How to repeal Article-370?

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  1. Jackd

    Jackd Regular Member

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    States that have a bicameral legislature, like UP, don't grant much power to Vidhan parishad or Legislative council. They are just a way to make losers in MLA elections feel happy and they have no say(vote) in elections to RS.
     
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  2. G10

    G10 Regular Member

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    Why not partition jk into separate Kashmir Ladhak and Jammu states. Article 370 and 35a can be limited to just Kashmir.
     
  3. HariPrasad-1

    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    The best way to do it is to get some good guys from within who can openly demand the revocation of 35A and 370. Who have the guts to take on Hurriyat and other fundamentalist people of Kashmir.
     
  4. G10

    G10 Regular Member

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    Political Parties from Jammu and ladhak do. But as usual their population is less and as time goes by Kashmiri Muslim population particularly extremist kind is increasing. This stalemate isn’t going to achieve anything.
     
  5. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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  6. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    It is a good idea to separate Jammu and Laddakh from Kashmir but I think it will require majority approval from Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha.
     
  7. Flame Thrower

    Flame Thrower Senior Member Senior Member

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    That is a very bad idea.

    It will cost us Kashmir Valley.

    Right now, Jammu and Ladakh will act as counterweight to Kashmir Valley's stupid screaming. If they're separated, then things will be far worse than we can imagine.

    You remember post Buruan Wani's death, that would be nothing compared to what will happen after creating a seperate state for Kashmir Valley
     
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  8. prasadr14

    prasadr14 PrasadReddy Senior Member

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    That's not what's happening now!
    Most of the money is going into the sink hole of valley where as Jammu & Ladakh are being squeezed out.

    It's time to call this bluff of threat and take then head on.

    Things might get worse but realize that they get much much worse for the Jihadis.
     
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  9. Flame Thrower

    Flame Thrower Senior Member Senior Member

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    Money can go down the sink, if seperated then what we loose is more than just money.

    Ok. Let's hear your argument and anyone supporting separation of Kashmir Valley arguments as well!!??

    What are you planning to achieve by separating Kashmir Valley!!??

    1. Does it solve the problem of terrorists coming in Kashmir Valley!!??

    2. Does it solve the problem/reduce of "Aazadi ka matlab kya hai -- Lahi Lahi Illallah" slogans!?

    3. Does it solve the problem of traitors flying Pakistani flag!!??

    4. Does it help GOI/Govt of Srinagar to control KV properly!?

    5. Does trade and tourisn would come back to Valley!!??

    6. Does Pak stop sending non state actors and raising UN issue(since new state formed because GOI can't control, they might go ahead and push for new country) UN would be truly worried and even may start rethinking of meddling Kashmir Issue.

    7. Does newly formed govt in Srinagar will toe the line with GOI!?

    8. Does forming new state reduces our armed forces problems in Valley!!??

    9. What about the financials!? Since the separation was formed to save some money, I believe no special funds would go to newly formed Kashmir Valley state. How will they survive with their poor economy!? Do you plan on supporting Kashmir Valley state economy with GOI funds or allow them to starvation and eventually an outburst leading to even greater clashes!!?? Can you name one instance where starvation wasn't a problem before occurrence of any revolution!?

    Let's see what your answers are....Then we can decide whether you really understand what you've meant "things will get much worse"
     
  10. Tibarn

    Tibarn Dharmic Nationalist

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    I think even if BJP gets sufficient majority in both houses, the matter will get stuck in court for years. The court will keep delaying the judgement on one pretext or another.
     
  11. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    Court does not have authority to interfere with parliamentary proceedings. It is the parliament which passes new laws. They are the law maker.
     
  12. G10

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    Muslim population is increasing. These people now chanting azadi in Delhi. They have to be curtailed to smallest region possible.
     
  13. Tibarn

    Tibarn Dharmic Nationalist

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    I understand that, but I was trying to talk about how if any action is taken, the court can review the action, once a case if filed.

    If 370 is repealed, there for sure will be an immediate case filed arguing that repealing 370 is against the constitution.
     
  14. indus

    indus Living in Post Truth Senior Member

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    I have a different question. What kind of uprising or revolt is being threatened by the pak-sold politicians. Will the NC, PDP netas, supporters also pick up guns and wage Jihad. Havent we faced greater odds in valley like 90s era or Kargil, yet JnK remained a part of India. And still does. What are the odds we would have to face.? How much of their threats are real. :confused1:
     
  15. arya

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    we have to remove it yes it will make sound but slowly slowly everything will be normal . they are doing arm twisting with govt .

    Court should give clear order to remove 35a 370 , arrest those who cross lines . we have to ready for some sound . Media should be out from kashmir for at least 3 months .
     
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    Tarikh pe tarikh. Hearing on 35A adjourned till 27th of this month.
     
  17. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    Court can only deliberate on existing laws. It cannot deliberate on laws that don't exist.
     
  18. Tibarn

    Tibarn Dharmic Nationalist

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    Again, I already understand that...

    Article 370 isn't a normal "law", it is an article in the constitution. Involvement in constitutional matters is already in the SC's purview.
     
  19. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    That is not correct.

    Court can only deliberate on laws that exist. It has no basis to deliberate on a law that does not exist. Article 370 is a law. Court can deliberate on it as long as it exists. Once the said law has been revoked, court will have no basis for deliberation on it.
     
  20. Anish Pai

    Anish Pai New Member

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    Its a very difficult way to repeal it as the provision sif Art 370 says the method to repeal it.

    Section 3 says the president can make it illegal only after the approval of the state constituent assembly, which doesnt exist, so if the state legislature is the constituent assembly, it can give the notification and president can do it.

    But also if once says that it ca be done, they wont do it for obvious reasons, the parliament is supreme in law making can remove 370 from the constitution which will need 2/3 majority in both houses and 50% states ratification
     

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