How will IA perform in urban combat

[acetophenol]

lets assume IA in a mogadishu like situation. Our mbts cannot be used there as its too big. Our lsv,the gypsies will be useless as it is unarmoured. Please post ur expert views.kindly excuse my
Language as i am frm my cell phone

 

[Iamanidiot]

MOUT where the only possible place for MOUT is Lawhore

 

[Naren1987]

lets assume IA in a mogadishu like situation. Our mbts cannot be used there as its too big. Our lsv,the gypsies will be useless as it is unarmoured. Please post ur expert views.kindly excuse my
Language as i am frm my cell phone

Not too well, I'm arfaid, you need really specialized training for that, and looking at the way, the NSG handled the Taj attack, I sure hope we're investing more into our training, because we'll need it.

 

[acetophenol]

26/11 can't be classified as an urban combat scenario. My question is what if we attack some natiøn and what will we do in their cities and small
Streets?

 

[HeinzGud]

India should learn from Sri Lankan Army. We are urban and jungle warfare specialists!

 

[Naren1987]

26/11 can't be classified as an urban combat scenario. My question is what if we attack some natiøn and what will we do in their cities and small
Streets?

Not too well, those are the worst type of situations soldiers can find themselves in.
Mogadishu is regarded by the Yanks as a disaster, and the soldiers who fought in Somalia were the cream of the US Army.
We need to invest more in our infantry's training and equipment, because I'm not sure we'd rate even a 2 out of 10 in these fields.

 

[Iamanidiot]

If not a hostage situation surround the city and starve them of water and rations .Lawhore is the only place where such a situation might occur

 

[plugwater]

India should learn from Sri Lankan Army. We are urban and jungle warfare specialists!

Yeah, thats why you were raped by LTTE.

Kindly search some info about who is getting training from whom before posting crap.

 

[acetophenol]

we need armoured light specialist vehicles for such kinda situation. The closest one in service is mahendra rakshak and marksman.
Whats up with axe? Any info
On windy 505?

 

[Galaxy]

India should learn from Sri Lankan Army. We are urban and jungle warfare specialists!

Indian Army is one of the best in jungle warfare. Have you heard name of CIJW and Kaziranga Special Jungle Warfare Training School ?

IA peacemaking troops were also one of the reason for fall of LTTE.

 

[Bhadra]

MOUT where the only possible place for MOUT is Lawhore

Why? There small and large towns all along the India Pakistan borders and defences of Pakis would be organised around those built-up areas.

Why do we keep talking about Lahore only. Main task of IA is to liberate Lhasa.

 

[HeinzGud]

Yeah, thats why you were raped by LTTE.

Kindly search some info about who is getting training from whom before posting crap.

Well what about their experience collected so far....... specially Special Forces regiment and Commando unit.

 

[Iamanidiot]

Why? There small and large towns all along the India Pakistan borders and defences of Pakis would be organised around those built-up areas.

Why do we keep talking about Lahore only. Main task of IA is to liberate Lhasa.

We are eons away from that capability

 

[HeinzGud]

Indian Army is one of the best in jungle warfare specialists. Have you heard name of CIJW and Kaziranga Special Jungle Warfare Training School ?

IA peacemaking troops were also one of the reason for fall of LTTE.

Yeah that's why IA failed to capture Nithaykayakulam reservoir bunt for months of effort! in 1990 from LTTE

BTW SL commando unit captured it within weeks.

 

[JBH22]

The only two combat situation where armies were embroiled in real urban combat recently is the attack on Grozny (Russian Army) and Fallujah (US army)

From the Grozny situation we learned that sending tanks in an urban setting without proper infantry support is suicide.
Infantry must be equipped with anti-material sniper rifles (12.7mm type like the OSV-96 or Baretta 82) next refers to armoured personal carriers are useless unless the Heavy APC like the Russian BMP-T or the BTR-T.
Additional consideration should be taken to secure supply lines where the enemy can use sewers for striking in the rear.


From Fallujah massive use of air power is a solution to reduce casualty but then collateral damage is there, US also came to same conclusion as Russian with the introduction of TUSK upgrade for the Abrams tank. Snipers have played great role for demoralising enemy combatants.


As to India we have a wide technological gap between the above mentioned armies, neither do we have sufficient anti material rifles, nor something like Heavy APCs neither dedicated air support like SU-25 or A-10,in short we are fvked up if we have to take an enemy who is fanatically devoted to defend his city

 

[Bhadra]

India should learn from Sri Lankan Army. We are urban and jungle warfare specialists!

Again trolling?
SLA could never ever enter Vanni for years together ! Any one who entered Vanni never returned. IA reached all over Vanni in days !
SLA Inhumanly Bombed out the shit of Yalpanam. Could not go any where from KKS where they cameand went by air and sea only.

 

[hitesh]

They will perform very well -
the plot- indian army special ops group receives inputs about possible meeting taking place b/w terror operatives & orders are to capture them alive . Special forces will insert into the area from MI17, create a secure perimeter byputting down any threat that comes on way then signal to regular infantry to move in by land transport the prisoners on TATRA 8x8 trucks & BMP while LCH provides air cover .

Weaponry & logistics- :cool2:indian army special forces weapons includes - NVG,Tar21 5.56mm ,Galial sniper rifle,carlgustav 84mm RCL gun ,TATRA8x8 trucks for carrying IA infantry troops & prisoners ,BMP APC to provide protection to trucks, windy500 4x4 or mahindra rakash jeeps mounted with Heavy machine gun's , LCH/hind gunship to provide air cover ,MI17 for special forces insertion .

Militia forces weapons includes -AK74's ,AKU ,RPG ,HMG mounted on suv's

 

[HeinzGud]

Again trolling?
SLA could never ever enter Vanni for years together ! Any one who entered Vanni never returned. IA reached all over Vanni in days !
SLA Inhumanly Bombed out the shit of Yalpanam. Could not go any where from KKS where they cameand went by air and sea only.

What??? are you dreaming???? did IA use speed of light crafts for that!

 

[JBH22]

Guys stop trolling let's get back to topic instead of stupid diCk measuring contest

 

[Bhadra]

The only two combat situation where armies were embroiled in real urban combat recently is the attack on Grozny (Russian Army) and Fallujah (US army)

From the Grozny situation we learned that sending tanks in an urban setting without proper infantry support is suicide.
Infantry must be equipped with anti-material sniper rifles (12.7mm type like the OSV-96 or Baretta 82) next refers to armoured personal carriers are useless unless the Heavy APC like the Russian BMP-T or the BTR-T.
Additional consideration should be taken to secure supply lines where the enemy can use sewers for striking in the rear.


From Fallujah massive use of air power is a solution to reduce casualty but then collateral damage is there, US also came to same conclusion as Russian with the introduction of TUSK upgrade for the Abrams tank. Snipers have played great role for demoralising enemy combatants.


As to India we have a wide technological gap between the above mentioned armies, neither do we have sufficient anti material rifles, nor something like Heavy APCs neither dedicated air support like SU-25 or A-10,in short we are fvked up if we have to take an enemy who is fanatically devoted to defend his city

Tactics and technology have still not found an answer to Tukhachewasky's urban hold of Stalingrad and how Polus sixth Army vanished there. The other classic example being battle for Berlin.