If US block Apache attack helicopter which heavy helicopter is best for India.

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If US block Apache attack helicopter which heavy attack helicopter is best for India.

Poll closed Dec 30, 2018.
  1. MI 28 N attack helicopter is best or EuroCopter Tiger attack helicopter.

    36.4%
  2. Home grown LCH attack helicopter is sufficient or we must procure foreign heavy attack helicopter.

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  1. mayfair

    mayfair Elite Member Elite Member

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    The Indo stands for Indian ocean NOT India. Big difference.



    William Thornberry seems to be saying otherwise. Whom to believe.

    Not America's problem is it? If we have paid for the wares, then they can block the sale and neither return the money nor goods. It happened with Shitistanis in the past and others.
     
  2. WolfPack86

    WolfPack86 Senior Member Senior Member

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    PM Modi meeting US Defence Secretary Mattis in Singapore.
     
  3. rkhanna

    rkhanna Senior Member Senior Member

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    While i "appreciate" the tone of your message you seem to have missed the forest for the trees of my post.
     
  4. The Ultranationalist

    The Ultranationalist Regular Member

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    Procurement of weapons is the only thing which hasnt let own defence industry grow. Its like taking painkillers instead of curing the disease.
     
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  5. mayfair

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    Not really. I fully understand the message you are trying to convey. What I am trying to say is that by all indications Trump and US SD are not.

    Some in the American deep state are gambling on risking a long term alliance with India with a view that they can have India submit to them, wholly and completely- be it via EJ activities or the threat of economic sanctions of the above sort.
     
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  6. AmoghaVarsha

    AmoghaVarsha Senior Member Senior Member

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    Well this is why the US is never a trustworthy partner. They are a sanction happy country and think everyone should obey them.

    Thornberry's interview pretty much lays down the thinking of the US.

    Time to tell them that they can take their Drones and get lost.

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  7. rkhanna

    rkhanna Senior Member Senior Member

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    On the other hand. The United States has lost the Ukraine (and influence in Eastern Europe). They have lost the south china sea (And lowering influence in Asia - I see South Korea and Japan become more independent). They have lost clout in the ME - easily seen with Russia's push back in Syria, Cluster Fcuk with turkey and the Saudi lead war with Yemen.

    Can they really afford giving the Indo-American alliance a still born death?

    I agree with @AmoghaVarsha they can take their wares and get lost - I.e we dont need to be bullied because i am willing to bet they will bend. I don't think from a Geo-Political and Real Politic standpoint they have much of a choice.
     
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  8. mayfair

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    It's not just that. Trump sarkaar seems heel bent on alienating traditional US allies left, right and centre. The trade tariffs against Aluminium, steel, automobiles coming from Canada, Europe and Japan- the closest US allies is causing much consternation and responses are coming. If the loose cannon is not concerned about annoying long-standing US allies, I think it's safe to assume that annoying India is less of his worries.

    The only one who appears to be benefiting is China.
     
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    This whole thread is hilarious. We are debating on the basis of a presumption. While in the real world, AH64E Guardian fuselages were delivered by Tata Boeing JV months ahead of schedule. Surreal is the word.
     
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    Buy Kamov-52....if Valdimir agrees...
     
  11. WARREN SS

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    Indians they never get out myopia of British
     
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    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    There is exactly 0% chance of the US blocking such a sale to India.

    If they were so stupid to do that India wouldn’t need an immediate replacement from abroad (certainly not Russian), the LCH will be there in 100s and in the long term HAL will deliver a heavier attack helo for sure.
     
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    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Would be the best thing ever to happen to India’s aerospace industry don’t you worry.
     
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  14. abingdonboy

    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    I dare them to block such a sale to India, the last thing the US wants is to lose India as a “couter weight” to China.
     
  15. abingdonboy

    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Stop looking to foreigners to find solutions. What’s wrong with the LCH? any payload issues will be addressed with a subsequent heavier attack helicopter.

    India is not porkistan
     
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  16. HeinzGud

    HeinzGud Senior Member Senior Member

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    Exactly my thought. :hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:
     
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  17. HariPrasad-1

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    Its our policy to make less complex stuff on our own and then move to more complex stuff. We have reached up to 6 ton chopper. Our next target should be heavy chopper. However, If this is an urgent requirement, we have to buy it. So we have already ordered Apache but in case the deal fails, That can be the option. I say only that. I fully support indigenous stuff like you do.
     
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  18. Immanuel

    Immanuel Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indeed not happening, the linkages are far deeper than people understand.
     
  19. Immanuel

    Immanuel Senior Member Senior Member

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    That's because the previous gen of politicians sold the US out to exactly these countries, how does a country have trade defecits with every country they trade with? It's unsustainable on such a grand scale. These so called allies from EU, Japan, SOKO, many in the middle east still depend on the US for security and these folks play pretty funny when they want to renegotiate trade deals which usually means everybody agreeing on dropping tarrifs but EU won't budge so won't the others hence the proverbial intrusion in the ass. They won't be able to walk after another 6.5 years of Trump

    These folks in the EU should get their heads out of their asses and reneg. In most cases EU and other stand to losse far more than the US and their economies just aren't as resilient to such shocks.
     
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