Just make sure that no intellectual hears to the call of his conscience and reveals the "truth" that the tests actually fizzled out.
If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan...
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If they fizzle out better to dump nukes and those who made them in the BoB.
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if war against india vs china and pakistan started, there will be 2 scenarios: if rest of the world got involved or rest of the world stay away from war.
lets consider scene 1: rest of the world got involved
the world will be divided into two parts:
america + india + NATO= alliad force
china + pakistan + arab world= axis force ( axis of evil)
this will happen and allied force will win no doubt.
now consider scene 2: the rest of the world do not involve in this war,
india will have to face big challange. indian defence system according to general V.K. singh is terrible. china is far ahead of india. watch the video comparing india and china here and you will understand the current scenario of indian defense system:
[video=youtube_share;X1wlhy49U-w]http://youtu.be/X1wlhy49U-w[/video]
so please pray to god, if there is any, that either defense system be upgraded or world war III be waged.
lets consider scene 1: rest of the world got involved
the world will be divided into two parts:
america + india + NATO= alliad force
china + pakistan + arab world= axis force ( axis of evil)
this will happen and allied force will win no doubt.
now consider scene 2: the rest of the world do not involve in this war,
india will have to face big challange. indian defence system according to general V.K. singh is terrible. china is far ahead of india. watch the video comparing india and china here and you will understand the current scenario of indian defense system:
[video=youtube_share;X1wlhy49U-w]http://youtu.be/X1wlhy49U-w[/video]
so please pray to god, if there is any, that either defense system be upgraded or world war III be waged.
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
Perfect the art of manufacturing all existing missiles, especially Brahmos, to an art form...... with periodic upgrade as and when these become available.
Make pals with Vietnam, Filiphines, Cambodia and malaysia... with a view to set up lightning fast staging posts/bases.
Make it amply clear to taiwan, that they would be barbecued if they even think about expressing disatifcation over India's move/motive.
Pakistan should be easy... infact, many of the startegic targets therein won't even need expensive missiles... rudimentary INS types would do.... honed to perfection from now, of course !
When SHTF, send warning to local population in all cities along coastal China, tell them to head for the mountains.... no second warning... then flatten each one 'em from India, and all allied positions around the region.
Astra is the way to go, and its design, technology and production methods need to be perfected.... 7 years left, to do this !
Perfect the art of manufacturing all existing missiles, especially Brahmos, to an art form...... with periodic upgrade as and when these become available.
Make pals with Vietnam, Filiphines, Cambodia and malaysia... with a view to set up lightning fast staging posts/bases.
Make it amply clear to taiwan, that they would be barbecued if they even think about expressing disatifcation over India's move/motive.
Pakistan should be easy... infact, many of the startegic targets therein won't even need expensive missiles... rudimentary INS types would do.... honed to perfection from now, of course !
When SHTF, send warning to local population in all cities along coastal China, tell them to head for the mountains.... no second warning... then flatten each one 'em from India, and all allied positions around the region.
Astra is the way to go, and its design, technology and production methods need to be perfected.... 7 years left, to do this !
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
why 7 years do you think a war will erupt in 7 years?
malaysia is out of our league.they are with pakistan
why 7 years do you think a war will erupt in 7 years?
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are you farhaan the banned member?
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
Possible Chinese attack willbe through their navy. Pakistan became a lifeless desert.
If other countries didn't interfere, would be a mutually assured destruction.
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Possible Chinese attack willbe through their navy. Pakistan became a lifeless desert.
If other countries didn't interfere, would be a mutually assured destruction.
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
Such a scenario should not arise in the first place. Not because it is infeasible, but it would mean that the intelligence and the diplomacy lost the game already. Some great photographer once said - you are responsible for what you see.
Such a scenario should not arise in the first place. Not because it is infeasible, but it would mean that the intelligence and the diplomacy lost the game already. Some great photographer once said - you are responsible for what you see.
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
I think I will change my screen name to urschleim.
Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
Indian-Malaysian relationship is far more advanced than Pakistan-Malaysia. We have a defence pact with Malaysia, our instructors have trained their pilots. Indian naval ships routinely make port calls at Malaysian ports, and Malaysian ships at our ports. Our trade ties too with Malaysia are far stronger than Pakistan's.
It may be the free trade agreement between Malaysia-Pakistan throwing you off. The only reason India-Malaysia don't have the same is not because of Malaysia, but due to India. Malaysia exports to India more than 3 times the amount of goods India exports to Malaysia.
How?
Indian-Malaysian relationship is far more advanced than Pakistan-Malaysia. We have a defence pact with Malaysia, our instructors have trained their pilots. Indian naval ships routinely make port calls at Malaysian ports, and Malaysian ships at our ports. Our trade ties too with Malaysia are far stronger than Pakistan's.
It may be the free trade agreement between Malaysia-Pakistan throwing you off. The only reason India-Malaysia don't have the same is not because of Malaysia, but due to India. Malaysia exports to India more than 3 times the amount of goods India exports to Malaysia.
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
This is true, even now a friend's dad (IAF) is in Malaysia. Since both forces operate Su-30s they undertake a lot of exercises/ training together. I think the poster confused Malaysia with Indonesia.
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imo malaysia is a developing into islamic extremist state.today the non muslim community is being discriminated based upon religion.
few years back when malaysia showed interest in akash sam our govt softly rejected that proposal saying our current demands are not met,but the original reason being not letting pakistan having any info about it.
afaik pakistan also did sell malaysia anza missiles,where malaysia is the only overseas buyer...
indo-malay relations are good.but i would like you to comment on these too...
imo malaysia is a developing into islamic extremist state.today the non muslim community is being discriminated based upon religion.
few years back when malaysia showed interest in akash sam our govt softly rejected that proposal saying our current demands are not met,but the original reason being not letting pakistan having any info about it.
afaik pakistan also did sell malaysia anza missiles,where malaysia is the only overseas buyer...
Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
India would certainly gain tremendously with its economic involvement in Central Asia and A-stan, which makes for fanstastic staging point.
Pak's military facility details are an open book to India, same could be true for China's as well.
Best strategy?
Nope, you can't nuke everyone on the first day, this isn't WarSim, online game !
Best bet, conventional ordnance to break all.... All their ground assets, i.e.: break their legs, with stand off/theater missile, which India has plenty of, and gleefully accurate too
As for the others, subs, fighters which 'escaped', missile launches, and everything else, no more than a waiting game !:taunt1:
Wait for them to come back to roost or peek out for a breath of fresh air....... what's so difficult :shocked:
Whether it's conventional or nuke, missile accuracy is Completely independant of its payload !
What guarantee that is gonna be 100% hit, the first time, to boot ?
Comparing US, Chinese and India military built-up sophistication the way it's done it these pages is a laugh at best.
Look, each nation have their own doctrine, and technology is but One of the many enablers...... nothing more !
As ridiculous as it may sound, I would suggest India buys up as much 'affordable'(read Cheap) airborne asset as possible and load it up with grade A electronics/controls, which India is already Very good at.:thumb: And literally locate same throughout the nation, friendly foreign location even.
Then do what Anand Vishwanath does best :cool2: .... wait for window of opportunity and leave the hornets nest !:taunt1:
The number of folks heading that way are no larger than half a dozen natural born Indians shouting " Pakistan zindabad" in the middle of Delhi - endangered specie.
India would certainly gain tremendously with its economic involvement in Central Asia and A-stan, which makes for fanstastic staging point.
Pak's military facility details are an open book to India, same could be true for China's as well.
Best strategy?
Nope, you can't nuke everyone on the first day, this isn't WarSim, online game !
Best bet, conventional ordnance to break all.... All their ground assets, i.e.: break their legs, with stand off/theater missile, which India has plenty of, and gleefully accurate too
As for the others, subs, fighters which 'escaped', missile launches, and everything else, no more than a waiting game !:taunt1:
Wait for them to come back to roost or peek out for a breath of fresh air....... what's so difficult :shocked:
Whether it's conventional or nuke, missile accuracy is Completely independant of its payload !
What guarantee that is gonna be 100% hit, the first time, to boot ?
Comparing US, Chinese and India military built-up sophistication the way it's done it these pages is a laugh at best.
Look, each nation have their own doctrine, and technology is but One of the many enablers...... nothing more !
As ridiculous as it may sound, I would suggest India buys up as much 'affordable'(read Cheap) airborne asset as possible and load it up with grade A electronics/controls, which India is already Very good at.:thumb: And literally locate same throughout the nation, friendly foreign location even.
Then do what Anand Vishwanath does best :cool2: .... wait for window of opportunity and leave the hornets nest !:taunt1:
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Re: If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan
Splinter groups with all kinds of crazy ideology support exist everywhere, and they're Not wrong either.
Collectively, India would definitely gain big with Malaysia.
Btw, With US in Indian camp, Russia has 'no choice' but to join China..... political ego/national pride 'see ! :cool2:
Isn't this about war scenario in 2020?
Splinter groups with all kinds of crazy ideology support exist everywhere, and they're Not wrong either.
Collectively, India would definitely gain big with Malaysia.
Btw, With US in Indian camp, Russia has 'no choice' but to join China..... political ego/national pride 'see ! :cool2:
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i don't think mother russia will join bully china.as on today we have a good relation with russia based on mutual trust better than russia china relation an economically driven one.
as on today malaysia has little to offer to india "militarily" but as its a dominant raising geopolitical power similar to india relations with it should never be sidelined.
what are the splinter groups you were referring to??
i don't think mother russia will join bully china.as on today we have a good relation with russia based on mutual trust better than russia china relation an economically driven one.
as on today malaysia has little to offer to india "militarily" but as its a dominant raising geopolitical power similar to india relations with it should never be sidelined.
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Don't think one would gain much by reasoning with them.
Malaysia may not have a menacing stance, but she's very much looked up to on many fronts and by many nations, mainly muslim-majority types.
So, Malaysia could have the mellowing effect of a mature oak barrel !:cool2:
How Russia-India might drift apart is difficult to model, but, how likely is a coalition with US in the same camp.
Remember, both came together, barely, when the credits were about to roll, during WWII, and things weren't exactly pretty.
US being 'nice' to India isn't because she's Miss Goody 2 shoes, only because, US stands to lose big otherwise.... but you know that already !:thumb:
Mainly pro-everything by association/ummah lobby groups, where human values/common sense rationale is, at best dicey.
Don't think one would gain much by reasoning with them.
Malaysia may not have a menacing stance, but she's very much looked up to on many fronts and by many nations, mainly muslim-majority types.
So, Malaysia could have the mellowing effect of a mature oak barrel !:cool2:
How Russia-India might drift apart is difficult to model, but, how likely is a coalition with US in the same camp.
Remember, both came together, barely, when the credits were about to roll, during WWII, and things weren't exactly pretty.
US being 'nice' to India isn't because she's Miss Goody 2 shoes, only because, US stands to lose big otherwise.... but you know that already !:thumb:
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