I was offered a bribe of Rs. 14 crore, says Army Chief

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Very Very disturbing but factual article by Col RSM :

RSM Singh lays it out for all in his piece in Firstpost.
Quoting it in full with emphasis and comments.

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An Imminent Hijack by the Arms lobby

by RSN Singh, Canary Trap
The biggest curse for any Indian today is probity. Had Gen VK Singh accepted the Rs 14 crore bribe he claimed he was offered, he would have been the darling of the establishment and would have rode to the office of governor of some state on retirement.

The revelations by the army chief regarding an attempt to bribe him by a Lt Gen during the course of an interview with a national daily was known to this author and informed people in the journalist fraternity. The fact that there exists evidence by way of a taped conversation between the said Lt Gen and the army chief is also not a new input. This author had written about the role of this Lt Gen in trying to bribe the army chief at the behest of certain arms supplier in an earlier Firstpost article, "Who's trying to fix the army chief by raking up his age?" in July 2011.

This article was widely circulated. The offer of bribe was to push the sale of Tatra vehicles at an exorbitant price. A particular firm was purchasing second-hand Tatra vehicles and selling it through Bharat Earth Movers Ltd (BEML) at more than double the cost. Reportedly, while the cost of each vehicle off the shelf was around Rs 30-40 lakh, there was a bid by the arms lobby to sell it to the Indian army for about Rs 1 crore.

The army chief refused to put the army and the country to such a massive loss of tax-payer money. It is then that the Lt Gen allegedly offered a bribe of Rs 14 crore. When the army chief did not relent, he is understood to have pleaded that army chiefs before the present incumbent had all played ball and those who will succeed him would also do so. Tatra vehicles have been procured by the Indian army since 1986.

Significantly, the army chief said that he immediately reported the matter to the defence minister and offered to quit if he was considered a 'misfit'. This offer to quit is pregnant in import, and its depth and linkages are yet to unravel.

A conscientious and God-fearing defence minister did acknowledge in the Rajya Sabha that the matter was indeed reported to him and he stated that he sank his head in his hands. Was it because of the conflict between his 'head and heart'? Or in other words, was it because of the conflict between the defence minister's personal integrity and political integrity or political compulsions?

It is rather well known that the defence minister has always held the army chief in very high esteem for reasons of personal integrity, something which resonates with his own personality. Some sources have revealed to this author that Antony had almost decided to rule in favour of Gen VK Singh in respect to the date of birth controversy after the first opinion of the law ministry, which categorically upheld the general's contention. It was then that powers in positions superior to Antony compelled him to readdress the case to the law ministry. It did weigh heavily on his conscience, and there were political offers and assurances to recompense the hurt caused by the deliberate miscarriage of truth and justice in ways more than one.

The general found it hard to buy the bargain on a basic issue that questioned his character. Notwithstanding the efforts of emissaries he did not relent and offered to resign. The political class, prodded by a megalomaniac bureaucracy for fear of the 'succession plan' being upset in deference to the arms lobby, as also the unacceptable adverse political fallout for reasons of political funding requirements, began to threaten the general that should he choose to offer his resignation it would not be accepted.

The general was thus driven to the Supreme Court.

The establishment, more so powers superior to Antony, were unnerved by this development, as they were acutely conscious that the general's case was 'open and shut'. Leave alone experienced lawyers, even a first year law student will vouch for the fact. What happened thereafter is well known. Every institution in India has probably discredited itself in this age row.

It is not that the army was not confronted earlier with such instances of discrepancies in dates of birth of officers. They are routine and are resolved quickly and appropriately. An exactly similar case was resolved in the late 1990s just one day before the retirement of one Col Ramesh Chandra Dixit. VK Singh was made the first and last exception. Last exception, because the MoD or the Army Headquarters consequent to their ruling on Gen VK Singh's age, cannot legally dare to reiterate that the Army List, or the Military Secretary's Branch enjoy primacy over the Adjutant General's Branch with matters pertaining to date of birth of officers.

What was therefore perpetrated on the army chief was a fraud. A fraud so outrageous that it seemingly reduces India to the category of Banana Republic. Who perpetrated this fraud? It was two army chiefs in succession, whose reputations are today under attack for their unsavory deeds and involvement in various scams. Imagine an army chief (COAS General Deepak Kapoor ,COAS Gen N C Vij and Admiral Madhavendra Singh) appropriating flats meant for families of Kargil martyrs.

Can it get worse? It is no wonder that these army chiefs, who as father figures, should have protected the professional and personal integrity of their subordinates, chose to force Gen Singh to accept a particular date of birth, failing which there was an implied threat that the controversy would be used to derail him. They should have instead apologised for the omissions and commissions of a particular branch of the army headquarters. Once the so-called 'acceptance' was obtained on the repeated plea of 'organisational constraints', the army chiefs began to breath easy.

Gen Singh's subsequent pleadings to explain the 'organizational constraints' fell on deaf ears. The sigh of relief was because the 'succession plan' as desired by the arms lobby was now in place.

The Indian army and the army personnel as such are not safe under such chiefs.

The bureaucrats became part of the design only after Gen Singh raked up the issue of his date of birth as COAS (Chief of Army Staff). Four former chief justices of India, all of them with impeccable credentials, gave opinions in his favour, but this did not appeal to the moral sense of the ministry. That the law ministry gave an opinion categorically upholding Gen Singh's stand, did not help. When the general said it was not a question of additional few months, but his honour, it did not help. He was ridiculed, not only "¦"¦"¦"¦"¦.by the political and bureaucratic establishment but by some retired generals as well.

These retired generals are now (Who? can some one list), courtesy television channels, very familiar faces. All of them have a dubious past. One of them was forced to resign from the army because of IB reports regarding his indiscriminate womanising. The other is known to have run away with his senior's wife, and the third was in the dock for possessing a false degree. So much for the detractors of Gen Singh!

These characters only testify that the muck in the army has been accumulating over the years. It was quite evident when some generals awarded themselves shamelessly after the Kargil conflict.. There was no bravery or operational genius on display on their part. It would have been befitting to send some of them packing. The politics of the day saved them.

Corruption in the arms procurement process is not a new phenomenon. It started soon after independence. There was the Jeep scandal in VK Krishna Menon's time. The underpinning of the Tehelka sting operation was also regarding the same corruption. So what is new?

What is alarming and dangerous is the level of influence the arms lobby has acquired that it has begun to decide as to who would be the army chief and the length of his tenure. The tentacles of this lobby have penetrated every conceivable pillar institution of the state.

Reportedly, several crores of rupees have been spent by the arms lobby to perpetuate the date of birth fraud on Gen Singh. Such is the depth of influence of the lobby that only a divine intervention can salvage the obvious truth that every 'straight' Indian realises: that morally and legally Gen Singh's date of birth is 10 May 1951 and not 10 May 1950 as inflicted by the two army chiefs at the behest of the arms lobby. It is rather depressing to find so many 'not too straight' serving officers in the army.

The arms lobby first contrived to inflict the date of birth controversy on the general; then launched a media campaign to make him resign by engineering a divide between the general and the defence minister, as also the civil authority versus military. Then there was an attempt to prevent him from going to court by invoking tradition and precedence; then there was a campaign to make him withdraw his case from the Supreme Court; then there was psychological pressure being put on him to resign after the Supreme Court order which says nothing about his date of birth; and when he did not resign then there were desperate moves to get him sacked.

The fabrication of the story regarding the bugging of the defence minister's office at the behest of the general should be seen in this backdrop. The story was so poorly scripted that it fell apart. The writers of this script continue to enjoy immunity. The letter leak (from the general to the prime minister) should also be viewed in the same vein. The clamour for the chief's head by some bizarre quarters(Mulayam and Lallo Yadavs - conviniently by bashing a "Singh" these Caste Satraps buttress their "Yadav" position too) was also at the behest of the arms lobby.

A former diplomat (NSA Brajesh Mishra), who messed with India's national security, was pulled out of the cobwebs to suggest that the general should be sent on 'forced leave', little realising that there is no such provision in army law. He did not prefer 'sacking' probably due to his own vulnerabilities. Another former diplomat(KC Singh ?) with no locus-standi and no knowledge of army functioning has been taking special delight in VK Singh bashing. The man, it is apparent, has more than one motivation in doing so. This diplomat claimed that the unprecedented media campaign against Gen Singh unleashed by a daily newspaper published from the north was with the tacit approval of the PM. A prime minister getting after his own army chief via the media, if true, can happen only in Banana Republics.
A few years ago one Commander Nadeem(??) was mowed by a truck while he was taking his morning jog on the lawns of Shanti Path in New Delhi. He was dealing with the acquisition of some sensitive equipment. The recent death of a MoD official, Kumar Yashkar Sinha, and his wife is also intriguing. Initially the police dubbed the case as one of murder by strangulation of the wife by the husband followed by 'suicide' by the latter by setting himself aflame.

The profile of the officer suggests that he was of very strong character and enjoyed great marital harmony with his wife. It is, therefore, most unlikely that he had any suicidal tendencies. The police, based on a letter recovered from the scene of the crime, is attributing 'work pressure' by some superiors of the official for his alleged suicide. It is bizarre. No person will kill his wife because of his own work pressure. No person will strangulate his wife and then immolate himself.

He could well have hung himself instead of choosing such a painful route to suicide. It now emerges that the official was also dealing with RTI in the MoD. Is the murder of the official and his wife the handiwork of the arms lobby? The possibility cannot be ruled out.

The machinations of the arms lobby seem to have subverted the top leadership of the army considerably. One army chief allegedly initiated the culture of political funding by linking the army to the arms lobby- bureaucracy- politician nexus for political funding. The desperation and ruthlessness of the key players and key institutions could well be motivated by 2014 elections.

It is a matter of grave concern that succession plans in the army are being made at the behest of the arms lobby. It is not merely a question of subversion of a few people at the top. It has a cascading affect and thus the entire selection system gets vitiated and in the process the entire army gets subverted.

Lord Wavell had predicated the survival of India as one entity on the preservation of the Indian army as an effective and irreproachable instrument. This instrument is not fraying from the edges but is under threat from the top. If the slide continues, India would unravel. As it is, the state is losing its writ at a frightening pace. If the last bastion crumbles, India will indeed survive as another Banana Republic. Let us therefore save the Indian army and save India.
 
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The recent death of a MoD official, Kumar Yashkar Sinha, and his wife is also intriguing. Initially the police dubbed the case as one of murder by strangulation of the wife by the husband followed by 'suicide' by the latter by setting himself aflame.

The profile of the officer suggests that he was of very strong character and enjoyed great marital harmony with his wife. It is, therefore, most unlikely that he had any suicidal tendencies. The police, based on a letter recovered from the scene of the crime, is attributing 'work pressure' by some superiors of the official for his alleged suicide. It is bizarre. No person will kill his wife because of his own work pressure. No person will strangulate his wife and then immolate himself.

These are some daring words..
 

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New details emerge on Tatra truck deal

PRAVEEN SWAMI
VINAY KUMAR
The Hindu


CBI questions London millionaire again

Even as Central Bureau of Investigation detectives have begun questioning Ravi Rishi, the London-based millionaire businessman at the heart of the showdown between the Defence Ministry and Chief of the Army Staff V.K. Singh, fresh details have begun to emerge of the truck deal that precipitated the crisis.

Rajan Mukherjee, the general manager of West Bengal-based Ural India, has told The Hindu that General Singh — then General Officer-Commanding of the Eastern Command — had requested the firm to provide trucks for testing in 2008, after Tatra trucks sold by Mr. Rishi's firm "miserably failed 17 Mountain for performing Quick Reaction Team and reconnaissance duties in [the] super-high altitude areas of northern Sikkim."

"Defects"

"During the trials," Mr. Mukherjee said in an e-mail to The Hindu, "the Tatra vehicle developed defects in engine assembly, whereas Ural's engine performance was satisfactory even after running about 600 km at high altitude."

Mr. Rishi owns Vectra, a conglomerate which has a controlling stake in Czech and Slovak-based specialist truck firm Tatra, which has supplied the Indian Army since 1986.

Rashi Verma, a Joint Secretary at the Defence Ministry, had said last week that the government had "never received any complaint from the armed forces" — a statement which suggests the Eastern Command either chose not to pass on its problems with the Tatra to the army headquarters in New Delhi, or that its reports were suppressed by higher authorities.

In an exclusive interview to The Hindu published on March 26, General Singh had said he was offered a Rs. 14-crore bribe, which, it emerged, was linked to an officer allegedly representing Tatra to clear a consignment of 600 trucks.

There is no information available so far if Ural India's trucks were the sole platform tested by the Eastern Command in Northern Sikkim and if so, why. Ural is co-owned by Kolkata-based magnate J.K. Saraf, who knew Gen. Singh during his tenure as Eastern Army Commander. There is no allegation, however, of the relationship having caused improper influence to be exercised.

Mr. Mukherjee's claims, however, stand in stark contrast to earlier statements by VRS Natarajan, the head of public-sector giant BEML, which co-manufactures Tatra trucks in India. Mr. Natarajan claimed that Ural India's trucks had been knocked out of competition in the ongoing trials, a claim Mr. Mukherjee has denied in his e-mail to The Hindu, adding that his firm is considering "appropriate action."

The BEML chief, however, has since been backed by Defence Research and Development Organisation chief V.K. Saraswat, who said Tatra trucks were "outstanding." Both BEML and Tatra have said they are considering legal action against General Singh, but provided no details of their course of action.

Army sources said the problem encountered in Sikkim could have been related to the Tatra truck's engine, which is designed for rugged battlefield use, compromising high-altitude performance in return for lower risks of breakdown.

CBI officials refused comment on the issues they had discussed with Mr. Rishi, but the businessman has been barred from leaving India until further notice.

He was earlier questioned by the agency officials last week, soon after the CBI registered an FIR in the case. CBI officials were also poring over and analysing a number of documents seized during raids in Delhi, Noida and Bangalore.

Apart from Mr. Rishi, the FIR refers to unknown officials of BEML, Vectra and the Army. The case was registered under provisions of the Indian Penal Code relating to criminal conspiracy to cheat and under the Prevention of Corruption Act.

The investigators are tasked with looking into all purchases of Tatra trucks made from 1997, when Vectra took control of Tatra. Since 1986, the Army has purchased some 7,000 Tatra trucks to transport troops and artillery.

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3280890.ece
 

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TATRA makes good trucks. So do UralAZ and KamAZ, both of whom have manufacturing facilities with local collaborators in India. Even TATA and Ashok-Leyland make good trucks. If it is proven that TATRA did try to bribe, IMHO, that should be the end of story for TATRA in India.
 

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TATRA makes good trucks. So do UralAZ and KamAZ, both of whom have manufacturing facilities with local collaborators in India. Even TATA and Ashok-Leyland make good trucks. If it is proven that TATRA did try to bribe, IMHO, that should be the end of story for TATRA in India.
If that comes to an end, What will happen to black money stashed in Tax heavens and then routed to India for horse trading, election funding, buying bureaucrates, journalists and sustaining the regime as also undertaking and financing terrorrism, big crimes, murders, showing the General his place, hiring lobbyists like Ahluwalia, Brijesh Mishrea etc?
It is going to be gigantic tasks and some good people have lost their entire reputations and livesion this path.
 

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My view is that Gen. V.K singh is best and He should be Next Prime Minister
 

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My view is that Gen. V.K singh is best and He should be Next Prime Minister
well, that kind of alarmist view is what puts the dynasty in panic ... you understand that. They will destroy every blade of grass that seems to remotely suggest that any one can be an alternative to the dynasty... It is after all Mogul court ... they killed every kith and kin who could lay any claim to the thrown... Moguls turned Pandits..
 

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The Satanic Verses
Indian Army is the casualty
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The differences, misunderstandings and confrontation between General VK Singh and the defence ministry or, more generally, the Manmohan Singh government makes for riveting politics of a different kind. There are those who have stood up for the general who set out to clean up the army's Augean stables and, as a consequence, ruffled many feathers. The other side has argued, rather persuasively, that the general who talks of an offer of bribes in a selective fashion to journalists is no friend of the army, and that he is doing more harm than good.
In this furore, what has gone unnoticed is the needs of the army: equipment, ammunition and weapons — in short, modernisation and upgrade of technology — that has got buried under an avalanche of controversy. By sticking to his guns, the general seems to believe he is pleading the army's case. But he is unintentionally undermining its morale. The government, too, has not been reassuring with its passive response, denials and rationalisation. In this battle between the general and the government, the loser is the army.

The government must see to it that there is no further worsening of the relationship between the army and its civilian masters. And the various warring generals must stand down in the larger interest of the army to avert a clash that hurts the force more than anyone else.
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Look who is blaming whom and for wrong reasons !
 

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Defence minister AK Antony in crosshairs for taking on arms lobby?

NEW DELHI: A spate of controversies about the Army may have been a result of the vicious factional feud within the force, but there are indications that the controversies are also being used as fodder to target defence minister AK Antony.

Allegations against Army chief Gen VK Singh, ranging from deployment of off-the-air interceptors to unauthorized troop movements to the capital, may have emanated from internal rivalries in the Army, but many now suspect these are now being used to make a case against Antony for his "inaction" and inability to handle the delicate equation between the political leadership and the Army.

The reasons for the suspicions are twofold. First, with the Army chief set to retire on May 31, the main worry of his rivals has ceased to exist. Second, Antony's anti-corruption stand has antagonized a whole range of interests: arms lobbies, middlemen, foreign governments and armament firms.

Antony firm on clean process

Last month, Antony banned six armament companies, including four foreign firms - Israeli Military Industries, Singapore Technologies Kinetics, Rheinmetall Air Defence ( Zurich) and Corporation Defence ( Russia) - for 10 years.

It's said that some warned him against this radical step, saying the backlash could be severe. But the defence minister factored in the warning, kept the top political leadership informed about every step taken by him, and went ahead and blacklisted the companies in his deep belief that defence procurement by world's largest arms importer should be completely free of any taint.

Despite the growing criticism about his handling of defence ministry, Antony remains unapologetic. Only this week, he acknowledged that blacklisting Israel's IMI had derailed a Rs 1,200 crore project in Nalanda, Bihar, for an ordnance complex of five plants to manufacture propellant charges for heavy-calibre artillery ammunition for Bofors Howitzers and other guns. However, he defended the decision.

"Blacklisting IMI has further delayed our Nalanda project. We are determined to modernize our armed forces fast but there will be zero tolerance on corruption. So, sometimes delays will take place," he said at the induction ceremony of nuclear submarine INS Chakra at Visakhapatnam on Wednesday.

His quest for corruption-free defence purchases has been attacked as impractical and he has been blamed for delaying the modernization of the armed forces. But while this has argument has virtually been turned into conventional wisdom, facts prove that armed forces have fared much better under Antony in using up budgetary allocations. Last year, the defence ministry spent the entire allocation.


Defence minister AK Antony in crosshairs for taking on arms lobby? - The Times of India
 

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My view is that Gen. V.K singh is best and He should be Next Prime Minister
any Indian can do that , after his job he can try to some election .

but theses two are different things

luck worked for only manmohan singh by chance two time pm
 

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I wish may the Chief get one more year in office and with Mr.clean Antony as DM , I hope they can do something to clean our ARMY.
 

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He can't get an extension since that is not the policy.

I think it is the end of an era.

I am sceptical because this unique and never done before so called 'Line of Succession' policy has been structured by JJ Singh, awarded with a Governorship and Deepak Kapoor has played his role.

Therefore, the Line of Succession beneficiaries becomes suspect. Hopefully the next man is not a handpicked and engineered nominee of this scheme of succession.
 
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He can't get an extension since that is not the policy.

I think it is the end of an era.
The govt could accept his correct date of birth. Otherwise the government is leading into their self created trap of appointing the Arms dealers into power position. The allegations on him will stick thick and thin. This is not the time for UPA to be arrogant like a bull.
 

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Would the Line of Succession smozzle be without Govt's OK?

The Govt did not allow the Chief to change the ridiculous policy, which was causing heartburns, of dividing the General Officers in a Command Stream and a Staff Stream.

If it weren't that the govt had given the OK to this Line Of Succession razzmatazz , why was there so much of hullabaloo over the same, when at first the RM is said to have accepted the Chief's contention?
 
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Army truck deal: BEML flouted deal, used Tatra name

NEW DELHI: The Central Bureau of Investigation has come across evidence which show that manufacturers of Tatra trucks did not object to a key violation of the contract agreement between them and defence public sector unit (PSU) BEML.

The violation, of BEML allegedly using the trade name and trademark of Czech Republic-based original manufacturer of Tatra trucks, is being examined in the light of the contract agreements between the two signatories in 1997, sources said.

Among the several documents recovered during raids, CBI officials have found the document related to the 1997 contract between BEML and Tatra Sipox, in which Paragraph 11 reportedly states that BEML cannot use the trademark of Tatra. However, for so many years, BEML has been making trucks for the Army in the name of Tatra. "They (BEML) are only buying parts from Tatra, not the trucks. They assemble the trucks here in India. We will look into the whole contract and other details," said a senior CBI official.

This is the reason that agency has also asked for the documents from Tatra as well, and an LR would be sent soon, seeking further information. The agency is also planning to soon question BEML chairman VRS Natarajan.

Earlier, the agency had questioned UK-based NRI businessman Ravi Rishi for six times in connection with the Tatra deal. The CBI probe is expected to take time as voluminous documents collected from the defence ministry in connection with the Tatra deal are being studied.

In 1997, Tatra Sipox UK had signed a truck supply deal with BEML allegedly in violation of defence procurement rules which say that purchases should be done directly from original equipment manufacturers. The first agreement for supply of all-terrain trucks used for transport of soldiers, heavy machinery, missile systems etc was signed with the Czechoslovakia-based firm, Tatra, in 1986.

In 1997, BEML started procuring trucks through Tatra Sipox UK, which claims to be the marketing arm of Tatra, in which Ravi Rishi had a substantial stake. CBI has alleged that since Tatra Sipox UK was not the original manufacturer of these all-terrain trucks, the rule that defence purchases should be made from original manufacturer has also been violated.

http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/12576566.cms
 

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Ravi Rishi on record in an interview claimed that BEML was its distributor. A distributor has the rights to use the principle's logo, name etc.
 

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Would the Line of Succession smozzle be without Govt's OK?

The Govt did not allow the Chief to change the ridiculous policy, which was causing heartburns, of dividing the General Officers in a Command Stream and a Staff Stream.

If it weren't that the govt had given the OK to this Line Of Succession razzmatazz , why was there so much of hullabaloo over the same, when at first the RM is said to have accepted the Chief's contention?
Sir,

This is a sick and dangerous trend, shame of JJ Singh and Deepak Kapoor and their coitre.

May they suffur for their sins here on earth.
 

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For a change i give you at the time Lt Col Vijay Kumar Singh, Rajput Regt, in the movie Prahar!

[video=youtube_share;Ig042YdPLZQ]http://youtu.be/Ig042YdPLZQ[/video]
 

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