Hypersonic Missiles

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
Russia is always in a rush to score PR points by constantly declaring immature new weapons as combat-ready or in service. Aside from Su-57, now the problems with their hypersonics are coming out. In particular, with the much hyped Zircon hypersonic cruise missile. The tragedy here is if Rissian soldiers are killed by premature explosions of these premature weapons...

Russian Navy's Top Officer Says Shadowy Zircon Hypersonic Missile Has "Childhood Diseases"

The missile, details about which are scant,
least some development hurdles to overcome and is still years away from entering service.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...con-hypersonic-missile-has-childhood-diseases
 
Last edited:

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
The US on the other hand has been cautious on hypersonic development preferring to keep on refining their sustems despite decades of experimentation and testing. Now the US may add another platform to aid it in further testing hypersonics...

Stratolaunch Was Crafting Hypersonic Vehicles Before Its Official Pivot To High-Speed Testing

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...fore-its-official-pivot-to-high-speed-testing
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
U.S. accelerates hypersonic missile developments

The U.S. Air Force has two advanced developments, Arrow and Hacksaw, air-launched, boost-glide hypersonic missiles. The AGM-183A, Advanced Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW), uses a rocket engine to boost into space and then glides to the target at hypersonic speeds. The top claimed speed is Mach 20 (15,340 mph). It will carry a conventional or tactical nuclear warhead. The first test flight was conducted this year, and it is planned to be operational by 2022. HACKSAW (Hypersonic Advanced Conventional Strike Weapon) is a boost-glide weapon that uses a solid-fuel rocket for boost and GPS guidance. It also must be carried aloft by a high flying aircraft. It is a longer-range missile designed to attack targets across continents and is planned to be operational by 2022. The Lockheed-Martin Missiles and Space Division (LMSD) were awarded development contracts of $480 million and $928 million for ARRW and HACKSAW. LMSD is currently constructing a factory in Huntsville, Ala., to produce these weapons.

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is working on a Tactical Boost-Glide (TBG) weapon with a range of 500 miles and a Hyper-sonic Air Breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) that will use a SCRAM-JET engine to achieve hypersonic speeds. They are now in the early stages of assembly, integration and test. Qualification tests have proven difficult as materials must withstand temperatures of 3,000 degrees. They hope to fly both weapons by 2022.

Last February the U.S. Navy awarded LMSD an $846 million contract to design, develop, build and integrate rocket motors, flight systems and support equipment for their Intermediate Range Conventional Prompt Strike Weapons System. The Navy will also award contracts to upgrade their China Lake, Air Launch Test (ALT) complex and Under-water Launch Test (ULT) complex for hypersonic testing.

The U.S. Army has requested $228 million in the 2020 Defense budget to begin the development of a ground-launched, long-range hypersonic weapon. This is envisioned to be a new class of ultra-fast maneuverable missiles. It is estimated to be operational by 2023. The Army is also developing the glide body for USAF and USN boost-glide missiles, while the Navy will develop the booster rocket engines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ti...lerates-hyper-sonic-missile-developments/amp/
 

fire starter

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Jan 14, 2020
Messages
9,609
Likes
84,137
Country flag
The US on the other hand has been cautious on hypersonic development preferring to keep on refining their sustems despite decades of experimentation and testing. Now the US may add another platform to aid it in further testing hypersonics...

Stratolaunch Was Crafting Hypersonic Vehicles Before Its Official Pivot To High-Speed Testing

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...fore-its-official-pivot-to-high-speed-testing
just like we started with HSTDV..............
 

IndianHawk

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 24, 2016
Messages
9,058
Likes
37,672
Country flag
Russia is always in a rush to score PR points by constantly declaring immature new weapons as combat-ready or in service. Aside from Su-57, now the problems with their hypersonics are coming out. In particular, with the much hyped Zircon hypersonic cruise missile. The tragedy here is if Rissian soldiers are killed by premature explosions of these premature weapons...

Russian Navy's Top Officer Says Shadowy Zircon Hypersonic Missile Has "Childhood Diseases"

The missile, details about which are scant,
least some development hurdles to overcome and is still years away from entering service.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...con-hypersonic-missile-has-childhood-diseases
US has done same too. It pushed immature f35 in service which resulted in severe hypoxia in many pilots. Thankfully no one died.
 

panzerfeist1

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2020
Messages
256
Likes
415
Country flag


U.S. Missile Projects




Before I start we are sadly going to put an X mark for the HCSW US Air Force kills one of its hypersonic weapons programs because its cancelled.

TBG


Tactical Boost Glide

“Systems that operate at hypersonic speeds—five times the speed of sound (Mach 5) and beyond—offer the potential for military operations from longer ranges with shorter response times and enhanced effectiveness compared to current military systems. Such systems could provide significant payoff for future U.S. offensive strike operations, particularly as adversaries’ capabilities advance.

The Tactical Boost Glide (TBG) program is a joint DARPA/U.S. Air Force (USAF) effort that aims to develop and demonstrate technologies to enable future air-launched, tactical-range hypersonic boost glide systems. In a boost glide system, a rocket accelerates its payload to high speeds. The payload then separates from the rocket and glides unpowered to its destination.”

The weapon seems to offers maneuverability as well. I do not know the exact speed or range but it will be mach 5 or above.

Operational Fires


DARPA Awards Lockheed Martin Hypersonic OpFires Phase 3 Contract

“ORLANDO, Fla., Jan. 15, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) awarded Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT) a $31.9 million contract for the Operational Fires (OpFires) Phase 3 Weapon System Integration program. OpFires seeks to develop and demonstrate an innovative ground-launched system to enable a hypersonic boost glide missile system to penetrate modern enemy air defenses and rapidly engage time-sensitive targets.

Lockheed Martin, DARPA and the U.S. Army, aims to develop and demonstrate an innovative, ground-launched, mobile, integrated weapon system that leverages DARPA-funded propulsion solutions and hypersonic boost glide technology. The award for Phase 3 of the OpFires program will take the design from the initial requirements development through the Critical Design Review (CDR) in late 2021. Integrated flight testing is scheduled to begin in 2022, with component and subsystem tests expected in 2021.

"The OpFires missile is critical to providing the U.S. Army with a highly maneuverable and rapid response solution capable of operating from unpredictable land-launch positions to suppress hostile threats," said Hady Mourad, director of Tactical and Strike Missiles Advanced Programs at Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control. "Lockheed Martin will deliver the prototype missiles utilizing the experienced production teams that currently produce the ATACMS, GMLRS and PAC-3 missile systems in Camden, Arkansas."

Not much known about it either, but it will definitely have a longer range than a SRBM and can be launched by a TEL which are usually used by air defense systems.

ARRW


Lockheed Martin awarded $998 million hypersonic ARRW missile contract

“The rocket-boosted ARRW is one of two air-launched hypersonic missiles publicly known to be undergoing testing by the Pentagon, which considers the project necessary step to maintain an edge over near-peer competitors China and Russia, which have invested significantly in hypersonic weapons technology.

Hypersonic missiles and vehicles travel faster than Mach-5 (about 6,170 km/h) and are intended to outrace and outmaneuver existing missile and air defense systems.”

A hyper-sonic missile with maneuvering capabilities

LRHW


Lockheed Martin's Expertise in Hypersonic Flight Wins New Army Work

“The Army LRHW prototype will leverage the C-HGB and introduce a new class of ultrafast and maneuverable long-range missles with the ability to launch from ground mobile platforms. The LRHW system prototype will provide residual combat capability to soldiers by 2023.

Hypersonic strike weapons, capable of flying speeds in excess of Mach 5, are a key aspect of the long-range precision fire modernization effort for the Army and the national security strategy to compete with and outpace potential threats.”

IR-CPS


Lockheed Martin Wins $846M US Navy IRCPS Weapon System modification Contract

“Work is expected to be completed by Jan. 1, 2024, the United States department of Defense said in a statement Wednesday.

This procurement provides for the design, development, build and integration of large diameter rocket motors, associated missile body flight articles, and related support equipment for Navy IRCPS flight test demonstrations.”

HSWab


The HAWC missile project is now considered as HSWab. So far its the only Scramjet missile project being done as far as I know.
 

panzerfeist1

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2020
Messages
256
Likes
415
Country flag
U.S. Unknown Missile Project

RGPWS


MDA taps industry to build interceptor to defend against hypersonic threats

“WASHINGTON — The U.S. Missile Defense Agency is tapping industry to design and build an interceptor capable of defending against regional hypersonic weapons threats, releasing a draft request for proposals to build prototypes.

The request directs industry to submit whitepapers by March 19 to build a Hypersonic Defense Regional Glide Phase Weapons System interceptor, with plans to select at least one prime contractor to build a prototype that would culminate in a flight test, according to the draft RFP with an updated issue date of Jan. 30 and posted to sam.gov, the federal government’s contact opportunities website.

The agency notes that negotiations following review of whitepapers and oral presentations could result in no awards, one or multiple.

By building a flight test vehicle under the program, MDA hopes to better understand the technical utility of such a regional hypersonic defensive system and “will provide a pathway to subsequent tactical interceptor and fire control capability,” the document states.”

Sources To Watchout For Regarding Some of These Projects

There is some confusion that I have found out on the web just to inform other people here and this might probably destroy these websites credibility so here we go.

USAF B-52 in carry test of hypersonic ARRW missile

HCSW although it was cancelled was not an air-breathable engine.

The First U.S. Hypersonic Weapons: Arrow and Hacksaw

This source claimed mach 20 for quite a small missile. I was going to let it slide here and post the source but when it was referencing to be 4 times faster than the Kinzhal than that is basically saying mach 40 to mach 48 so in the trash bin this source goes.

Russia’s Missile Projects

Kinzhal


Kh-47M2 Kinzhal (“Dagger”)

“It has a claimed range of more than 2,000 km, a speed of more than Mach 10, and an ability to perform evasive maneuvers at every stage of flight carrying both conventional and nuclear warheads”

Since everyone likes to compare the Kinzhal to the Iskander, I only see one comparison however the speeds and ranges of them both are different.

Оперативно-тактический ракетный комплекс 9К720 'Искандер'

“The 9M723 missile is a solid fuel, single-stage missile with a warhead inseparable in flight. The missile is controlled along the entire flight path using aerodynamic and gas-dynamic rudders. The 9M723 flight path is not ballistic, but controllable. The rocket is constantly changing the plane of the trajectory. It is especially active in maneuvering in the area of its acceleration and approach to the target - with an overload of 20 to 30g.

In order to intercept the 9M723 missile, the anti-missile must move along the trajectory with an overload two to three times higher, and this is almost impossible. Most of the flight path of a rocket manufactured using the Stealth technology and having a small reflecting surface passes at an altitude of 50 km, which also significantly reduces the likelihood of its destruction by the enemy.

Russian Iskander-M Missile System: Credible Deterrent

“Following a relatively flat trajectory, the missile never leaves the atmosphere as it. False targets and small jammers separate from the rocket upon approaching the target. Iskander-M carries a complex of electronic warfare jamming devices, both passive and active, for the suppression of the enemy's radar. As such, the missile is extremely difficult to intercept with current missile defense technologies.”

  • Kinzhal and Iskander perform maneuvers throughout their entire flight paths. Gas-dynamic is just a similar fancy term called, “thrust vectoring.” This means that every stage the missile is in the directions keep changing. This makes it a difficult target to intercept because guidance systems keep getting thrown off.
  • Stealth technology with small reflecting surfaces and the usage of small fins.
  • The Iskander does not leave the atmosphere because of a flat trajectory, which might suggest the same for the Kinzhal giving it a low altitude flight ceiling.
  • The Iskander uses EW devices to suppress radars trying to track and intercept the missile.
Zircon


These are way more difficult missiles to intercept than your average boost glide vehicles. If I was to compare it to the Kinzhal it could have those features offered as well but with 3 more additional points added.

  • Lower altitudes with better ability to deal with air density and drag, which makes it a more difficult target to track for ground radars using radar horizon, or satellite systems trying to track it.
  • 1st stage brings it to its flight ceiling, but unlike ballistic missiles where no additional stages are given once they reach their flight ceilings, scramjet missiles use their 2nd stage engines throughout their entire flights meaning they have no slowdowns compared to ballistic missiles.
  • Lower altitudes and high speeds create plasma density conditions favorable for stealth making the missile a difficult target to track.
They were the 1st country to field a scramjet missile known as the kholod project which French and U.S. took part in collecting the data of the experiment. Russians have been fielding air-breathable missiles for quite a long time and have made alot of significant improvements such as if you were to look at the Brahmos-NG, Igla Scramjet models, and their Mak 2019 airshow demonstration, they have downsized their missiles, while we have left to see how far the U.S. has gone in this field of missile technology.

Russian developers to increase the speed of Zircon Missile over 10 mach

Their developers are trying to make the missile reach mach 10, and altitudes of the missiles flight ceiling have been listed at 40kms. So lets see how temperatures and altitudes effect radio waves.



Aerospaceweb.org | Atmospheric Properties Calculator

Put mach 10 for velocity, 32 degrees Fahrenheit for temperature increment and 40kms for altitude. Than the 2nd section will tell you that the total temperature for the heat shield is 5630.6759 Kelvin. And such plasma density can effect radio waves all in the fire control range. Such is the intent of why speeds for the Zircon missile for each tests keep on increasing and increasing.


https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/na...

As we can also see around 40kms or 130,000ft according to this graph the RCS conditions are favorable for the aluminum sphere being dropped going from -12 to -25 decibels. The effects of frequency wavelength for the RCS of spheres does not apply which is why they are usually used for test objects for radars most of the time. But material of an object is also import regarding RCS because one object of a similar size compared to the other might have a higher RCS because of more radio reflection.

Also the Zircon missile stays cruising at 40km altitudes, it does not drop like the sphere which the plasma conditions are always favorable for the missile. Russia’s physicists have also found a way to still communicate with objects in a high density plasma condition like re-entry vehicles.

Russian Physicists Solve Radio Black-Out Problem for Re-Entering Spacecraft

Avangard


Russia's Avangard hypersonic missile system has entered service

“Tracing its origins back to US President Ronald Reagan's 'Star Wars' space-based laser missile defence concept, the Avangard is based around a radically advanced Scramjet engine design, which enables the system to deliver both nuclear and conventional payloads at speeds of up to Mach 20.

Capable of manoeuvring while in flight, the system is essentially invulnerable to any existing or prospective missile defence system. This makes it an important element of Russia's strategic deterrent, guaranteeing a Russian response in the event of aggression against the country.”

I am not trying to add insult to injury by show a failed project that could not reach 1/3rd of its entire flight because of heat stress, but I just wanted to show that there are some similarities between the HTV-2 and Avangard. And that is one rides on top of the Minotaur 4 ICBM and the other rides on top of a R-36M2 and once they reach a 100km+ altitude in the launch phase they are released. My current problem is when either the HTV-2 or Avangard is compared to MIRV where I have a slight disagreement because of this.


MIRV gets released on re-entry. If you were to look at the flight ceiling of an ICBM they are usually around 1000kms, than after that the MIRVs will separate. But the HTV-2 and Avangard get released about 1/10th of the way before traveling 1000s of kms and to me this quite a significant difference.
 

panzerfeist1

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2020
Messages
256
Likes
415
Country flag
Burevestnik


I would not compare this missile to Project Pluto, because Project Pluto never flew it they only tested the engines. And the engines of Project Pluto were transported by train rails while Burevestnik the entire missile with the engine is transported by a wheeled cart throughout their laboratory with images displayed out in the web. Some call this a nuclear 3rd strike weapon because of its possibility to travel for days, weeks and supposedly months. There are many examples that show how advanced Russia is in harnessing nuclear energy but that will be beyond the topic discussing missiles. Also this missile is to be supported with artificial intelligence utilizing a low altitude cruise profile to avoid air defense systems.

Russia’s Unknown Missile Projects

Mini-Kinzhal


Source: 23/05/2014 Itar-Tass

A new modified aircraft missile for Russian fifth-generation fighters would be developed by 2016, the director-general of the Tactical Missiles Corporation, Boris Obnosov, said on Friday at the Kadex 2014 exhibition of weapons and military equipment in Astana, Kazakhstan.

"We have established close contact with the Sukhoi design office. A permanent working group is formed. All the protocols of informational cooperation are agreed on. Models are made according to schedule. Everything must be done by 2016," Obnosov said, noting it was a new modified aircraft cruise missile X-74M2.It was hard work. Intensity of tests was very high. Even the main test centre coped with it with difficulty, he added.
The Tactical Missiles Corporation also planned to develop the first model of a hypersonic missile by 2020, the corporation's director-general said.”


Su-57 jets will be equipped with hypersonic missiles similar to Kinzhal — source

"In accordance with Russia's State Armament Program for 2018-2027, Su-57 jet fighters will be equipped with hypersonic missiles. The jet fighters will receive missiles with characteristics similar to that of the Kinzhal missiles, but with inter-body placement and smaller size," the source said.”

I am assuming that this would be a scramjet design because air-breathable missiles from the old to the present have significantly reduced their sizes compared to ballistic missiles. And it seems they have plans for fitting them inside the SU-57 so that stealth can be utilized to avoid nearby sources before launching them giving air defenses a less reaction time if it was a regular aircraft carrying it instead.

IFRK DP


Одним Махом: Россия разрабатывает оружие против гиперзвуковых ракет

“ An ordinary anti-aircraft missile has one warhead,” he told Izvestia. - The probability of a miss on a hypersonic maneuvering target is very high. But if one ammunition carries several homing shells, then the chances of hitting a high-speed object increase significantly.

According to the expert, in the case of firing IFRK DP at hypersonic targets, all warheads will be displayed at a pre-calculated point on the trajectory of a flying munition and attack it in the forehead. The use of ultra-long-range missiles will expand the area of destruction of the interceptor.

Especially effective is the use of the complex during aircraft operations as part of a single information space. Aerial targets, cruise or hypersonic missiles can be detected by ground-based radars, early warning radars, or an attack warning system. The fighter will only need to launch an ultra-long-range missile in the desired area. At the same time, the interceptor will not have to risk it himself, entering into an air battle."

There is a good reason why I put a honey bee nest to represent this unknown missile. This ultra-long range air to air missile is to have a range of several hundred kms being carried by the Mig-41. The K-77Ms are said to be candidates of being attached to this missile and their ranges included are like 193kms. To me this is like throwing a hornet’s nest at the aerial target, but instead of angry wasps you get several medium range air to air missiles coming at you.





This is my latest updates on all the hypersonic missile projects.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
Lockheed Martin releases image of its super fast weapon: AGM-183A


Pentagon’s No.1 weapons supplier Lockheed Martin Corp has released the image of its super-fast or hypersonic weapon system, called the AGM-183A Air Launched Rapid Response Weapon, or ARRW.

As one of two rapid prototyping hypersonic efforts, ARRW is set to reach early operational capability by fiscal year 2022.

https://defence-blog.com/news/lockheed-martin-releases-image-of-its-super-fast-weapon.html
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
US New Hypersonic Interceptor Design Limited To Ship Launch

The Regional Glide Phase Weapon System (RGPWS)—a concept for an interceptor against a hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV)—will be initially constrained to a ship launch application with a Mk. 41 vertical launch system, Missile Defense Agency (MDA) Director Vice Adm. Jon Hill said March 4.

The previously undisclosed design constraint for RGPWS represents the U.S. Navy’s common tube shared by several ship-launched ballistic and cruise missiles, allowing the MDA to “proliferate that capability” rapidly across the fleet, Hill said, speaking at the McAleese Defense Programs Conference in Washington.

MDA plans to expand the RGPWS later to airborne- and land-launched applications, Hill said.

Aerospace DAILY first reported the existence of the RGPWS program in December. The new interceptor program emerged as Russia and China field new HGVs designed to evade the Ballistic Missile Defense System and regional defenses by flying beneath and around sensors and interceptor sites.

MDA has disclosed plans to field the weapon in the mid- to late-2020s. The idea is that HGVs, though fast and maneuverable, are most vulnerable during the glide phase, so the RGPWS will be designed to intercept them long before they approach their targets and enter a final dive.

A prerequisite for the RGPWS is a new sensor system that can detect launches of HGVs deep within enemy territory and cue land- and sea-based sensors for tracking. MDA is working with the Space Development Agency to field the Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Sensor System within three years.

https://aviationweek.com/defense-sp...rsonic-interceptor-design-limited-ship-launch

Now this is the most cutting edge ABM/anti-hypersonic defense anywhere.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
The US Army And US Navy Have Conducted The First Joint Test Of Common Hypersonic Glide Body vehicle (C-HGB)






A launch took place at the Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii at approximately 10:30 PM local time on Mar. 19. A ground-launched rocket booster propelled the Common Hypersonic Glide Body vehicle, or C-HGB, to the desired speed and altitude, after which it "flew at hypersonic speed to a designated impact point," according to a Pentagon statement. The announcement did not say how fast the vehicle flew or how far, but hypersonic speed is defined as being above Mach 5 and the Pentagon said that the new weapons could enable the Army and the Navy to quickly "strike targets hundreds and even thousands of miles away."

Interestingly, the Missile Defense Agency was also involved in the test launch from the Pacific Missile Range Facility on Mar. 19. MDA "monitored and gathered tracking data from the flight experiment that will inform its ongoing development of systems designed to defend against adversary hypersonic weapons," according to the Pentagon statement.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...rst-joint-test-of-their-new-hypersonic-weapon
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
US has done same too. It pushed immature f35 in service which resulted in severe hypoxia in many pilots. Thankfully no one died.
Hypoxia happened also in older fighters not just the F-35. And the thing is until now the US DOD has not yet been able to pinpoint its cause.

Second, F-35 is not rushed into service. It's developed under a new development and production system known as concurrency which is turning out to be too complex. But there is no rush to declare the fighter in FOC to score PR points. In fact the US Government and US DOD are very public about F-35s nagging defects. All these F-35 defenciencies we learned from GAO and other US Government and DOD audit bodies whoch publicises their findings. The US Government and DOD are exercising max pressure on LM to fix the defects, fix its maintenance system, lower its operating cost, and at the same time implement upgrades.

As far as I know the US DOD has not yet declared FOC on any F-35 model. It has declsted IOC on the F-35As and Bs though. So you have this even without FOC....

 

Craigs

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2016
Messages
1,402
Likes
3,382
Country flag
Hypoxia happened also in older fighters not just the F-35. And the thing is until now the US DOD has not yet been able to pinpoint its cause.

Second, F-35 is not rushed into service. It's developed under a new development and production system known as concurrency which is turning out to be too complex. But there is no rush to declare the fighter in FOC to score PR points. In fact the US Government and US DOD are very public about F-35s nagging defects. The US Government and DOD are exercising max pressure on LM to fix the defects, fix its maintenance system, lower its operating cost, and at the same time implement upgrades.

As far as I know the US DOD has not yet declared FOC on any F-35 model. It has declsted IOC on the F-35As and Bs though. So you have this even without FOC....

Holy cow, the absolute magnificence of bombing an enemy to smithereens with a stealth aircraft when the enemy has no radar and no way to shoot back either. Only USA can put up a propaganda movie like this for F35. :hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,556
Country flag
Holy cow, the absolute magnificence of bombing an enemy to smithereens with a stealth aircraft when the enemy has no radar and no way to shoot back either. Only USA can put up a propaganda movie like this for F35. :hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:
That's one use of F-35 in case you're wondering, attacking ground targets of all types from the terrorist type to the most cutting edge type.

With IOC though the F-35 at the moment can only attack the terrorost types...
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top