of smaller devices ....so the need to test for megaton is no longer a necessity and we have reached a desirable plateau as regards nuke devices and need technology in other areas and that will come a lot more easily if we sign npt
it will also put TREMENDOUS pressure on pakistan and psychologically will be an EARTHQUAKE for them !!!
bottom line :_ defence wise we are more or less on track ....the big need is the economy and the perception of india for investment purposes and if we play ball with the west by co-operating with them on the vital dangerous areas ( eg NPT ) it will change their perception of us
and peskystan in contrast will become the INTRANSIGENT ROGUE ..... it will be like the 1960's in reverse where pak was the darling ....now we will be it and they will be the double-dealing terrorist incubator .....now that would be nice for a change wouldn't it ?
well the opportunity is in our hands , .......let's make the best of it !!
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Actually, we should cruise ahead and waste no more time in establishing means than theories on missile capabilities. As we have seen that the means have silenced our many pesky neighbors.i think we should take it real easy on any further development of long range missiles as these ave a v negative effect on the mind from a psychological point of view
Cant bet on the international community when there is a real world crisis but we can bet only on our own established technical capabilities to speak for us.
This is the exact fear each nation has on each other but which each nations R&D continue to develop independently. What made India's entry glitch free into MTCR is the respect which India has because of its own spectrum of technical capability. Having capabilities on our own than cheap knock offs makes us a very valuable partner in the region. r-e-s-t-e-c-p-a. This gets us more favorable outcomes at all levels.
Being socially acceptable is good but being socially invited is more than good. When India "develops " to be able to deliver to certain challenges we become more socially "responsible"...acceptance will follow. Thats how it should work.
pakistan will remain the biggest failure of its policies for the coming many decades.pakistan making itself relevant with India using nukes will not work anymore anymore.it will also put TREMENDOUS pressure on pakistan and psychologically will be an EARTHQUAKE for them !!!
India has the right deterrent environment when it comes to security and is an economy for safe investment. India is able to create a confident security environment because of the risk it took to develop "stuffs" on its own by standing up to the western pressures like NPT and other well crafted state equipments which the developed nations has put in from time to time like hurdles in a race.
I agree!!
Sorry for replying to your old question. You have raised a valid question that whether India could export Brahmos to Vietnam or not.
HCoC is nearly a dysfunctional (only for name) code which can only request you to not to expertize missile.
range is not issue with India .. if we can put a satellite on mars then we can put a warhead payload in any nation on earth..I am sure there must be some secret MIssile program(Surya) that India hides from world and we play it safe and low to keep Big Daddys(west) happy..For Increasing range, it's in our national security issue and won't be compromised at all.
India got MTCR membership not for stalling capabilities (we increase them), we got because we don't distribute them like Prasad as China does.
For NSG membership, it's only China who's blocking India. Not anyone else.
For Your Information:
India got MTCR membership just few days after it conducted a series of teats of sophisticated missile.
That says all about our reputation.
For economic development, India has been improving very fast in HDI, per capita income, internet subscriptions, poverty alleviation and elimination of open defecation.
Though I still not say there is something to boast about India, we must try to catch up with at least second world and east European countries in terms of development.
For pakistan, I mostly ignore them now.
HCoC is nearly a dysfunctional (only for name) code which can only request you to not to expertize missile.
The only thing we will have to do will be just informing that we are testing it.
even UN is dysfunctional, but it doesn't mean its out of picture. Yeah you would need some diplomatic play around to fool it, but its what you would need for sure, given Italy is there in it .
Yes you added a valid point that now we can officialy obtain crucial tech from friendly russia or any other india friendly MTCR nation which before was not possible.. and Yes no one will sell tech easily .. but ya one thing is for sure We wont face any sanctions from cunning US
When you learn how to make something you are also gaining the knowledge to defend against it
I meant he Lag between the attack and defence. you can see it today ,our missile attack is good but defence shields are in its infancy.we dnt have to import any attack missiles but we rely heavily on imported defence shield. IF we want an edge over world then while developing HYpersonic missiles we have to overcome this lag.
Almost three layers of bmd are complete I don't think there is a lag. PDV will be last big test
HCoC is far more pathetic and useless. That's what I'm saying.
