How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence system?

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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

They are developing one, it will take 15 years.

They are also developing a ABM system for boost phase interception, that's more important today.
Some details will be much appreciated.
 

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The reason I started this thread because under nuclear umbrella Paki provocation increases day by day. Also it blunted the edge of earlier doctrine of 3 strike corps cutting across Pakistan replaced by a timid CSD. If we can achieve the boost phase interception of Paki MRBM's like shaheen 2 etc we can pretty much neuter them and kick their asses when we want how we want.:cool2:
For every SRBM/MRBM Pak launches, India would launch 1 PDV+1AAD, with a combined kill probability of 98%.

Even if Pakis have 400 BMs, which they do not, the effective threat is of 8 nukes of a few kilotons only, with an effective destruction of only 200-400 sq km in India.

Indian retaliation would be destruction of top 80% of Paki top population centers (54 million) with just 10 nukes, or 90% (60 million) with 20 nukes, or 95% (65 million) with 40 nukes.

This is effective deterrence, and Pakis know it very well.

That is why the so called "Nuclear Umbrella" is nothing but a bluff.

Ask @Yusuf to share his detailed thesis on this.
 
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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

Some details will be much appreciated.
Long range directed microwave (KALI) would be available in 15yrs.

Short range Laser DEW would be available in 10yrs.
 

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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

Some details will be much appreciated.
The two statements I wrote there is all the information we have currently.

The laser based BMD was mentioned by scientists a long time ago and the boost phase BMD was mentioned by Avinash Chander in an interview recently.
 

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Just curious if the shuttle ceramic resist a temperature of 1300 C degrees in reentry this means that the Ballistic missile will have the same material to survive the reentry, can a beam reach that temperature? wouldn't enough to put a reflective surface to null the effect of the beam?
 

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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

The two statements I wrote there is all the information we have currently.

The laser based BMD was mentioned by scientists a long time ago and the boost phase BMD was mentioned by Avinash Chander in an interview recently.

Since I am listening about Laser based BMD for IRBM , I am hearing about boost phase. It is not lol.
 

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Since I am listening about Laser based BMD for IRBM , I am hearing about boost phase. It is not lol.
A laser based BMD covers all phases, boost, mid course and terminal. They just have to stick it into an aircraft and it will do the same as terminal. What's different is the detection and tracking systems for each phase.

The point is you need a laser system powerful enough to kill a missile.
 
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@blueblood

SAM's are one of the layers in BMD . AWACS also play a vital role.
Check how aegis system uses Them.
 
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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

For every SRBM/MRBM Pak launches, India would launch 1 PDV+1AAD, with a combined kill probability of 98%.
Even Americans don't claim that killing rate unless Indians have some alien technologies.

Even if Pakis have 400 BMs, which they do not, the effective threat is of 8 nukes of a few kilotons only, with an effective destruction of only 200-400 sq km in India.
The whole world believes that Pakistan has around 100 nukes, maybe you should let everyone know the "truth".

Indian retaliation would be destruction of top 80% of Paki top population centers (54 million) with just 10 nukes, or 90% (60 million) with 20 nukes, or 95% (65 million) with 40 nukes.
It doesn't matter when there are 50 millions Indian dying with them.

This is effective deterrence, and Pakis know it very well.
It seems that Indians know it as much as them.

That is why the so called "Nuclear Umbrella" is nothing but a bluff.

Ask @Yusuf to share his detailed thesis on this.
To internet fanboy? Yes, it is nothing.
To Indian generals and PM? Oh, no, it is everything.
 
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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

Try harder, would you?

Even Americans don't claim that killing rate unless Indians have some alien technologies.



The whole world believes that Pakistan has around 100 nukes, maybe you should let everyone know the "truth".



It doesn't matter when there are 50 millions Indian dying with them.



It seems that Indians know it as much as them.



To internet fanboy? Yes, it is nothing.
To Indian generals and PM? Oh, no, it is everything.
 

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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

A laser based BMD covers all phases, boost, mid course and terminal. They just have to stick it into an aircraft and it will do the same as terminal. What's different is the detection and tracking systems for each phase.

The point is you need a laser system powerful enough to kill a missile.

In booster phase it is most easier to pick and kill the missile. In mid-course, you can eye to missile but destroying by laser is one very big difficult task. Ballistic missiles can go 100s of kilometer height. Especially controlling the laser beam.

In terminal phase, again time remain very low for laser. There is not enough time so that laser can destroy the missile (laser should be very high power for that, ground based laser may get that enormous energy but for air asset, it is very hard especially in todays scenerio ).

That's why all laser systems are emphasis in booster phase destruction. It is easier to kill as well as no threat of EMPs, which can be in terminal or mid-course destruction.
 

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Re: How about a directed energy based boost phase missile defence syst

In booster phase it is most easier to pick and kill the missile. In mid-course, you can eye to missile but destroying by laser is one very big difficult task. Ballistic missiles can go 100s of kilometer height. Especially controlling the laser beam.

In terminal phase, again time remain very low for laser. There is not enough time so that laser can destroy the missile (laser should be very high power for that, ground based laser may get that enormous energy but for air asset, it is very hard especially in todays scenerio ).

That's why all laser systems are emphasis in booster phase destruction. It is easier to kill as well as no threat of EMPs, which can be in terminal or mid-course destruction.
In a decade, it won't matter. A laser will be capable of most functions today's missiles can do.
 

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In a decade, it won't matter. A laser will be capable of most functions today's missiles can do.

Nobody can see the future, only can predict.
 

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