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Tories to 'slash UK's £280m India aid by HALF' amid claims the country is too rich to receive handouts

The International Development Secretary will this week unveil plans to slash Britain's controversial £280"‰million-a-year aid budget to India.

Justine Greening will outline how the payments could be reduced amid claims the country is too rich to need handouts.

Sources suggest that Miss Greening may cut the subsidies by up to half.

The move comes amid mounting criticism that Britain's overseas aid programme – which is set to reach more than £12"‰billion by 2014 – cannot be justified at a time of spending cuts back home.

However, The Mail on Sunday understands that Ms Greening will merely divert money sent to India to poorer countries – not cut the overall aid budget.

Britain sends about £280"‰million a year to India even though the country has its own space programme and its leaders claim it does not need the cash from the UK.

The rapidly industrialising country, whose economy is ranked tenth in the world on one measure, recently earmarked £52"‰million to send a probe to Mars.

Last February, India's then finance minister Pranab Mukherjee – now the country's president – embarrassed UK aid chiefs by saying the payments were 'a peanut in our total development expenditure'.

The Mail on Sunday has also revealed how the UK spent tens of millions of pounds on an army of consultants to tell India how to spend the cash.

The Department for International Development has defended the subsidies, saying India is still home to a third of the world's poor who survive on less than 80p a day.

Ms Greening, a former accountant who only took on the international aid brief only two months ago, revealed last month that she was in talks with India over turning off the aid tap.

She told last month's Tory conference: 'We should recognise that as countries get richer, we need to be responsible about how we transition in our relationship with them from aid to trade.

'Those are the discussions that I am having with the Indian government at the moment.'

Ms Greening also promised a 'new approach' to ensure every pound of British aid spent around the world had the 'biggest impact'.

Although she has backed David Cameron's controversial pledge to increase UK overseas aid to 0.7 per cent of the nation's GDP, the former Transport Minister was portrayed as sceptical of the initiative when she was appointed International Development Secretary last month.

According to one account, she greeted the job offer by saying: 'I did not bloody well come into politics to distribute money to people in poor countries!' Officials have denied this.

But pressure has been mounting on the Prime Minister to accept the aid pledge is unsustainable when spending on schools and hospitals is being squeezed at home.

Last month, it was disclosed that the programme was rising so fast it would hit £12.6"‰billion a year in 2014 – outstripping the £12.1"‰billion spent on police forces.

Senior Tory peer Lord Ashcroft has urged Mr Cameron to turn off the 'golden tap' on foreign aid, warning that it bankrolls corrupt dictators.

Lord Ashcroft, who has been made an adviser by the Prime Minister, said the Government should stop 'spraying around' taxpayers' money in the developing world.

Only last week, former UN chief Kofi Annan backed calls for Britain to stop giving aid to wealthy countries and target it instead at 'weaker' parts of the world.

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It is most likely that US dollars coming to Pakistan as payment to let the NATO supplies thru would be cut to zero, starting from 2014. This amount of $2 Billion would create a big hole in Pakistani budget. Now they would have to think of something else to twist west's arm to get the money.

If US cuts, so would UK and other countries.

Hence finance future of Pakistan is bleak.

There is only one thing left for Pakistan to manipulate the West. That is begin nuclear blackmail. Make an effort to sell nuclear bomb making technology to Turkey and Saudi Arabia. That would surely bring US to plead with Pakistan to refrain. Their money would come next.
 
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It is most likely that US dollars coming to Pakistan as payment to let the NATO supplies thru would be cut to zero, starting from 2014. This amount of $2 Billion would create a big hole in Pakistani budget. Now they would have to think of something else to twist west's arm to get the money.

If US cuts, so would UK and other countries.

Hence finance future of Pakistan is bleak.

There is only one thing left for Pakistan to manipulate the West. That is begin nuclear blackmail. Make an effort to sell nuclear bomb making technology to Turkey and Saudi Arabia. That would surely bring US to plead with Pakistan to refrain. Their money would come next.
Does Pakistan have nuclear technology that is marketable? Chinese warheads and 60 year old SCUDS are
Two rejects together pretending to be a nuclear weapon .Market demand for kilotons nukes may not be hot.
 

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It is most likely that US dollars coming to Pakistan as payment to let the NATO supplies thru would be cut to zero, starting from 2014. This amount of $2 Billion would create a big hole in Pakistani budget. Now they would have to think of something else to twist west's arm to get the money.

If US cuts, so would UK and other countries.

Hence finance future of Pakistan is bleak.

There is only one thing left for Pakistan to manipulate the West. That is begin nuclear blackmail. Make an effort to sell nuclear bomb making technology to Turkey and Saudi Arabia. That would surely bring US to plead with Pakistan to refrain. Their money would come next.
you forgot big brother china :china:
 

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Looks like we need a few more ministers to ridicule them before they stop this farce. We should offer to annexe the UK to save them from financial collapse.
 

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Stop the AID altogether, why half it. Well on second thought they probably want to continue to spend on our space and military programs.:rofl:
 

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Reading the comments one feels that the British are the most gullible people on the planet. Do they sincerely believe that their government provides this paltry sum as 'AID' out of goodness of their heart? I mean we are talking of a country that takes immense pride in auctioning off the artifacts it looted for 200 years.

One does not have to look beyond Kudankulam to see what the NGO's that receive majority of the AID are up to.

And why the ---- are they so pissed at our space program. They can shove their aid up their asses, the space program ain't going nowhere.
 

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I say take that aid and use it to advertise Incredible India ads all over London. That'll be that. They'd not bother us with aid anymore.
 

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SAD :(

economy is already in trimbles

i dnt find any reason if all the aid is stopped.they will go for a bailout very soon from IMF
 

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It is a well documented fact that India has REJECTED aid from Britian on numerous occassions. It's the Government here that insists on shoving it at them. India is a self sufficient nation well on its way to be becoming a world Superpower. Perhaps they should put aside an aid budget for the UK, we need it with all the scroungers we have here.
- Say It How It Is, Payingtoomuchtax'ville, 4/11/2012 17:06


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What will it take to get British politicians to understand India is a wealthy country! They don't NEED our (my taxpayer funded!) aid? Why do politicians insist on spraying (our) taxpayer-funded money abroad on wasted, profligate schemes? We have hospitals, roads and people needing it here. We have a military desperately in need of fighters and carriers (India is buying a lovely new carrier from the Russians). What is it about politicians giving away OPM (other peoples' money!)? It's my money! Lay off!
- Howlr, Portsmouth, United Kingdom, 4/11/2012 16:48


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Aid money to India = ZERO, Aid money to China = ZERO, Money to EU = ZERO. All these saving means better defences, better NHS, better policing, money to help small busnesses = better economy in Britain.
- janey, Lancaster, 4/11/2012 16:32


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About time! India is rich. The reason they have grinding poverty is that their upper classes are like ours; too greedy. They live like moguls, avoiding tax payments, whilst some of their countrymen starve.
- Malcolm, Midlands, United Kingdom, 4/11/2012 15:44


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How a Country spends it's money is up to it's Government, so if India spends on a Space Program, and not on population control, or upgrading slums, then let it be so. Maybe our aid is conscience money, for all the toxins, poisons and waste recycling we send them ? I did hear that India finds our aid, embarrassing, if so we should not send it. However, the UK Defence and Arms industry, hoping for contracts from India many have some thing to do with it !
- gblood, Sheffield, United Kingdom, 4/11/2012 15:29


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It was not long ago that India gave a multi billion pound order for jets to.....wait for it....yes France. That's how much contempt India has for Britain. And that Mitchell idiot gave 16m of our cash to his pal in Africa. All aid should stop until we are firmly on our feet again,and even then controlled very carefully. Will it happen, not with these muppets in charge.
- Marty, Mansfield-Notts, United Kingdom, 4/11/2012 15:20


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Double it. We need more space exploration!
- Harken, Andover, 4/11/2012 13:00


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was in India recently and was amazed how even the tuk tuk drivers had mobile phones
- susan kirby, maroochydore, Australia, 4/11/2012 12:57


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So typically British, likes the upper hand, likes to play holier than thou, so quite happy to pay a rich country aid as it makes them feel good. No wonder the place is in an utter state, from top to bottom they live outside thier means just to impress others.
- Mary, Mars, 4/11/2012 9:04


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Ref: Comments about India being able to afford their own space program don't need more aid. I agree, as I was going to say the same thing. I'd rather see money used to help those poor souls in the USA who've lost their homes as a result of Hurricane Sandy. Chances are they'd be more appreciative anyway, and there's a high chance of it going to the people who need it, not in the pockets of a corrupt, tin-pot dictator. - Sarah UKIP supporter , SW Scotland, 04/11/2012 15:12=======================I sincerely hope you are not quoting official UKIP policy in suggesting we send money to the USA. You can only be joking. They have people there who have so much money that make our own rich look like paupers. Please confirm whether or not UKIP would do such a stupid thing instead of helping OUR OWN.
- Joy, London, 4/11/2012 20:57


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i have to be honest here with you guys IN uk. you arent even an ally or nation of any significance for india and all this noice you make here isnt even NOTICED. LoL Actually india is all set to downgrade the diplomatic importance of uk even below brazil and south africa. that is cameron wouldnt even get a presidential special treatment that is offered to even pakistani president, wake up to new world guys :) We dont even need you and you need us more so..lol there is absolutly nothing britian can offer us..we invest in britian not the other way around..lol look around and see the bigger picture..
- amigo, london, 4/11/2012 19:23


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lol brits are making too much noise...lol UK is not even in indias radar anymore and you are not even noticed :p you just an ok middle power punching above your weight in world stage and soon should be kicked out of un security council....and LOl @ senting money to american cousins!!! ask them who is thier priority now, is it india or uk. im sure you will get a shocking answer and for that matter even aussies cousins have moved on :p India have space technology cos we can sell it and make money out of it, india already launches satelites for countries like france, who is a much important ally for india. Indians are sick of insulting behaviour from british and these comments appear in paper like this..if you wana stop it just stop. who cares in india?
- amigo, london, 4/11/2012 19:16


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Bribe ? How does this "aid" transformed into bribe?

DFID or department for International development was one of the most transparent aid programme which has helped many people in rural India.

Completed projects like sanitation schemes of rural, funds for elementary school under sarvashikha abhuyav-2 ,MP,UP,Orissa health support schemes, supporting programmes for urban development in bihar, Mahila Samakhya scheme funds, water governavce schemes for many schemes, MP power sector reform schemes, SME -small and medium enterprise fundings, HIV supports, renewable energy schemes and hundred more are brushed all under one tag of "bribe" ...who gets bribe? PM, local governments? self help groups? local administrators? local ppl? .. sounded like aid was a curse.. Yup forgot, we the Indians are an unthankful bunch.
 

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@SpArK let me remind you that when the Typhoon was rejected, the Brits more or less said that their "aid" didn't get them the desired result. Sophisticated bribery.
 
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@SpArK let me remind you that when the Typhoon was rejected, the Brits more or less said that their "aid" didn't get them the desired result. Sophisticated bribery.
I dont believe the newspaper commentators are the policy makers or have any knowledge over how the aid works.

Here is a link : DFID - Project Search
 
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Why don't they keep all their Aid(s) to themselves. We don't want to feel guilty when the Empire's economy tanks decisively.
We'll do well even without their Aid.
 

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SAD :(

economy is already in trimbles

i dnt find any reason if all the aid is stopped.they will go for a bailout very soon from IMF
BTW according to Mubashar Lucman of ARY NEWS ,who is in ammerika to cover election has given lot of good news about pakistan






1) Who ever wins committed to bang pakistan more

2) Pakistan lobby doing nothing to lure both candidate where as indian lobby generating million $$ for both candidate election.

3) Both candidate committed for economic sanctions against pakistan result in PKR shots up beyond 100/$

last but not the least

pakistan is the only country in the world who did not re-pay IMF loan and its interest properly



:taunt::taunt::taunt::taunt:
 

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Thanks for bothering to post comments here. I find the continuous whinging and lackadaisical writing beyond contempt.

Another article had a comment which struck a chord with reality

Some people are laughing and making jokes about this?

It Pretty much sums up the spoiled, self entitled, heartless, intolerant first world majority.

Everyday I lose a little more faith in humanity.
They will soon be begging for aid from overseas. Only we can be smart to prevent another colonization!!
 

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