How will the World Benefit with China as a Superpower?

[civfanatic]

WWII? Started from helping germany rebuild their industry, then Nazi army. After the whole erupe was exhausted by this devile, the US came in as a world savor.

Korea, Vietnam? you must be kidding me! Protect a dictator from another dictator.

Kosovo? Wow, protect a group of terrorists from another group of terrorists by bombing civilians?





I just can't believe you said that! When the terrorists relocated to Iraq? AFTER US LIBERATION! Yes, I saw the people throwing flowers and I also saw a lot more people dying under American tanks, including children and women.
When Saddam gased those kurds, guess which country veto UN's bill against this behavior? US!



Yes, after they realised that Mubarak lost all his power.





Well, what I saw here is that you are the one to be too naive to understand the real politics.

By the way, as a chinese, I don't think that the world would not benefit from China's rising at the beginning stage. Because any power's rise means some of other countries' down, just like mexican and south americas suffered during US' rising.

There is not point arguing, he will just say the U.S. did all these things because it loves all people everywhere and wants democracy to flourish (lol).

 

[kickok1975]

China is and always been a great country, just like India. But we never and not willing to call us super power. We would rather people call us one of the oldest and greatest civilizations in the world. Let someone else keep that super power title. Today's China could become a even better place when Chinese people have more freedom to think, speak and live.

 

[asianobserve]

"World's greatest civilization" the 21st century term for "superpower." The change of term in made necessary upon China's demand...

 

[asianobserve]

"World's greatest civilization" the 21st century term for "superpower." The change of term in made necessary upon China's demand...

 

[niharjhatn]

Adding a term like "superpower" and "first world"/"third world"/"developing" does not mean much. 50, 60 years ago even before China had this preeminent superpower status, China still did what it wanted without too much concern of international status, and recent events do not stand contrary. The combustible combination of arrogance/pride/belligerence has always been there with China, hence, I see little real change occurring, although the solidifying of new western and eastern blocs may be interesting.

On a slightly different perspective, the transformations within China itself will be interesting. Infiltration of more democratic ideals perhaps?

One aspect in my mind that has always epitomised superpowers is their ability to attract significant migration, and we will see in the coming years whether or not this occurs with China, and the potential consequences.

Personally, any migration to/from China will be a good thing, as the sort of veil the Chinese have constructed can be better penetrated, and a glimpse offered at the Chinese people. People (non-Chinese) often discuss "China" but fail to remember that they are really discussing the CCP, which does not necessarily reflect the attitudes of the people. Migration plus better democratic ideals will not only help in penetrating the veil but may also start a greater say that the people have in their government's actions, and may help curb some of the perceived combative stance the CCP often portrays to other nations.

 

[mattster]

Don't you mean forceful liberations specially in the oil rich regions?


US has also toppled many democracies and installed puppets and in many cases the people installed were dictators. The most recent example is US invading Iraq first based upon lies then changed it to freedom and democracy but kept mum when the Egyptian people demanded "Mubarak must go". Not once did US asked Mubarak to step for freedom and democracy because it did not suit US interest.


Let me ask you the same question. How does US sees Saudi Arabia an authoritative dictatorship regime as role model for Middle East that it keeps supporting and allies itself with? If United States really would have believed in bringing freedom and democracy it would have never allied itself with regimes like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, Uganda, Kazakhstan to name a few.

Guys........I am almost 100% sure from the way he writes and his subtle grammatical mistakes that Mr. Anonymous is a Chinaman masquerading with an Indian Flag. I dont care where anybody is from but why fly an Indian flag when you are from China.

If you look carefully at his English...its typical of Chinese english.

So Mr.Anonymous - whats your real flag.

 

[AOE]

Here is my honest reply

I agree partially with you in some respects it will not be good but the actions of US in recent times too Afghanistan, Iraq etc also indicate agressive, imperialistic (with bases allover the world) policies. Furthermore, with rise of Russia or China as a superpower there will be an equal footing and balance of power in the world. US will not be able to dictate around other countries as it wishes and falsely topple any countries, invade illegaly other countries as it did in Iraq. If China has 1 party then in US the major power only changes hand by two parties Republicans and Democrats. Also a keynote US is not a democracy but a republic.

I ask a very basic question and instead get a response more about the US than the question itself with non-sequiturs sprinkled in. It is clear that responding was a mistake, as I cannot even get you to admit something basic that the rise of the PRC has been and continues to be a threat to the region, but I get a response that ignores this point and instead tries to play the card that having a multipolar world will be good for the rest of us. Clearly you haven't heard of WWI, WWII, or the Cold War.

 

[AOE]

Also this idea that all westerners hold that WE wont be here if not for Western technology is some what sounds very condescending, like we where all stuck in an miserable hell and everything is Ok now that we have Coca Cola and Telephones or everyone in the west is happy because they bought a new car? Do material stuff make people happy, does longer life make people happy? Does it make some one in Sydney more happy than an Aboriginal in the desert? not the ones who are inflicted with alcoholism, i mean the untouched ones.

I wasn't intentionally trying to be condescending, but in some parts of the world; people did have almost nothing before they had access or means to gain broader capital. This kind of response was more aimed at those who seem to endlessly whine about the US and its mistakes, but rarely ever acknowledge the good they have achieved in the past. You can even note this in the disproportionate responses I am getting, many of which are ignoring the point, or are purely rhetorical.

If someone wants to give up all their material possessions and live in a tribal environment, I have no objections to it, and most people who live here will be with me on this.

 

[Anonymous]

Guys........I am almost 100% sure from the way he writes and his subtle grammatical mistakes that Mr. Anonymous is a Chinaman masquerading with an Indian Flag. I dont care where anybody is from but why fly an Indian flag when you are from China.

If you look carefully at his English...its typical of Chinese english.

So Mr.Anonymous - whats your real flag.

Chinese English...hmm we learn something new everyday. Maybe it's time I should start talking
"Yarrrrrr!!.. How can I be helpin ya tday matey" to sound alike a Irish or

"Gday mate! Fancy a chat, mate? It's bloody ace. Good on ya. Hooroo!" abbreviation to sound like an Australian or

'Allo guvna. Fancy a Jackie for ya ol' trombone? A'right, mate. See you at the bath. to sound more like an Englishmen or

"Well howdy partner! Yeeeeeeeehaaaawww!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck Yeah America!!" to sound like an American.

To answer your question physically I'm in India and that's my nationality. Thank you for telling me I'm not an Indian. Now I'm sure you will want me to post my Voters ID card, Passport copy or my Driving License or heck my PAN card to prove who I am..right? If you can post your Social Secuirty Number, you'r ID card plus other personal details proving you are American I will reciprocate too. Heck I will even come down to meet you anywhere in South Delhi if you post your details (I will bring a Indian police escort too..atleast I'll request one from my nearest police station since America has a habit of kidnapping foreign nationals and sending them to jails illegally..you know you can never be too safe) . How does that sound? If you cant I'll just use your logic and "assume" like you that you are not an American either and is falsely using a American flag and is actually one of the paid sock puppet of US administration ( Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media ).

Enjoy yer sunny day pal'..Yeeehaaww!

 

[Anonymous]

I ask a very basic question and instead get a response more about the US than the question itself with non-sequiturs sprinkled in. It is clear that responding was a mistake, as I cannot even get you to admit something basic that the rise of the PRC has been and continues to be a threat to the region,

China is not a threat to the region because it stops US from illegally invading countries in Asia.

Clearly you haven't heard of WWI, WWII, or the Cold War.

You are right I haven't heard how IBM , General Motors, Henry Ford, Standard Oil to name a few were helping Nazi Germany. I need to learn more about that.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

I wasn't intentionally trying to be condescending, but in some parts of the world; people did have almost nothing before they had access or means to gain broader capital. This kind of response was more aimed at those who seem to endlessly whine about the US and its mistakes, but rarely ever acknowledge the good they have achieved in the past. You can even note this in the disproportionate responses I am getting, many of which are ignoring the point, or are purely rhetorical.

If someone wants to give up all their material possessions and live in a tribal environment, I have no objections to it, and most people who live here will be with me on this.

The people who had nothing, still have nothing and they dont care much for the lip gloss life style the west wants them to have. I really dont care for this modern day life style, i dont give a dam if people go to the moon or say crap through latest cell phone. Your going to die weather you live in a high tech city or a tribal village. You invent technologies so that you feel secure and happy in your life, there is no other reason for that. Weather someone wants to know if God created man or man came from the stars its all the same need to feel secure through knowledge. If people go right to the happiness instead of the seeking for security then this game is meaningless. Its childish game the west is playing.

 

[satish007]

China hard to be superpower, Chinese are hard working guys, smart, making living. But God knows if they can resolve the corruption problem. Every year , instead of saving money to Swiz bank(Indian officers like), Chinese officers sending their family and money to US.

 

[civfanatic]

Guys........I am almost 100% sure from the way he writes and his subtle grammatical mistakes that Mr. Anonymous is a Chinaman masquerading with an Indian Flag. I dont care where anybody is from but why fly an Indian flag when you are from China.

If you look carefully at his English...its typical of Chinese english.

So Mr.Anonymous - whats your real flag.

What a pathetic mindset you have. Anyone who does not conform to your views is a 'Chinaman'?

Why do you fly an American flag when you aren't American?

 

[Zebra]

I think in future the world will have three super powers US , Russia and China .
There will be three groups of countries like with US , second with Russia and few with China . In Asia most of countries will be with Russia or US . So it will be hard time for China in Asia .

 

[asianobserve]

Going back to the main question, I think the benefits are clear, cheap knock off Ipads, Ipods and Iphones from China!

 

[niharjhatn]

Going back to the main question, I think the benefits are clear, cheap knock off Ipads, Ipods and Iphones from China!

Yes, unfortunately, whilst China, India and others could have been pillars to each other and other asian nations to pull Asia up to the level of the west, the number of ensuing squabbles ensure this will never happen.

 

[Tshering22]

Yes, unfortunately, whilst China, India and others could have been pillars to each other and other asian nations to pull Asia up to the level of the west, the number of ensuing squabbles ensure this will never happen.

That is what happens when commies come to power.

 

[Param]

I think in future the world will have three super powers US , Russia and China .
There will be three groups of countries like with US , second with Russia and few with China . In Asia most of countries will be with Russia or US . So it will be hard time for China in Asia .

Hey what about us, the would be Sooopper power?

 

[Godless-Kafir]

The other day i saw rich people sitting in MacDonalds and spending hundreds to by a BUCKET of chicken, while on the same road i saw an poor guy selling florescent lamps, teddy bears, toys all made in China!!! It made me wonder what exactly are we gaining from the US as an Super Power? Apart from Coke and Pepsi they give nothing that helps you on the long run. The cheap Chinese stuff would help that poor man to get a meal if he sold a something!!

I know we are enemies with China but with all due respect this is a crazy world where your enemy can be your friend and your friend can be your worst blood sucking leech!

 

[Yusuf]

Philosophical GK, consumerism is the answer. We love the Macs, the cokes, the fried chicken. The bloody Chinese bulb would not last too long and you will end up cursing the poor fella who sold one to you.