I won't apologise for Pakistan terror remark: UK PM David Cameron

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First of all after 9/11 Pakistan had no choice except supporting United States after the US statement "We will throw You Back to Stone Ages"
If India had ever given a such of statement our Army AirForce and ISI are capable enough to reply them back but as far as US is concerned we have no shield against F-22 Raptor

And Why INDIA is building Schools and Roads in Afghanistan Near Pak-Afghan ??? Is INDIA is really a developed country so now India has started developing other nations like Afghanistan .. You know charity begins from home, why don't India pay attention to AIDS and POVERTY inside its own territory instead of building schools and roads in Afghanistan

And as far as the world terrorism sponsorship is concerned the problem is no one believes PAKISTAN due to its corrupt politicians who beg all the time to fill up their own tommy's

The real fact is NATO and ALLIED FORCES are losing their WAR in AFGHANISTAN and they pushed the WAR inside PAKISTAN so they can leave easily
 

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Pakistan president will 'put David Cameron straight' over terror claims

Asif Ali Zardari will demand more support at Chequers meeting and warn against using India as a platform for accusations

The row over David Cameron's claim that Pakistan is exporting terrorism threatened to escalate tonight as a senior Pakistani official revealed President Asif Ali Zardari planned to "put him straight" when he meets the prime minister at a showdown summit at Chequers on Friday.:happy_2:

"David Cameron has been doing some plain talking. Now Zardari will be doing the plain talking," the official said. "We have to tell him [Cameron] what the reality is, to educate him about what we have suffered, and that if we are not supported at this time, how things will get worse.":happy_2:

The official said Zardari would press Cameron to be "more forthright in supporting [Pakistani] democracy and more careful in what he says, especially in countries like India that are very hostile".

Cameron's comments, in which he accused Pakistan of looking "both ways" on home-grown terrorism, were made during a visit to India last week, where they were greeted approvingly. But the senior Pakistani official suggested the timing smacked of inexperience and showed how the prime minister had been "taken in" by the Indians. "Cameron was enamoured by so-called Indian democracy and attractive markets – he was suckered by the Indians."

The prime minister risked encouraging insurgents in both Pakistan and Afghanistan, the official said. But he added the Pakistani side was confident the row could be defused and there would be no lasting damage. "The president believes the dialogue must continue," he said.

Pakistan's furious reaction to the prime minister's speech in Bengalooru last Wednesday has raged unchecked despite British government attempts to play down the row. A visit to Britain by Pakistani intelligence chiefs was cancelled at the weekend as Zardari resisted intense opposition and public pressure at home to cancel his trip in protest.

Earlier today the Pakistani foreign minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, summoned Britain's high commissioner to Islamabad, Adam Thomson, reportedly to deliver a dressing-down.

"The foreign minister emphasised that terrorism was a global issue and had to be dealt with by all countries in a spirit of co-operation, rather than putting the entire onus on any one country," the Pakistani foreign ministry said in a statement. "He [Qureshi] said Pakistan was itself a victim of terrorism and its efforts against violent extremism could not be negated."

The diplomatic carpeting was apparently not enough to assuage Pakistani wrath. Information minister Qamar Zaman Kaira said Zardari would "forcefully take up" the issue when he saw Cameron.

Downing Street said Cameron would not apologise for his remarks when he met the Pakistani leader but would absolve the Pakistan government of any blame for promoting violence and extremism. "Pakistan is already, as the prime minister has acknowledged, taking action against extremism. Friday's meeting will be a good opportunity to discuss further what action is being taken [by Pakistan]," a spokeswoman for No 10 said, in words designed to lower the temperature without backing down. Cameron's spokeswoman insisted the two countries had very strong relations. Cameron sent a message of condolence to Pakistan about the flood disaster.

But the attempt to differentiate between the Pakistani authorities, including the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) which helped create the Taliban, and Taliban and foreign jihadi groups operating from Pakistani soil, seemed unlikely to placate Pakistan's leaders.

The depth and longevity of Pakistan's anger stems partly from the location chosen by Cameron to air his criticisms – at the heart of the Indian political and business establishment. India and Pakistan have fought three major wars since partition in 1947 and remain deeply at odds over divided Kashmir.

But there was also concern in Islamabad that Cameron's accusations could adversely affect Pakistan's relations with the Obama administration – and may have reflected private White House thinking.

The White House initially reacted sharply to last week's WikiLeaks war logs intelligence leaks that alleged deep-seated collusion between the ISI and Afghan insurgents fighting US and British troops. The US has provided Pakistan with more than $10bn in military and other assistance since the 9/11 attacks.

The senior Pakistani official said fears of a rift with Washington had been discounted because the Obama administration had offered no support for Cameron's remarks. "We are not worried about the Americans. Cameron was not supported by the Americans, he did not have their approval," the official said. He added that Friday's talks would cover other less controversial areas of bilateralco-operation including education and foreign investment. He said Zardari would be looking for "concrete gestures" in terms of enhanced British support for Pakistan, such as possible lobbying of the EU for favourable trade concessions for Pakistan.

The official said Pakistan would also urge Cameron to offer a more balanced appraisal of regional problems in any future speeches. This should include mention of Kashmir, where he said India maintained "the largest occupation force on earth of 500,000 troops" and committed daily human rights violations in defiance of numerous UN resolutionsEmerging today after talks in Paris with President Nicolas Sarkozy, Zardari said in brief remarks to reporters that "France feels that Pakistan is a responsible partner". French officials said Sarkozy was conciliatory in the talks, which did not touch on Cameron's comments, and that he "encouraged Pakistan to continue its efforts against terrorism".

After meeting Cameron, Zardari is expected to address a public meeting of the British-Pakistani community in Birmingham on Saturday.

The US defence secretary Robert Gates has tried to strike an emollient note, pointing out that "we walked out on Pakistan and Afghanistan in 1989 and left them basically holding the bag. And there is always the fear that we will do that again. And I believe that's the reason there's a certain hedge."
 

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How world is a victim ? what we did to the world ?

Pakistan is victim its own created terrorism ? If that so, what are Indians doing in Afghanistan specially near Pak-Afghan Border ? Why there are Indian consulates in Afghanistan ?
Check out any major terror attacKs worldwide(9/11,7/7,madrid,bali,Times squre,1993 WTC bombing,Mumbai,).It has written "Made in Islamic Republic of Pakistan" in green all over it.Its the pakistani citizens or neutralized citizens of pakistani descent who are caught all over the world as terror suspect.Do one thing just google "Humburg cell" there will be loads of material will fall over you like tons of bricks.
 

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First of all after 9/11 Pakistan had no choice except supporting United States after the US statement "We will throw You Back to Stone Ages"
If India had ever given a such of statement our Army AirForce and ISI are capable enough to reply them back but as far as US is concerned we have no shield against F-22 Raptor

And Why INDIA is building Schools and Roads in Afghanistan Near Pak-Afghan ??? Is INDIA is really a developed country so now India has started developing other nations like Afghanistan .. You know charity begins from home, why don't India pay attention to AIDS and POVERTY inside its own territory instead of building schools and roads in Afghanistan

And as far as the world terrorism sponsorship is concerned the problem is no one believes PAKISTAN due to its corrupt politicians who beg all the time to fill up their own tommy's

The real fact is NATO and ALLIED FORCES are losing their WAR in AFGHANISTAN and they pushed the WAR inside PAKISTAN so they can leave easily
If you guys behave sensibly we have enough to help you guys to modify your Taliban style militants training school schools. We are trying to help an old friend by helping poor people to go to school and Hospitals. AT least we are not creating Taliban to stop them from going to these places.
 

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the paki president zardari is a fool and is interested in getting his 10% share. the UK PM has spoken the truth and should be lauded by all Indians for this. it is indeed shameful that we couldn't act against pak after 26/11. the arrogant pak foreign minister qureshi is a buffoon at best. there can be no talks with the pakis. not today, not ever.
 

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If you guys behave sensibly we have enough to help you guys to modify your Taliban style militants training school schools. We are trying to help an old friend by helping poor people to go to school and Hospitals. AT least we are not creating Taliban to stop them from going to these places.
Why don't you educate your own Indian nation about truth of RAW sponsoring terrorism to Talibans

The last thing we ever need is your help ??? seriously ??

And as far you said 9/11 7/7 and even Mumbai Attacks are MADE IN PAKISTAN if i go for a Google search, this all a conspiracy

Every one knows now who did 9/11 7/7 attacks that is CIA and MOSSAD themselves they just wanted to create a new world order

You can make the whole world fool but we people know very well who is behind all of this
PAK ARMY is doing operation in Northern Areas and guess what they found .. Indian Weapons and Indian Sponsored People

US just created a Hype of Taliban and did 9/11 themselves in order to get an excuse to enter into Afghanistan and Iraq
Now US planning to Invade PAK and IRAN and luckily US has founded India (Pakistan's) enemy to get some help
 

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the paki president zardari is a fool and is interested in getting his 10% share. the UK PM has spoken the truth and should be lauded by all Indians for this. it is indeed shameful that we couldn't act against pak after 26/11. the arrogant pak foreign minister qureshi is a buffoon at best. there can be no talks with the pakis. not today, not ever.
You people need to stop this 26/11 thing demand
No matter how you people scream you should understand this that PAKISTAN is not interested in 26/11 investigation, we have have our own problems

Why Don't You people Understand, we are not interested in all that and still you keep passing demands for 26/11 reports
 

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It should be understood long ago that PAKISTAN will not be solving your 26/11 problem
But your media and leaders keep wasting their time so ..... thats not our fault
 

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Why don't you educate your own Indian nation about truth of RAW sponsoring terrorism to Talibans

The last thing we ever need is your help ??? seriously ??

And as far you said 9/11 7/7 and even Mumbai Attacks are MADE IN PAKISTAN if i go for a Google search, this all a conspiracy

Every one knows now who did 9/11 7/7 attacks that is CIA and MOSSAD themselves they just wanted to create a new world order

You can make the whole world fool but we people know very well who is behind all of this
PAK ARMY is doing operation in Northern Areas and guess what they found .. Indian Weapons and Indian Sponsored People

US just created a Hype of Taliban and did 9/11 themselves in order to get an excuse to enter into Afghanistan and Iraq
Now US planning to Invade PAK and IRAN and luckily US has founded India (Pakistan's) enemy to get some help
Seriously You all Pakistanis are living in Alice in wonderland. Some Idiot Talibani Mulla feeds you some nicely cooked stories and you all idiots start believing it . You mean to say It was India which created Taliban and captured almost entire Afganistan and we used Pakistan territory and Pakistani Terror school to train them . We were providing all logistical support to Talibans in Afganistan through Pakistan.
WOW man I am Proud of India. WE are really capable of screwing Pakistan anytime we feel like.

Be a sport and accept the fact that Taliban is your own monster which has gone out of control and is bent on killing its own master.
I think Google is Available in Pakistan as well. Why dont you Talibs go and search for pakistan + taliban+ terrorism . You will get a lot of pages and that too from neutral countries.
 

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It should be understood long ago that PAKISTAN will not be solving your 26/11 problem
But your media and leaders keep wasting their time so ..... thats not our fault
Its not your fault because you are incompetent . you donot have guts to kill your own dog who has gone mad.
 

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You people need to stop this 26/11 thing demand
No matter how you people scream you should understand this that PAKISTAN is not interested in 26/11 investigation, we have have our own problems

Why Don't You people Understand, we are not interested in all that and still you keep passing demands for 26/11 reports
Screaming is one thing pakistan taught india from indus water thing oh sure screaming does help.Kepps you on back foot when 12 different countries of citizens were killed in 26/11.screaming helps india when cameroon calls spade a sapde and there goes pak establishment haywire as we are seeing in this thread.:emot15:
 

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Its not your fault because you are incompetent . you donot have guts to kill your own dog who has gone mad.
We really don't to get into 26/11 mess thats all

And es we created Taliban during soviet war and those are fighting against US in Afghanistan

I'm talking about TTP (Tehrrek Taliban Pakistan) which is independent group fed by INDIANS
 

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His moronic statement will only take a heavy toll on ISAF in A-stan, No ISI means more mess for them, fortunately there are elements who still know that without WoT is in shambles so is A-stan

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Cameron can't blunder on Pakistan. Its troubles and role in terror make Afghanistan a sideshow

Baron Prescott, one supposes, would call it a tower of tittle-tattle. If you don't believe dodgy dossiers on Iraq, then why get excited about tall tales that tie Pakistani military intelligence to Taliban terror? This was one WikiLeaks strand that nobody repeated with full confidence. Who were these secondhand sources slipping Nato bizarre allegations? Maybe freelance storytellers, maybe Afghanistan's own intelligence officers. Maybe Chinese/Iranian/Indian secret agents. Welcome to a cesspit of cynicism and calculation.

Why did David Cameron wade right in – on Indian soil? Imagine Barack Obama going to Buenos Aires and making a speech about Britain's Falklands imperialism. Place and message together matter. So, frankly, does straight-dealing. The WikiLeaks allegations go back years: a random bundle of Nato documents Washington and Whitehall have long had access to. Nothing happened last week that made any difference, or required an instant response.

But new prime ministers with new dilemmas to address are allowed to stumble, to fail to realise that the problem here doesn't lie in Kabul or the Hindu Kush. Afghanistan is a sideshow. Pakistan, a nuclear state with a population seven times bigger than its troublesome neighbour, is the main event.

Where (with help from the CIA) were the original Taliban recruited, trained? Where are the masters of 9/11 still hiding? Where did virtually every bomb plotter of the last nine years do his ignition course? Which country is still fighting a desperate battle to keep its own fundamentalists at bay? Which country has seen more of its troops die in the "war against terror" than Nato? And its citizens slaughtered in huge bomb blasts? Which country, if it became a failed state, would be the biggest disaster of the lot? Pakistan ticks every box.

The devil lies in putting too much stress on fine, malevolent detail. Look at the frailties of the CIA or MI6. Why, in the chaos of Pakistan, assume that a Bond-like Inter-Services Intelligence controls every lever? It's a convenient copout, not a true cause of failure.

The ISI is only one part of Pakistan's crisis. Its bosses aren't coming to London. Its constitutional leader, the democratically elected President Zardari, is turning up. But he can't tell the army what to do. Not that the generals, losing men in badland frontier wars, know. Public opinion needs someone to blame. Western interference is there for a demo kicking. And factor in terror strikes, incompetence, corruption.

Lecturing from the White House or Downing Street serves no purpose. Nor does the assumption that "something can be done" when, on the ground, it can't. But at least, as the war of words swells, we might get focus clear.

Winning a town or a village in Helmand now doesn't matter. Nor, three or four years on, does propping up Karzai in Kabul. If we want to clamp down on terror training – keeping "our cities safe" – then Pakistan is the heart of the action.

It can't be military action. That is absurd. It can be aid in action. But diplomatic action, for once, matters most of all. And it must begin at square one.

Kashmir? The reason why Pakistan's military stays so strong, so funded, so bent on matching India's every move. The reason why Pakistan democracy has proved so frail. The reason why Islamabad dabbles in Afghanistan's shifting alliances. Begin to broker a final Indo-Pakistani peace, try to set stable relations at the core of the subcontinent, and everything else begins to follow.

Not easy. Not sweet talk on a trade visit to Delhi. But if you don't know where to start, then you'll never finish.
 
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Screaming is one thing pakistan taught india from indus water thing oh sure screaming does help.Kepps you on back foot when 12 different countries of citizens were killed in 26/11.screaming helps india when cameroon calls spade a sapde and there goes pak establishment haywire as we are seeing in this thread.:emot15:
UK PM ne ye statement de ker hamara keya bigar leya ?

UK and US Gov are keep giving these statements to cheer up India so that they can use India for their own purposes in future as they did with PAKISTAN

You people need to open your eye before UK flattery gets you

Pehly US or UK yeh statements dete they
"PAKISTAN is our partner in WAR of TERROR" us khush fehmi me humne apna country me mess create kr leya

Ab tum bi woi kaam kero ... keep living in Paradise ... good work

MOD EDIT: Stop using Urdu/Hindi here
 
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David Cameron was today accused of being a "loudmouth" by David Miliband, the former foreign secretary and Labour leadership contender, over his claims that elements of the Pakistani state are responsible for exporting terrorism abroad.

The prime minister stood by his warning that Pakistan should not be allowed "to promote the export of terror" in the world, despite the anger his comments have provoked. Cameron said he would always talk "frankly" to Britain's friends as he insisted he had caused no offence and had not blamed the Islamabad government for promoting terrorism.

Speaking in New Delhi this morning on the second and final day of his visit to India, the prime minister said: "I don't think the British taxpayer wants me to go around the world saying what people want to hear."

Miliband rounded on Cameron's comments, claiming there was a "big difference between straight-talking and being a loudmouth".

Miliband said everyone had "two ears and one mouth" and it was important to use them "in that proportion" when it came to foreign policy.

While Pakistan must go "further and faster" in dealing with the terrorism that has been launched from its own midst, it was also important to recognise how much Pakistan itself has suffered from the terrorism that afflicts the whole of south Asia, said Miliband, who insisted that he was not seeking to score points as part of his leadership bid.

He told BBC Radio 4's World At One: "It is very, very important that the prime minister, who in three unscripted appearances at press conferences has gone off script ... understands that we have got two ears and one mouth and it is very important to use them in that proportion."

Cameron today dismissed fears that his comments risked overshadowing a visit next week to Chequers by the Pakistan president, Asif Ali Zardari.

"I don't think it's overshadowed anything," he said. "I think it's important to speak frankly and clearly about these issues. I have always done that in the past and will do so in the future."

The prime minister insisted that he had been talking about "people within Pakistan" who launch terrorist attacks abroad rather than its government.

A furious diplomatic row erupted between London and Islamabad last night after Cameron's comments yesterday, when he warned that Pakistan could no longer "look both ways" by tolerating terrorism while demanding respect as a democracy.

Angry responses followed from Pakistani officials in the UK and the foreign ministry in Islamabad.

The prime minister initiated the row yesterday morning in a speech to Indian business leaders in Bangalore, when he spoke of his horror at the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai for which New Delhi directly blamed the Pakistani authorities.

Cameron came close to endorsing that view when he said: "We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country is allowed to look both ways and is able to promote the export of terror, whether to India or Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world."

Pakistan took the rare step of issuing an official rebuttal. Abdul Basit, a spokesman for the Pakistani foreign ministry, told Radio 4's World at One: "There is no question of Pakistan looking the other way. I think the prime minister was referring to these reports, which are unverifiable and outdated. If we start drawing inferences from these self-serving reports, then obviously we are distracting ourselves."

Downing Street insisted the prime minister was not accusing Pakistan's government of sponsoring terrorism. But a few minutes after his speech, Cameron made clear that official agencies in Pakistan were responsible for harbouring terrorists.

Asked on the Today programme whether Pakistan exports terrorism, Cameron said: "I choose my words very carefully. It is unacceptable for anything to happen within Pakistan that is about supporting terrorism elsewhere. It is well-documented that that has been the case in the past, and we have to make sure that the Pakistan authorities are not looking two ways. They must only look one way, and that is to a democratic and stable Pakistan."
 

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First of all after 9/11 Pakistan had no choice except supporting United States after the US statement "We will throw You Back to Stone Ages"
No. it was not the threat but the pakistan got with its pants down with ISI's direct involvement in 9/11.
"General Mahmoud Ahmed, the then head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), wired $100,000 before the 9/11 attacks to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/22/usa.september11

All other stories from loudmouth mushraff were for pakistani public consumption like any typical PA general from Ayub to zia.let me Quote pakistans former air chief marshal Nur khan for you....

"Since the 1965 war was based on a big lie and was presented to the nation a great victory, the Army came to believe its own fiction and has used since, Ayub as its role model and therefore has continued to fight unwanted wars — the 1971 war and the Kargil fiasco in 1999, he said."
http://www.dawn.com/2005/09/06/nat2.htm

What he says that pak army generals like Ayub ,yahya ,musharraff creates conflict with india for their own grandstanding and even after losing they believe in their own created fictions nation as a whole.Case in point Mushy's self grandstanding in his biography,"in the line of fire".1965 war in many ways similar to the 1999 kargil war.See these generals dont learn anything from histroy coz they live in their own self created history as Noor Khan points out


If India had ever given a such of statement our Army AirForce and ISI are capable enough to reply them back but as far as US is concerned we have no shield against F-22 Raptor
No it wasnt Pakistan for wich india showed restrain it was usa .BTW pakistan is client state so it has to complete demands of its master either by threat or love.

And Why INDIA is building Schools and Roads in Afghanistan Near Pak-Afghan ??? Is INDIA is really a developed country so now India has started developing other nations like Afghanistan .. You know charity begins from home, why don't India pay attention to AIDS and POVERTY inside its own territory instead of building schools and roads in Afghanistan
Let me correct you india is constructing roads and schools hospitals only in afghanistan not in pakistan.And afghanistan is not pakistan's "baap ki property".What you people gave afghanistan death and destruction india is giving life and infra.BTW india gives aid to all the SAARC countries be it in infra medicines,hospital,schools or treatment of patients for free as in case of pakistani patients.Sure charity starts at home and we do all charity by bring patients tio india and treat them for free in the same budget allocated for indian patients.BTW india is developed country in south Asia so it our responsibility to take every one together with us those coz we are the economic engine of south asia. even the slums of mumbai churn out $ 2.3 billion economy which is almost twice the kerry -lugar amount pakistan gets per year.

And as far as the world terrorism sponsorship is concerned the problem is no one believes PAKISTAN due to its corrupt politicians who beg all the time to fill up their own tommy's
For 60 yrs of pakistan's freedom civilians ruled only for 25 odd years.And all terrorism was started and nurtured under Pak army and ISI.Blaming politicians for the Frankenstein that PA has created is not right.moreover even when civilians were in power Army was in and still very much in control.

The real fact is NATO and ALLIED FORCES are losing their WAR in AFGHANISTAN and they pushed the WAR inside PAKISTAN so they can leave easily
NATO is losing due to double dealing of pakistan a picture is worth 1000 words.....




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UK PM ne ye statement de ker hamara keya bigar leya ?

UK and US Gov are keep giving these statements to cheer up India so that they can use India for their own purposes in future as they did with PAKISTAN

You people need to open your eye before UK flattery gets you

Pehly US or UK yeh statements dete they
"PAKISTAN is our partner in WAR of TERROR" us khush fehmi me humne apna country me mess create kr leya

Ab tum bi woi kaam kero ... keep living in Paradise ... good work

Dont you worry, india wont do pakistan here.
India very well knows how to keep safe distance from super-powers. FYI india icannot be categorised in any party of super-powers. I guess thats a sucess. Unlike pakistan which is happy to be a bitch of US and china simultaneously.
 

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We really don't to get into 26/11 mess thats all

And es we created Taliban during soviet war and those are fighting against US in Afghanistan

I'm talking about TTP (Tehrrek Taliban Pakistan) which is independent group fed by INDIANS
Don't lie blatantly here.
The US and ISI were involved in creating mujahidin who were fighting the soviets, once US left the region after that ISI has created taliban not US. It's ur creation don't blame others for your ills
 

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How world is a victim ? what we did to the world ?
Only god knows how you may have missed news which says "FSB found pakistani links in Moscow blasts"? BTW this news is just the latest in chain.

Ok whats gone is gone from now onwards throughly read any news on any terrorist attack occurred anywhere in world you will get the idea.

Pakistan is victim its own created terrorism ? If that so, what are Indians doing in Afghanistan specially near Pak-Afghan Border ? Why there are Indian consulates in Afghanistan ?
Honestly i would love to see your words as truth but truth of the day is opposite. We have nothing to do with what is happening in western Pakistan in particular and Pakistan in general.

If we had such plans and our leaders had guts for this then by now we would have created hell for PA in POK; the area which matters most for us.
 
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Ah David miliband the banana boy ............:happy_2:



David Miliband and the Banana of Stupidity


In what I can only assume is an attempt to boost his profile for a forthcoming leadership contest, the man most famous for advertising bananas has decided to take us to war, not with one country, but with two!
Not content with getting Iran to threaten to punch us in the mouth, he's now gone and picked a fight with China. China!
Now, normally a bit of light war is a great vote-winner, just ask Thatcher. It's especially good if you're not hugely dependent on the country you're fighting. But while we might be able to source our steaks from somewhere other than Argentina, it's a lot more difficult for us to survive without China as a trading partner (in both directions) and owner of British public debt. China wouldn't even have to fire up a single jet to crush us: simply dropping all they own of our debt onto the open market would render Britain unable to finance a whelk stall, let alone a war with a major superpower.
While his self-aggrandising battle with imams might play well in the coffee houses of Teheran, I think most people in the UK are already unhappy with the number of fights that this government has picked with dusky foreigners who think that the death of a martyr is a good way to go.
And this completely ignores the fact that the British public are weary of pointless wars instigated at the behest of tin-pot madmen, especially when these wars in far-away lands are used to justify attacks on us.
If I may be so very humble as to offer a small observation, David: this isn't going to end well for you. It's probably better if you shut up now, before anyone actually gets hurt.


Read more: http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/banana-of-stupidity/#ixzz0vWjqHcHM
 

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