How to fight terror against India?

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  1. saty

    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Yes you are right to some extent I respect Hitler&Mao,they did some mistakes but Mohammad is the worst person in the history of mankind.Disgusting filthy creature. :mad2:

    “He has forbidden you only dead animals, and blood, and the swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for other than God.” (Quran 2:173)

    Quran 6: 145 when God says, in reference to the flesh of swine (pig), “for that surely is impure”


    The pig is one of the oldest forms of livestock, having been domesticated as early as 5000 BC.[2] It is believed to have been domesticated either in the Near East or in China from the wild boar.

    See above Islam never ever accepted in China... Even in India mogul's banned cow slaughter to gain Hindu's trust (No Beef in kuran) but Pig case is altogether different matter.

    Chinese are heavy Pork-vorous.So no chance for Islam except changes in quran.
     
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    Screambowl Ghanta Senior Member? Senior Member

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    if that person and his generals succeeded in infiltrating your society then it is your failure. Cursing doesn't help. We should have had an asoka during Islam was on rise politically.
     
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    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Idiot even muslims butchering each other.Sunni vs Sunni Vs Shia Vs Ahamdi Vs Sufi Vs Bairaveli Vs Deobandi and so on............. but they say their ummaha (brother hood) is great and THEY ARE ONE why because all sects follow ONE GOD, ONE BOOK and ONE POPPET. :pound:
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    I say, and this is my personal view, of all 73 sects of islam, Sufism is best. Unfortunately there was no Sufi emperor in indian sub-continent..but our land is replete with tombs of Sufi saints, poets and mystics. Babur was an admirer of Sufism but himself was a Sunni. Sufism had great impact in Gujarat & Bengal and went parallel with 'Bhakti' movement of Hinduism. Even Bollywood is enamoured of Sufism. Count how many khwaja-maula songs have been churned out.
    Communists, however, laugh away Sufism as ' culture of muslim beggars'...
     
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    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Sufis also strongly believes 'Hate book' Quran&Pedo Poppet, who ever believes these two are potential terrorists.Period.

    Hitler&Mao nurtured few music bands&singers too :p
     
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    I don't know which Muslim you are talking about. But I have seen refugees myself. Well many are quite literate and some are really too much bhaiya types. They asked me if I am Arabi or Afghani, I said, no I am Hindi ( geographically Indian) so he asked Musalman? I said No, Hindu ..

    Some are still in that mindset of Muslim unity and this will not go so easily.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    What music and song got to do with religious principles?
    Doesn't hindoo fundoo get inspired by Vande Mataram? Sufis believed in Quran & Hadith but were receptive to hindu philosophy also. In that sense they are the true face of moderate muslim.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    What is happening in mid & far east? Is it not muzzies butchering muzzies? Iran-Iraq was not Shia-Sunni war?
     
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    Few Nazis saved jews and many Maoists helped poor people too :p

    The issue here is death cult creating problems for every one &every where...reason 'Quran', either totally banned or send all Muslims to their 72 goats then only we can achieve some peace.
     
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    what is happening there is their problem. In India it's all different
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    Agreed. But even Mao and Hitler believed in eliminating non-corformists. They executed lakhs...
     
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    Don't waste your time on USA/Zionism/Shia/Kalam/Saudi-Iran proxy war/ISIS-talib-Let-boko-hamas/Secular/Pakis/Politics/Sufis/moderate muslims and their Wives&kids etc etc.

    Stick to one SINGLE point 'QURAN-the hate book', the mother of all evils was COMPILED by a TERRORIST,PYSCHO,PEDO,MURDERER & LIAR Mohammad.
     
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    Sufism was not a real sect, it was a small cooked up sect which was artificially manufactured to serve as part of Islam's diplomatic outreach. There was no Sufi emperor in India because there was never a Sufi emperor in the history of humanity. It was simply a propaganda department created to whitewash the brutal image of Islam. Even 'secular' Akbar slaughtered 6 lakh Hindus while still being under the influence of Sufi saint Mounundin Chisti.

    Have you ever seen photographs of American soldiers distributing food to poor Afghans? that's basically what Sufism was : an obfuscation of the invader's real intent. Do you ever wonder why there is an American empire but no such thing as a kingdom of 'philanthropic empire' anywhere on the planet, despite seeing so many images of american philanthropy? No? Because that would be stupid, right? it's the same with Sufism. It's not real, it's just obscurantism. It was just a medieval way to conduct diplomacy. Just a few months ago, a popular Sufi has announced a reward for the head of Kamlesh Tiwari. That's Sufism. It's a cloak for Wahhabis to be wolf in sheep's clothing.

    I'm pasting below, a useful compilation made by an IPS officer (Ram Ohri) which I found quite interesting. It will help you widen your understanding of this sham called Sufism.

    1. Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti of Ajmer had accompanied the army of Shihabuddin Ghori and finally settled down at Ajmer in the year 1233 A.D.
    2. Khawaja Qutubuddin came to Delhi in the year 1236 in the train of Shihabuddin Ghori and stayed on to further the cause of Islam.
    3. Sheikh Faridudin came to Pattan (now in Pakistan) in the year 1265.
    4. Sheikh Nizamuddin Auliya of Dargah Hazrat Nizamuddin came to Delhi in the year 1335 accompanying a contingent of the Muslim Invaders.
    Additionally, the famous Sufi Shihabuddin Suhrawardy of Baghdad was brought to India for carrying out the missionary work of conversions by Bahauddin Zakariya of Multan several decades after the Hindu ruler had been defeated and his kingdom laid waste after large scale plunder and manslaughter.

    The well known authority on Sufism, S.A.A. Rizvi has recorded in his book, ‘A History of Sufism in India’that Nizamuddin Auliya used to unhesitatingly accept enormous gifts given to him by Khusraw Barwar which implied that the Auliya was unconcerned with the source of the gift, provided it was paid in cash. Yet the Auliya was a firm believer in the need for a Muslim’s unquestioned loyalty and obedience to the ulema. As reiterated by K.A. Nizami, Auliya used to preach that the unbeliever is the doomed denizen of Hell. In his khutba he would leave no one in doubt that Allah has created Paradise for the Believers and Hell for the infidels “in order to repay the wicked for what they have done”.

    It is claimed in Jawahar-i-Faridi that the Khwaja had dried the two holy lakes of Annasagar and Pansela by the magical heat of Islamic spiritual power. He is even stated to have made the idol of the Hindu temple near Annasagar recite the Kalma. The Khwaja had a burning desire to destroy the rule of the brave Rajput king, Prithiviraj Chauhan, so much so that he ascribed the victory of Muhammad Ghori in the battle of Tarain entirely to his own spiritual prowess and declared that “We have seized Pithaura alive and handed him over to the army of Islam”. [Source: Siyar’l Auliya, cited by Rizvi on page 116 of ‘A History of Sufism in India’].

    It was almost a taboo for Sufis, the so-called saints, to accept a Hindu ascending the throne of any kingdom during the heydays of the Muslim rule. In an example narrated by S.A.A. Rizvi on page 37 of his well researched book, The Wonder That Was India (Vol.II, Rupa & Co, 1993, New Delhi) it is pointed out that when the powerful Bengali warrior, king Ganesha, captured power in Bengal in the year 1415 A.D.


    Ibrahim Shah Sharqi attacked his kingdom at the request of outraged ulema and numerous Sufis of Bengal. In the ensuing strife, the leading Sufi of Bengal, Nur Qutb-i-Alam,interceded and secured a political agreement to the benefit of the Muslim community and satisfaction of Sufis.

    No Muslim, nor any Sufi, has ever agreed to worship in a Hindu temple, nor make obeisance before the images of Hindu Gods and Goddesses.

    Under dire threat, King Ganesha was forced to abdicate his throne in favour of his 12 year old son, Jadu, who was converted to Islam and proclaimed as Sultan Jalaluddin – to the satisfaction of the Sufi masters. Similarly Sultan Ahmed Shah of Gujarat (1411-42), though a practitioner of Sufi philosophy, was a die hard iconoclast who took delight in destroying temples, as stated in the same tome, by S.A.A. Rizvi. The Sultan also used to force the Rajput chieftains to marry their daughters to him so that they would become outcastes in their own community. And the endgame of the Sultan could as well be that perhaps some of the outcaste Rajputs might then opt to become Muslims.

    Unfortunately due to relentless colonization of the Hindu mind during 1000 years long oppressive Muslim rule, the Hindu masses till date have failed to realize that the so-called Sufi philosophy of religious harmony is a one-way street. This trend of Hindus praying at tombs and dargahs has been nurtured by the strong undercurrent of belief in spiritualism among Hindu masses, even educated classes. That is the crux of the matter.
     
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    abey chal .....

    ek hi baat 100 baar repeat kar raha hai.. kal koi exam hai kya? 4-5 post se tera chutiyapa dekh rahy hai sab..

    jo tu keh raha hai sabko pata hai bhai .. bass kar de
     
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    How to counter terrorism aimed at india?

    Ajit Doval advocate 3 measure.

    1) Deny them weapon, Deny them money and deny them manpower.

    2)Some highly selective intelligence driven operations will break the waist of terrorism.

    3) A very strong propaganda. Look at the propaganda IB and RAW doing (I am not very sure about the truth in it.). They propagated that indian boys are made servants and ISIS guys are force them to clean toilet. They are not allowed to enjoy sex with Arab girls etc etc.

    Now this will discourage Muzzie boys thinking to join ISIS.

    4) Look at the sufi program organised in India. this will give a strong anti terrorism massage . We need to strengthen it.

    5) make them fight in between and create mistrust. Ajit doval is a master of this technique.

    6) There must be influential mullahs on government payroll aggressively advocating what our government want them to do.

    7) Fund from Saudi and other middle eastern country must be on government radar and it should be seized so that it can not be used for propagating Extremist Islamic ideologies.

    8) Ghar Wapsi must be done with all strength we have.




    I think our intelligence agency is doing a fantastic job by combining all these techniques. Had our intelligence not been strong enough, they would have been much more successful in damaging us.
     
  16. Panjab47

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    Yes, aurangzeb is true face of moderate islam.
     
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    Was Aurangzeb Sufi?


    .........Tatty character..........
     
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    Abey chu*** 2 terrorist attacks presidential candidate want to BAN ALL MUSLIMS and kick out rest of Muslims from USA, China LITERALLY BANNED ISLAM (ban youth entering in mosques/Ramdan/beards&burkas,modified kuran and so many steps). They didn't ask is he Shia/Sunni/Ahmadi/Sufi muslim etc.... simple solution BAN&KICK-OUT. :D

    That is the difference btw a LEADER and a COWARD. Solution is simple to stop terrorism/riots 'BAN KURAN' or Ban islam.
     
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    The west has done an interesting experiment, which a lot of people haven't realized. They have started promoting muslim pop culture icons as a means to override the conventional message of political Islam with the hip version of American Islam. There are youtube channels dedicated to designer hijabs, halal restaurants, halal make up brands and other cool stuff, which, I suspect, are being promoted behind the scenes by the agencies. It's basically the promotion of capitalism through other means. Basically, they smartly tried to strip muslims of their political thought to reduce the idea of being a muslim to simply appearance.

    By promoting these hip muslim icons, they are providing a template to muslim youth to emulate in such a way that being a muslim is nothing more than simply roaming around in the cosplay of a muslim, while simultaneously installing the American DNA in their brains. It worked fine for a while then it backfired when these same hip icons reverted back to echoing the voices of political Islam.

    Compare this :



    With this :



    Moral of the story is that we are only deluding ourselves if we think that these people will change. The doctrine of ideological subversion or 'Disha Bhool' that you are recommending doesn't work on people whose philosophy is like 'Kutte ki poonch...'

    You give them education, food, electricity, roads, respect, accept them as your own, doesn't matter, these people, no matter whichever country they have immigrated to, will always hold the opinion that the Islamic society which they came from is superior to the one where they are presently living, simply by virtue of being Islamic. They never assimilate in your culture, instead, they try to convert other people in your culture to their ideology.
     
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    because you people have no guts... your own hindus are shouting intolerance intolerance.. pehle unko set karo phir inko karna.

    don't talk big here.
     

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