IMF agrees to give Pakistan $5 billion loan

[Alpha1]

Pakistan will not compromise on defense. no matter what. that''s why they are begging 11 B$$ to fund their army and develop NASR futher:taunt1::taunt1:

Pakistan armed forces bugdet is unaffected!
Besides the budget doesn't go into the pockets like in the case of Indian armed forces

 

[Blackwater]

Who told you 50 balamce for 100rs?
Besides it is still very very cheap!

geo news , ohhh sorry jew news

ary news too

 

[Blackwater]

Pakistan armed forces bugdet is unaffected!
Besides the budget doesn't go into the pockets like in the case of Indian armed forces

there is reason for that.

unlike India there is no tender system in pak. babus has no value in pak, .

In pak, order is placed by army, money is paid by army (AID money)offcourse. Govt and babus has no say in army business

 

[Alpha1]

geo news , ohhh sorry jew news
ary news too

i think that depends. There is a loan system in some networks!

 

[Blackwater]

i think that depends. There is a loan system in some networks!

care to explain?? i think if u recharge rupess how much talk time u get??? vertell??

 

[Alpha1]

there is reason for that.

unlike India there is no tender system in pak. babus has no value in pak, .

In pak, order is placed by army, money is paid by army (AID money)offcourse. Govt and babus has no say in army business

Even major part of the CSF goes to the civilian budget!
Pakistan armed forces have nominal funds as compared to needs
do you know how much tax industries of Army pay?

 

[Alpha1]

care to explain?? i think if u recharge rupess how much talk time u get??? vertell??

when the balance is finished you can ask for let say 20rs loan!
When you recharge you will get 50 instead of the normal 75rs . 20rs+tax will be deducted before hand!

 

[Alpha1]

T_co you still think i am not a pakistani

 

[Blackwater]

Even major part of the CSF goes to the civilian budget!
Pakistan armed forces have nominal funds as compared to needs
do you know how much tax industries of Army pay?

all hoax. we all know,army budget control by army not finance ministry... pls move on

 

[Blackwater]

T_co you still think i am not a pakistani

he is right ,you were Indian:taunt1::taunt1:

 

[thakur_ritesh]

@Decklander

The IMF is nothing more than a negotiating and an influential tool at the hands of the west. These chaps will do as told by their stake holders, and the stakes largely rest with the west, with the US in the lead with over 16% share holding, and Britain, Germany, France, Australia and a few more from Europe together making it well over 50%.

The IMF was not even ready to negotiate when the PPP government was there and Hillary was the Sect of State, but with the PML-N in Pakistan and John Kerry as the Sect of State, the deal happened over night. We can be absolutely certain the deal didn't just go through based on some sound economics that the PML-N will bring to table, but was a part of larger give and take in Afghanistan with thorough KSA backing. For one, the so called "peace pipeline", that was to origin from Iran, has come to a halt, also the US has just recently issued a statement that the first right to buy of mil equipment from Afghanistan will rest with Pakistan, says a lot on the direction this relationship is headed.

Further, this year's Pakistan's proposed budget is well over 50b usd, and they have significant commitments coming from the US, the PRC and the KSA of their financial support to this budget. Pakistan, for as long as one can remember, has allocated anywhere between 27% to 35% of its budget to defence under various heads, even under the most dire of the situations, so there is no way they will shelve that, ever!

One also needs to figure in soft loans, grants, write offs, and my sense is, if Pakistan is ready to play the US' game in Afghanistan over the next 5years without much duplicity, a significant portion of the IMF loan will be written off.

 

[farhan_9909]

@Decklander

The IMF is nothing more than a negotiating and an influential tool at the hands of the west. These chaps will do as told by their stake holders, and the stakes largely rest with the west, with the US in the lead with over 16% share holding, and Britain, Germany, France, Australia and a few more from Europe together making it well over 50%.

The IMF was not even ready to negotiate when the PPP government was there and Hillary was the Sect of State, but with the PML-N in Pakistan and John Kerry as the Sect of State, the deal happened over night. We can be absolutely certain the deal didn't just go through based on some sound economics that the PML-N will bring to table, but was a part of larger give and take in Afghanistan with thorough KSA backing. For one, the so called "peace pipeline", that was to origin from Iran, has come to a halt, also the US has just recently issued a statement that the first right to buy of mil equipment from Afghanistan will rest with Pakistan, says a lot on the direction this relationship is headed.

Further, this year's Pakistan's proposed budget is well over 50b usd, and they have significant commitments coming from the US, the PRC and the KSA of their financial support to this budget. Pakistan, for as long as one can remember, has allocated anywhere between 27% to 35% of its budget to defence under various heads, even under the most dire of the situations, so there is no way they will shelve that, ever!

One also needs to figure in soft loans, grants, write offs, and my sense is, if Pakistan is ready to play the US' game in Afghanistan over the next 5years without much duplicity, a significant portion of the IMF loan will be written off.

one of the PMLN official in a tv talk show said we might return the 7billions dollars from within our own 5 years period

While many say that pakistan will face hardtime after 2014.but i think america or the west will need pak more onwards 2014 than now.since they very well know how much the ANA is capable and how much the taliban's are.

because i doubt America will fund upto 12billions dollar for ANA every year.and without equipments ANA is a dead force

so onwards 2014 good time is ahead for pak instead of predicted bad

 

[Blackwater]

one of the PMLN official in a tv talk show said we might return the 7billions dollars from within our own 5 years period

While many say that pakistan will face hardtime after 2014.but i think america or the west will need pak more onwards 2014 than now.since they very well know how much the ANA is capable and how much the taliban's are.

because i doubt America will fund upto 12billions dollar for ANA every year.and without equipments ANA is a dead force

so onwards 2014 good time is ahead for pak instead of predicted bad

what will happen to 2015-16 indo pak war

 

[Defcon 1]

one of the PMLN official in a tv talk show said we might return the 7billions dollars from within our own 5 years period

While many say that pakistan will face hardtime after 2014.but i think america or the west will need pak more onwards 2014 than now.since they very well know how much the ANA is capable and how much the taliban's are.

because i doubt America will fund upto 12billions dollar for ANA every year.and without equipments ANA is a dead force

so onwards 2014 good time is ahead for pak instead of predicted bad

Where did you get the 12 billion dollar/annum figure for ANA?? Are you saying that annual funding required for ANA is close to three times of Pakistan's annual defence budget?

 

[dhananjay1]

The nukes still bug you a lot dont they?

Ask your fellow countrymen, they are the ones who have to eat grass.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

How effective is a defense program that survives on charity and handouts and outdated
weapons gifted??