India becomes “frontline” state in US war plans against China

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Author is a commie propaganda 50cent bot. Article not worthy of any serious discussion.


I would prefer to be an military and economic superpower. That cultural superpower bullshit is very convenient excuse to be weak and poor no thank you.

And yes our ancestors are rolling in graves because we can't take bake POK from Pakistan and axai chin from china .
Amd how are we becoming military superpower? By giving BJ to uS ?
 

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No other naton as powerful as big 5 have this type of agreement with Anyother big 5 power.
What big 5????
England is a pup to USA . Their nukes are operated by USA even.
France is nuetral to everything these days .
It's army is too small to be categorized as big power.
Russia is an economic midget with big weapons. I'm not sure if Russia could even afford to provide ammunition to all the weapons that it posses.
 

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What big 5????
England is a pup to USA . Their nukes are operated by USA even.
France is nuetral to everything these days .
It's army is too small to be categorized as big power.
Russia is an economic midget with big weapons. I'm not sure if Russia could even afford to provide ammunition to all the weapons that it posses.
And India is a dirt poor country with more poors than sub saharan Africa. Where 60%+ people shit in streets.

Stereotyping hurts, isn't it ? All those nations you just moked have GDP larger than economy of 1.3 billion people. And we are not going to discuss Per capita here. And most of these countries have Large military with Nukes far more bigger than us.
 

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And India is a dirt poor country with more poors than sub saharan Africa. Where 60%+ people shit in streets.

Stereotyping hurts, isn't it ? All those nations you just moked have GDP larger than economy of 1.3 billion people. And we are not going to discuss Per capita here. And most of these countries have Large military with Nukes far more bigger than us.
Everything I typed was FACT not stereotypes. What you just blurted out is stereotyping. My native district in MP just went open defecation free in a matter of 1-2 year. It's more about people's habit than being poor.

All 3 countries have GDP far smaller to India at PPP . Yes percapita in India in much lower but so is the cost of living .

Comparing economies on nominal scale in a third currency is absurd if not outright stupid.

You might want to check military states before putting up such nonsense.
 

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And India is a dirt poor country with more poors than sub saharan Africa. Where 60%+ people shit in streets.

Stereotyping hurts, isn't it ? All those nations you just moked have GDP larger than economy of 1.3 billion people. And we are not going to discuss Per capita here. And most of these countries have Large military with Nukes far more bigger than us.
What most of these countries leaving russia all are weaker than India
 

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And India is a dirt poor country with more poors than sub saharan Africa.
Not really, issue is with documentation of population & basic HD indicators where Africa is nowhere near.
Where 60%+ people shit in streets.
Less than 35%!
Still not a good percentage either but India has reduced by 70% in 2 years. We will end it too.
Stereotyping hurts, isn't it ? All those nations you just moked have GDP larger than economy of 1.3 billion people.
Not for very long.
India will surpass everyone except US & China in 7-8 years.
And we are not going to discuss Per capita here.
Then, you will.
India has one of highest per capita income growth rates in world.
And most of these countries have Large military with Nukes far more bigger than us.
Not exactly!
Besides US, Russia & PRC, all of them are nowhere near in conventional strength in numbers. Nuclear, the testing issue. Otherwise India has enough material for a thousand warheads.
Laser, Ionic beams, overseas military bases, space probes, EM Weapon or Cyborg, India has surpassed many by a huge gap and adds around 50,000 Intellectual Properties every year.


For statistical & logical analysis instead of stereotyping, have fun on my threads for details.
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This is a part of their choreography. After all, if we are to keep up the image of being hostile, we need to cook up issues to fight over. Even they are playing to the gallery, (they need to show Pakistan that they are on their side).

If we appear too pro-China then the US will intensify their covert war against us (stone pelting, JNU drama, etc), if we appear too pro-US then China will intensify their transgressions. Even we need to keep up the drama of being offended to keep the US under the belief that India is having issues with China.

In reality, we have no strategic issues with China. CPEC is also a minor tactical issue.

We already lack a straightforward access to Central Asia. So, currently we are paying tributes to the US to pressure Pakistan to *allow* India to access Central Asia (in exchange for our assistance to the US in Afghanistan, through Northern Alliance). So, we were already bribing another power for our access to Central Asia. If CPEC becomes operational, instead of bribing the US, we will have to bribe China for safe passage. But in this case, the US loses all foothold it has in this region right from Central Asia, Afghanistan to the warm waters of Arabian Sea, if China gets to establish itself in the region.

'Experts' are suggesting that we will be encircled by China and they will send tanks to our western borders through CPEC. This is not viable. First, we are at a dominating position in Siachen, and secondly it would take days for China to send tanks form east to west, and they will get noticed. As it is, we are encircled by a US-backed attack-dog called Pakistan. The US has nothing to lose if there is a war in Asia. China will at least have a vested interest in protecting their investments in Pakistan, so they will act as a stabilizing factor.

If India wants to step into the club of powerful nations, it has to bite the bullet and start eroding western influence from Asia on a priority basis, instead of allowing the west to coach us into starting new domestic conflicts with our neighbors over relatively petty issues. (China shielding Masood Azar is much smaller issue than US giving 3 billion dollars to Pakistan every year)

As for Arunachal, it is non negotiable. We can have an alternate non-aggression treaty with China, "we will not interfere when you capture Taiwan, in exchange, you will not interfere when we pursue Cold Start in Pakistan". If China loves Pakistan more than Taiwan is for them to decide.
Not so. China is a hegemonic power. Their strategic vision has no place for a strong India - a rival in Asia.

No one is saying trust the US, we need to use them. However, China is and will remain our major threat.

And India is a dirt poor country with more poors than sub saharan Africa. Where 60%+ people shit in streets.

Stereotyping hurts, isn't it ? All those nations you just moked have GDP larger than economy of 1.3 billion people. And we are not going to discuss Per capita here. And most of these countries have Large military with Nukes far more bigger than us.
Why are you butt-hurt over someone running down these nations?
 

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Not so. China is a hegemonic power. Their strategic vision has no place for a strong India - a rival in Asia.

No one is saying trust the US, we need to use them. However, China is and will remain our major threat.



Why are you butt-hurt over someone running down these nations?
China will keep India like a frog in the boiling pot. They don't want us dead. They just want us to be on our toes to make sure we don't take any resolute strategic actions.

You can simply say, we need to give them a bloody nose for their 1962 misadventure, take back Aksai Chin and reach a border settlement along Tibet, and our issues are sorted out. What other issues do we have with China?

The more friendly you are (or pretend to be) with China, the more the US will take you seriously. If the US knows that you ALREADY severed your relations with China, they know you are all alone and they have you in a corner, and dictate their terms on us. India and China has joint anti-terror ops training every year. Imagine the shivers it sends down the spine of the Hindu-phobes in Pentagon. The fact that, in principle, India and China are not averse to working together on issues of common strategic interest is scary to the west.

Let the US commit their own soldiers to die, if they are so convinced that China is so evil. Why should India be so eager to meddle in SCS? US-China annual trade is 700B $, which is more than 10X our military budget. Why doesn't the US stop their trade with China, if they is so evil? They want India to become their attack dog and ruin our trade and relations with China while the US merrily trades with them. We don't take sides in international conflicts, we maintain an ambivalent position and squeeze both sides for our benefit, like we did during the Cold War.

For 70 years, Pakistan has been bleeding us, but still India is shy to even label Pakistan as an "enemy state" (we have given them MFN status), but we are suddenly so eager to label China as an enemy state after the US propaganda department started peddling that theory to Indian youngsters. The US doesn't want India to invade and fracture Pakistan so their propaganda moles in Indian media tell us that "a stable and prosperous Pakistan is good for India", so Indian youths parrot that. They tell us "China is evil" so we parrot that.
 
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Laser, Ionic beams, overseas military bases, space probes, EM Weapon or Cyborg, India has surpassed many by a huge gap and adds around 50,000 Intellectual Properties every year.


For statistical & logical analysis instead of stereotyping, have fun on my threads for details.
We have the fields you never heard off!
i am sure India would be the first country to have Phaser weapons :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::):india:
 

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i am sure India would be the first country to have Phaser weapons :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::):india:
Phaser?
No way, India was able to make world's first Thorium reactor though.

We may have some success in sub & sub sub atomic particles like neutrinos too. Our INO has 4 times bigger detector magnet than CERN, largest in world.
 

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Phaser?
No way, India was able to make world's first Thorium reactor though.

We may have some success in sub & sub sub atomic particles like neutrinos too. Our INO has 4 times bigger detector magnet than CERN, largest in world.
Heck even Higgs boson particle was named after Indian scientist Satyendra Nath Bose why dont you Think India wont be able to get or Invent a Phaser Weapon
 

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Everything I typed was FACT not stereotypes. What you just blurted out is stereotyping. My native district in MP just went open defecation free in a matter of 1-2 year. It's more about people's habit than being poor.

All 3 countries have GDP far smaller to India at PPP . Yes percapita in India in much lower but so is the cost of living .

Comparing economies on nominal scale in a third currency is absurd if not outright stupid.

You might want to check military states before putting up such nonsense.
Achieving a status of open defecation free is not an achievement but rather an embarrassment as it only goes on to show how backward we are.India's challenges are primarily very 19th and 20th century,the kinds which much of the world has already solved.

Why do you and fellas here stick to GDP PPP ? it's importance is limited to GK and current affair books,nothing more.

Pakistan has a PPP GDP bigger than Netherlands but the former is a near failed state with socio economic conditions in disaary where are the later is a heaven on earth.

The cost of living is low simply because India is a dirt poor country with an extremely low standards of living.
As the living standards improves,the cost of living would rise.

As for military,India is still an import dependent country,that rests the case.
 

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Achieving a status of open defecation free is not an achievement but rather an embarrassment as it only goes on to show how backward we are.
Late is better than doing it never, we reduced by 70% in 3 years, we'll end it too.

Not having it will be less embarrassing IMO instead of hiding.

This mentality of hiding faces & being scared of commies for "paying high price" has enough ruined economy & strategic appetite.
India's challenges are primarily very 19th and 20th century,the kinds which much of the world has already solved.
World has solved? Not really.
Why do you and fellas here stick to GDP PPP ? it's importance is limited to GK and current affair books,nothing more.
PPP's importance stands for measuring actual living standards and nominal for actual financial power in international relations. Both are different things and you always emphasize first one, so let's talk on track.
The cost of living is low simply because India is a dirt poor country
No, production capability has a great role here.
Many African countries have higher cost of living even being per capita income in 3 digits.
Actual reason is India's attempt for doing something. Now, labour was cheap, so prices came down.
You can find Bikes Cheaper in India than CAR because CAR doesn't produce bikes.

India managed to be less miserable because India chose to be so.
with an extremely low standards of living.
Far up from being called extremely low.
HDI ranks 130, going up 5-6 ranks every year and "second world countries" with high developed category start from 105th.
As the living standards improves,the cost of living would rise.
Little to do with it. More on currency appreciation.
For what, India will have to be able to realize it's full inflationary potential. Means having nominal growth way faster than PPP growth.
As for military,India is still an import dependent country,that rests the case.
Not really, India has halved the share of foreign military equipment in 2 years and increased defence exports by 6 folds at same time.
 

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Achieving a status of open defecation free is not an achievement but rather an embarrassment as it only goes on to show how backward we are.
Wow the backward bogey again. Like I typed before it's a habitual matter more than economical one. Habits take longer time to change .

Why do you and fellas here stick to GDP PPP ? it's importance is limited to GK and current aff
Well so is GDP nominal. Why don't we drop GDP all together then as a reference parameter. Then we have left nothing further to discuss about economies.

The cost of living is low simply because India is a dirt poor country with an extremely low standards of living.
As the living standards improves,the cost of living would rise.
Cost of living will remain low as India has abundant resources and domestic industry with adequate labour supply.
Even in highly skilled sectors where only expensive professionals participate India out competes the west .

As for military,India is still an import dependent country,that rests the case.
Except for US and Russia every other nation is . UK doesn't even operate it's nukes forget building them shouldn't that rest the case.

You need to dig deeper to propel your pessimistic propaganda.
 

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