If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan...

[MMuthu]

China will not wage a full scale war with India atleast for the next 25 years, because if they do that, they should forget annexing Taiwan and surpassing USA and becoming a real super power.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

when China can do something against tiny Taiwan then people will believe Chinese capability until then it is all hot air.

 

[MMuthu]

the frozen winter in Russia made many Germany soldiers lost their foots ,because Germany factories could not provided enough winter shoes

I hope that this has not degraded the German chance of winning significantly by 5% or 10%

 

[badguy2000]

Just a reminder China is not USA and never will be so try to answer things without this delusion. The defense pact with USA will give India an access to US assembly lines.

Kindly remind you to study the global manufacturing more,before you draw conclusion.

most of USA's GDP today is "service section" like banks,hotels,and bars while casinos and hotels can not be helpful to wars.

China now is the biggest industry producer,if you take those useless section away,such as "casino,banks ,lawyer and bars" .

I am glad to discuss the relation between "war and economy" in a new thread.

I don't want to ruin the thread.

 

[hit&run]

Pak
1) Pakistan will not use nukes till its nuke threshold has passed. Just to thrust into North India it cannot and will no use nukes.

i said may use, However if pakistan can plan to nuke india during kargil if india was to cross LOC then i belive Pakistan threshold is very weak . secondly india's would be cold start doctrine will further make that threshold sensitive when india will try to occupy maximum territory in sudden/rapid attack. so nuclear shield is going to the cornerstone of india's response to that attack.

2) In an all out war, there will be no infiltration. There will be a major thrust from either side.

I wont expect pakistan will place heavy attack forces in LOC. Pak may force into rajori punch pathankot jammu punjab regions to cut off already present indian forces in J&K thus will engage them in low level war.

3) India has complete dominance of the sea. We will blockade Pakistan.

Pakistan wont mind indian blockade for one or two months if you expect china is confronting in indian ocean with IN navy. They will rather wait for indian offence into their littoral waters and will try to protect(insulate) their shores or may attack IN navy with sudden short stealthy attacks( may engage IN navy in deep water with attack subs).
Rather fighting in pakistan's littoral water when they are in defencive mode Indian land bases anti warship cruise batteries based in gujrat maharashtra will be very cheap and effective against pakistan Navy's build up protecting its shores and may force them to come out in deep waters for IN navy's dinner.

China
1) It cannot. Maintaining supply line is the biggest challenge. They stopped the 62 war because they were stretched.

I was talking about AP Burma Arc i think china will involve or roll over Burma to attack india with ground forces. i assume maintaining supplies are comparatively easy to maintain through burma. Please don't forget that the scenario is that india is tackling Pak and china both and that kind of war will involve almost all subcontinent nations for sure(pan sub continent). china wont repeat 1965 which was a non decisive war and will you expect china to attack india from that vacuum. Also as i have mentioned the chines aim would be to capture north east territories (will avoid stretching into Planes of Ganges) which are not that distant from chines territories to make india surrender .

2) They don't have the capacity to come to West Bengal. Indian Air Force is more stronger than Chinese though they have numbers.

That's a very poor underestimation of an enemy in this given situation. Rather i would like to see Indian army marching through Burma into at china Burma borders to block them there but not to stretch again in main land china, before PLA decide to roll over the same.

3) We have their number in the Malaccas.

That's encouraging; china is dependent on supplies in bulk. supplies/oil deprived china will exhaust soon. but India should plug all possible small supply pockets in Indian ocean and south china sea.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Chinese GDP IS 1/5 OF US GDP, China is a developing country it is not USA, Europe or paradise.

 

[p2prada]

the frozen winter in Russia made many Germany soldiers lost their foots ,because Germany factories could not provided enough winter shoes

The German industry no longer had the raw materials to satisfy them. Their factories had become empty in the end and they started recruiting children to fight because of depleted manpower. US, owing to their large landmass, had significant amount of resources available to fight on both fronts.

The Soviet industry was as large as the American. The Soviets had 4 million troops on their borders by the end of the war. No small feat.

Any modern war will not last that long because of the Human cost involved. This is the information age and not the pre-historic age from Hitler's era. Media will play a vital role. If there is any kind of war between India and China, the whole world will play the Chinese as the bad guys. That will be detrimental to your overall "prestige."

 

[badguy2000]

So whats the point? Indo China war is not going to last 6 years. Enough damage can be done in 6 days for both sides to declare a ceasefire.

well,

in 1914,all countries ,including UK,France,Germany,Russia,Aus-Hun and Italy ,thought the WW I would be finished in severa weeks.

 

[natarajan]

going war with china is like commiting suicide and am sure if congress in power will never win but will loose a huge chunk of land like pok and akshai sin

 

[Sabir]

Friends do you certainly believe that Indo-china war will be such long drawn to make industrial production capability an important factor? If yes, Please specify how India should try to cope with it.....because it is the topic of the thread.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

well,

in 1914,all countries ,including UK,France,Germany,Russia,Aus-Hun and Italy ,thought the WW I would be finished in severa weeks.

the longer it drags out the bigger impact it will have on the chinese economy

 

[duhastmish]

lol its ffunny all this jingosistic - b.s.

people evcen thinking of we can stop china and pak togther !! lol forget about china alone. and win the war against them. we are in no situation to have war with china. if they attack us tomaroww we are gone and we all know that.
but yes in next 5-6 years we can have better relation with china and will get over issue of - region dispute.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Friends do you certainly believe that Indo-china war will be such long drawn to make industrial production capability an important factor? If yes, Please specify how India should try to cope with it.....because it is the topic of the thread.

India has defense pacts with USA and Israel, giving India access to the weaponry and assembly lines as well as a strategic alliance advantage.

 

[duhastmish]

till then our best bet is to - keep upgrading ourself - which seems almost impossible with the snail pace of our's. mrca or missile or fifth gen or navy deals or p8 dela . etc etc

 

[LETHALFORCE]

lol its ffunny all this jingosistic - b.s.

people evcen thinking of we can stop china and pak togther !! lol forget about china alone. and win the war against them. we are in no situation to have war with china. if they attack us tomaroww we are gone and we all know that.
but yes in next 5-6 years we can have better relation with china and will get over issue of - region dispute.

defeated before start of the war??

 

[MMuthu]

going war with china is like commiting suicide and am sure if congress in power will never win but will loose a huge chunk of land like pok and akshai sin

India will not go for a war with China, the probabilty is very less, What if China attacks us..... It is better to sucide yourself than living in fear..... What the Chinese are made up of? Steel? or they jumped from sky?

India is a Peace loving Nation... that does not mean that Indians cannot hit back

 

[thakur_ritesh]

every concerned on this thread,

this thread has a possibility of generating some very good discussion, where indian potential and capabilities on fighting war at 2 fronts can be discussed. what has the us, or taiwan, etc got to do with this thread. please get the focus on strategic, diplomatic, military maneuvering that will happen in such a scenario for all the 3 concerned countries. lets have some sensible analysis presented than pointless one or two lines which other than derailing the thread help in achieving nothing substantial.

thanks.

 

[duhastmish]

defeated before start of the war??

no - i would liek to awaken my nation - and tell them truth so that atleast they get to know truth and get ready to face it.
i will be more than ready to go out - if it will come to that - and shoot a few bugger or two.
but i also know whats going on is not right!!!! and its messing up my country.

 

[hit&run]

going war with china is like commiting suicide and am sure if congress in power will never win but will loose a huge chunk of land like pok and akshai sin

one line answer; thats not true my friend. India is not 1962 india any more. i think you should study more about indian capabilities.
regards

 

[duhastmish]

Hit & run the truth is, ofcourse we are not 1962 india but neither is china.

never underestimate you enemy it will be last mistake of yours. give respect to your enemy only then you can fight battles with them.