IAF Wont be used against China

Can Indian Army Survive without Airpower ?

  • Yes, Indian Army can as it is not the same as it was in 1962.

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  • No, There is no hope without Airpower.

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Chinese had no airfields near the Indian border in 1962. If the war had
escalated into an air war John F. Kennedy was ready to send supplies
and arms to India. Chinese air capability even today is only
large numbers poor quality planes. Just another disaster in the long
list of Nehru disasters.
 

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From my view its is very difficult with out IAF..
 

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Chinese had no airfields near the Indian border in 1962. If the war had
escalated into an air war John F. Kennedy was ready to send supplies
and arms to India. Chinese air capability even today is only
large numbers poor quality planes. Just another disaster in the long
list of Nehru disasters.

How do you know, have you ever looked at the maps. For god sake it was a border war, and the eastern front was merely a few hundred kilometers from some major chinese cities in Yunnan and Szechan both of which had lots of airfields (thanks WWII). The northern front is close to Xinjiang where again PLAAF had many bases. Distance or terrain is therefore hardly an issue.

Regarding aircrafts, PLAAF had numerical superiority hands down, and qualitative edge as well, Mig15 was servicable, Mig17 was state-of-the-art and Mig19 could be viewed as brand new at that time, India had no answer really. Also fresh from korea war as well as air combat over taiwan strait PLAAF had decisive edge in experience as well.

As I said already, PLAAF was in a way more advanced then than it is now. It would hardly be a fair fight had India decided to use her airforce.
 
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How do you know, have you ever looked at the maps. For god sake it was a border war, and the eastern front was merely a few hundred kilometers from some major chinese cities in Yunnan and Szechan both of which had lots of airfields (thanks WWII). The northern front is close to Xinjiang where again PLAAF had many bases. Distance or terrain is therefore hardly an issue.

Regarding aircrafts, PLAAF had numerical superiority hands down, and qualitative edge as well, Mig15 was servicable, Mig17 was state-of-the-art and Mig19 could be viewed as brand new at that time, India had no answer really. Also fresh from korea war as well as air combat over taiwan strait PLAAF had decisive edge in experience as well.

As I said already, PLAAF was in a way more advanced then than it is now. It would hardly be a fair fight had India decided to use her airforce.
It would have been a more even fight instead of the sneaky backstab.

 

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I suggest you give a head around and answer the following down below..

Unless you are aware of these factors, your post is not related with the body of the thread.

Regarding aircrafts, PLAAF had numerical superiority hands down, and qualitative edge as well, Mig15 was servicable, Mig17 was state-of-the-art and Mig19 could be viewed as brand new at that time, India had no answer really. Also fresh from korea war as well as air combat over taiwan strait PLAAF had decisive edge in experience as well.

As I said already, PLAAF was in a way more advanced then than it is now. It would hardly be a fair fight had India decided to use her airforce.
Adding to Ray Sir post..

During 1962, PLAAF back in days even now lack number of dedicate Airbases to carry out operations this far into Indian Zone..

Back in days PLAAF fighters lack such range so does there engines were not design to fly at such High altitudes..

Where as Indian Air-force did not have such limitations, IAF have very quality Air-crafts back in days which were capable to defending in those heights..



Research before post..

1. Where it was ?
2. Terrain ?
3. Type of Aircraft based there ?
4. No of Airbases ?
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Don't forget to provide link with your post..
 

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well in past we did make mistake of not using our AF, now things are different, if China want to live in past, we will make sure that their future dream will be broken, even if is at our expence. I think we have enough NRIs to cover it. Pls every passing day we become strong. So no need to worry.
 
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well in past we did make mistake of not using our AF, now things are different, if China want to live in past, we will make sure that their future dream will be broken, even if is at our expence. I think we have enough NRIs to cover it. Pls every passing day we become strong. So no need to worry.
we have plenty of SAM's. 1 warplane=50 million dollars (chinese- 10 million) one SAM= $120,000
we don't need to spend a lot. Fuel supplies will always be a problem for the Chinese once the roads
are destroyed and no fuel available planes will be useless. There is one road and one rail line
to most of the supplies for the Chinese. (not placing link use GOOGLE EARTH)
 
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Sir, Akash SAM is ineffective over mountains due to lack seeker, And SA-6 are not in very large quantity given that they are mostly deployed over western sector even o if SA-6 umbrella is good but wont provide coverage in most of the Major forward post which are most vulnerable and most important, There is only one PJ-10 regiment consist of 4 units can only pack 12 at a time and there Range is just 290kms, Only good against bridges and roads tunnels and railway not Airbases..

The bottom line is IA is not ready, It can only hold if there is IAF to cover and support..
 

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LF, we can take care of bridges, with help of locals. Even their railway bridge for troups movement can be taken out.
But we have to hurt them, where they will fell the most, their economic heartland and production favilities. Hit them and they will come to table. Ofcourse nukes tests will esclate the ladder so that they know we mean business when we have to face two front war.
 
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Sir, Akash SAM is ineffective over mountains due to lack seeker, And SA-6 are not in very large quantity given that they are mostly deployed over western sector even o if SA-6 umbrella is good but wont provide coverage in most of the Major forward post which are most vulnerable and most important, There is only one PJ-10 regiment consist of 4 units can only pack 12 at a time and there Range is just 290kms, Only good against bridges and roads tunnels and railway not Airbases..

IA is totally not prepared in eastern sector, they have just started to think about that front and making plans, there is not much over ground..
cbu-105's bought from USA are rumored to be on the Eastern front (from someone who
knows) they are good against everything. Also can uses Paveway and Bunker busters.

http://samantk.com/News/Defence/lockheed-lowest-bidder-for-laser-guided-bombs-for-iaf.html
 
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LF, we can take care of bridges, with help of locals. Even their railway bridge for troups movement can be taken out.
But we have to hurt them, where they will fell the most, their economic heartland and production favilities. Hit them and they will come to table. Ofcourse nukes tests will esclate the ladder so that they know we mean business when we have to face two front war.
This is why war should have a new front open and we take back Tibet which is rightfully
ours.
 

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hope nirbhy comes ASAP and in thousands, that will give us without fear capabilities to our forces. We will target them at 1k, even 3k on air launch version on MKI.
 

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well in past we did make mistake of not using our AF, now things are different, if China want to live in past, we will make sure that their future dream will be broken, even if is at our expence. I think we have enough NRIs to cover it. Pls every passing day we become strong. So no need to worry.
The problem is it is India that has choosen to live in the past. As someone who has been dealing with people from the south continent since middle school, I can only testify about the deep-rooted self-righteousness and victim mentality of these people. Whereas east asians would often take a moment to reflect on the past and ask themselves the hard question 'did i do something wrong?', with these people its the 5 letter word never. Bragging, finger-pointing, making excuses, that's every day life for these people.
 

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This thread is again degenerating into a some idiotic mind mastubation, peace and out.
 

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This is just another psy-ops by China. As many of you have rightly claimed, they are testing the waters.
 

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The problem is it is India that has choosen to live in the past. As someone who has been dealing with people from the south continent since middle school, I can only testify about the deep-rooted self-righteousness and victim mentality of these people. Whereas east asians would often take a moment to reflect on the past and ask themselves the hard question 'did i do something wrong?', with these people its the 5 letter word never. Bragging, finger-pointing, making excuses, that's every day life for these people.
we have come long way since China war, but sadly our political leaders are like ostrich, they dont want to see the threat from China, they rather like to close their eyes and pretend that it does not exists, so much so that specific directions are given to soldiers at border, not to engage Chines, if they cross over to our side :frusty:

Any way MMS seems serious to the threat faced from China.
 

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LoL what a joke. IAF/IN and SFC everything will be thrown at China. The range of A-4 was revealed as 4k for a damn good reason. It is only and only meant for China. The army itself has enough Brahmos to break any offensive strike across border but the idea is always to target Beijing-shanghai.
 

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