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I always wondered why Owasis has 3 cell phones, look at that picture!!
One for each wife or something even more sinister?
One for each wife or something even more sinister?
I am not sure about Hezbullah making a statement in favor of India on Kashmir either. However, praising the Indian army on Indian soil by Hezbullah where even Pakistani delegates were invited would be a cause of heart burn. Here is an organization that is popular because it ostensibly was the only organization to defeat the Israeli army and it is praising the Indian army which is suppose to be oppressing and butchering people in Kashmir. I would completely understand Pakistanis getting agitated over that.Ejaz,
Thanks for the reply, quite helpful in getting a hang of things there.
When I said, a statement in favour of Kashmir, I meant a statement which favored the Indian stand. Now it makes me recall that because Pakistanis back then were very agitated and were cursing Hezbollah for the statement made. Was it only limited to India or it included Kashmir as well, I don't quite recall.
I, at least, remain a very strong advocate of we maintaining strong relations where we have had traditional relations, during the cold war days, or much earlier and simultaneously develop friendlier ties in newer territories, and balance them out and not get caught in the politics of taking sides as some countries want us to, certainly not till the time when we have no other option but to take a pick.
Talking about our foreign policy, one thing stands out for UPA, much like NDA, they have done well on the front.
Why this picture came out, well, wont be surprised if it has to do with the recent blast in Delhi targeting the Israeli diplomat's wife, and the media campaign since.
My friend, JuD is a banned group under UNSC resolutions. Hezbullah for better or for worse is not. And only a handful of Western and Arab countries(Egypt and Bahrain and I may add secretly the other GCC states) treat the entire organization as a terrorist organization.Yeah its a political party with an armed militia that has been involved in numerous cases of terrorist acts, suicide bombings against Israeli civilians. By that logic you can say JuD is a charity group.
And it was stupid of the Indian Govt to send a representative to meet them even if one part of them is a legitimate political group.
How would you feel if some foreign country sent a representative to meet Syed Salahuddin and pledged solidarity with him ? I, for one, would be pissed off.
@Mad IndianI dont know if it is OT But here is what i found in net....
Middle-East-Info.org - Arabs and Muslims in Israel
Interesting to know that most Arabs want to stay in Israel...... Any way Cheerios....:thumb::thumb:
And this is what is possibly the Palestinian game plan.The other thing that many progressive Israelis and Jewish diaspora realise is the demographics. In the historic Palestine region, there is only a 15-20 year time period before the Christian and Muslim Arab populations become a majority. Once that happens, it would be better for Palestinians to say that we don't want an independent state. We will remain within Israel but we want to be treated as equal citizens with equal voting rights. It would be similar to movement by Nelson Mandela in South Africa against apartheid and would be devastating for the Jewish identity of Israel when we have a single state solution with Jews and Palestinans with equal voting rights.
So even with Israeli interests and well wishers in mind and given the above two incentives, it would be in the best interests of Israel herself to establish a Palestinian state before the demographics make it impossible to do so.
No what i meant was that people start to like you if there is fairness in governance and a good economy.... when some asked an Arab, where do you want to be whether in Israel or in Palestine(But honestly dont know if he was a citizen or a non citizen), he said of course Israel, "i may be an arab but i am not stupid".....@Mad Indian
I think most people forget that when we talk about Arabs in this conflict, there are two categories.
In "proper Israel" or the pre-1967 Israel, Arabs there are regarded as Israeli citizens. They comprise about 20% of the Israeli population but do have the right to vote and elect members in the Israeli parliament. On top of that, they have their ancestral land in this region and none of these people despite any problems they face do not want to vacate and leave these lands.
In West Bank and Gaza, you have the non-Israeli or alternatively the Palestinian Arabs (both Christians and Muslims). These people do not have any voting rights and live under military rule where the Israeli army is responsible for most of the day to day functioning. Settlements blocs have also been created in these areas which are isolated clusters where only Jewish settlers are allowed to live and is an ongoing source of tensions.
Arabs form a majority in this region comprising 80-90% of the population. It is in this region, that a future state of Palestine would be established and would be in the best interest of both the Israelis and the Palestinians. After all, for how long can you keep millions of people under your control and either (1) not free them to establish a state of their own or (2) give them equal voting rights and make them equal citizens.
Option (2) would end the Jewish identity and so (1) is the best option for Israelis and the sooner the better for everyone involved.