Hindustan Trainer HTT-40

[captscooby81]

the second prototype which was parked in aeroindia2017

 

[Vikramaditya]

any significant differences in second prototype

 

[Prashant12]

HTT 40 basic trainer at Aero India 2017

 

[Prashant12]

Just In #HTT40 PT2 maiden flight successful.

 

[Certified Gipsy]

'˜OUR TRAINER AIRCRAFT 40 TIMES BETTER THAN F-16S'

Prashant Singh Bhadoria is angry and exuberant at the same time. The 34-year-old engineer, who did his engineering in electronics from Nanded, Maharashtra, works as a deputy manager of a team in Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, which is developing HTT-40 (Hindustan Turbo Trainer), a small aircraft being developed specifically for training purposes.



While the Indian Air Force has decided to import PC-7 aircraft made by Swiss firm Pilatus Aircraft, Bhadoria isn’t too pleased. The HTT-40 is a far superior aircraft and according to him, it can deliver 40 hours of flying for the same cost an F-16 or MiG- 29 will deliver in just one hour – which kind of explains why the plane gets the number in its name.



“When we are talking about developing fifth generation aircraft in this country, it is sad we have to import a trainer aircraft from a foreign country. After over 60 years of Independence, do we have to show our power by importing a trainer craft,” he asked.



The HTT-40, he said, also has an unusual quality for a training aircraft. It can strap up guns and bombs and get into combat mode when there is a need for one. “It can fly up to 600 kmph and reach an altitude of 6 km,” he added.



The young engineer is visibly charged. “We can test the craft by 2015 and go into production mode two years from there.”



The PC-7 costs approximately Rs 37 crore (order for 75 aircraft at $520 million) each while the HTT-40 is estimated to cost Rs 33 crore. The IAF took delivery of 2 PC-7s earlier this week.



He did his Masters in Science from Cranfield University in the UK and topped his class.



It must be a no-brainer to assume a bright engineer like Bhadoria would cherry-pick his job in the US or Europe with some of the best aircraft makers who would pay a king’s ransom as salary. “Absolutely not. I come from a place like Nanded and HAL gave me an identity by sending me to the UK for my Masters. I will continue to work for this organisation for the rest of my life,” he said.





‘Overhaul defence procurement’

Meanwhile, Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne made it aptly clear at the second day of the Aero India seminar on Tuesday about the need for some serious re-haul in the way Indian defence establishment deals with procurements. He said there should be penalty imposed for poor performance either in the form of withholding of payments or recovering money already paid. Targeting HAL and DRDO without mentioning them directly, he suggested a mechanism of dual assessment of both our production and design agencies to avoid problems in the future.

Source:
http://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/bangalore/others//articleshow/21235150.cms?

 

[Kay]

40 times cheaper != 40 times better

 

[Kunal Biswas]

His context is different and in that context its 40 times better than other in its operational costs ..

40 times cheaper != 40 times better

 

[Kay]

His context is different and in that context its 40 times better than other in its operational costs ..

I got the context..was not criticizing Bhadoria...but the headline of the article..this is sensationalism and click-baiting

 

[wuzetian]

40 times cheaper != 40 times better

I think he meant per hour cost of operation of HTT40 (which is turbo prop) is 1/40 of operation of F-16 which has gasoline guzzling jet engine.

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[TheHurtLocker]

F-16 which has gasoline guzzling jet engine.

I believe both the F16 and the HTT40 use similar Kerosene based fuels.
Don't think the IAF uses Aviation Gasolene.

 

[Chinmoy]

I think he meant per hour cost of operation of HTT40 (which is turbo prop) is 1/40 of operation of F-16 which has gasoline guzzling jet engine.

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Bhadoria meant somehing else, but the stupid journo mixed all up and served it. Classic case of "Saara Raita Faila Diya"

 

[kunal1123]

business-standard.com
'Development of indigenous trainer aircraft in advanced stage'
IANS
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The Defence Ministry on Tuesday said the production of HTT-40 trainer aircraft that would replace the Indian Air Force's HPT-32 Deepak as a basic trainer was in "advanced stage" and the aircraft is likely to be certified fit to fly by December 2018.

The maiden flight of the second prototype (PT-2) of the basic trainer aircraft (HTT-40) was "successfully completed" on May 19 this year "without any glitch", Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre informed the Rajya Sabha in a written reply.

"The aircraft flew for one hour carrying out important manoeuvres, touching altitude of 20,000 ft and maximum speed of 185 kmph," Bhamre said.

"The project is in advanced stage of development. Two prototypes have been developed and produced till date and both prototypes are under flight trials."

He said one more prototype would be manufactured to further speed up the development process and its manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), aimed "to get the aircraft certified by December 2018 which will be followed by series production".

The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) approved procurement of 70 Basic Trainer Aircraft from HAL in February 2015.

HAL has planned to set up facility for manufacturing of 15-20 aircraft per annum. The aircraft is funded by HAL with its own resources.

--IANS

sar/dg

(This story has not been edited by Business Standard staff and is auto-generated from a syndicated feed.)

 

[kunal1123]

Another problem with not made in India ..........


Swiss firm not extending maintenance deal for India’s PC-7 trainers Published July 21, 2017 SOURCE: Defensenews.com The maintenance contract for the Indian Air Force’s 75 PC-7 Turbo Trainers will not be extended, according to a Ministry of Defence official. The aircraft, manufactured by Pilatus Aircraft of Switzerland and acquired in 2012, was under a maintenance deal that expired in December 2016. “The follow-on guarantee of further 36 months beyond December 2016 is not being cleared by MoD on grounds of steep price,” the MoD official said.The Swiss company was unavailable for comment, but an Indian Air Force official asserted that the Pilatus is not extending the contract because the MoD decided against buying additional PC-7 Turbo Trainers, “which were earlier agreed upon.” “Due to no maintenance contract, IAF is using its own resources and resorting to buying parts from the local market to maintain the Pilatus fleet,” the Air Force official said. The PC-7 trainers were purchased by the outgoing government despite opposition to the foreign purchase by the state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. HAL had wanted a contract for the HTT-40 basic trainer that it was developing. But the National Democratic Alliance government, after coming to power in 2014, decided that the Air Force’s future needs would only be met the HTT-40, which is still under development and is likely to be certified in the coming year, potentially ensuring an end to the purchase of Pilatus turbo trainers. The MoD official said the HTT-40 is undergoing extensive trials and that airworthy certification is expected by 2018. The official also noted that it meets the criteria of the Make in India policy. India’s current ruling government was critical of the Pilatus purchase when the deal was struck. But the Air Force itself had in 2012 rejected HAL’s HHT-40 trainer and favored the purchase of PC-7 Turbo Trainers. “IAF is of the view that HTT-40 basic trainer aircraft would be more expensive than the imported PC-7 Turbo Trainer. In addition, IAF has told MoD that it [HTT-40] is overweight and overpriced,” the IAF official said. However, HAL still managed to secure internal funds for its HTT-40 project, a senior HAL executive noted. According to the IAF official, “there was a provision to buy additional PC-7 Turbo Trainers by IAF, which would have catered to provisioning of additional spares and warranty, etc., to cover the existing fleet. This would have the original equipment manufacturer to depute the representative and would have catered to ease of maintenance of existing fleet. However, this [additional purchase of PC-7s] has not happened.” Currently, the Air Force’s training fleet includes homegrown Kiran Mark I and II basic trainers, totaling 150, plus 99 British Advanced Hawk trainers. The Pilatus strength is 75, and an order for the HTT-40 trainers is for at least 60. “The MoD, under the current rule of the NDA government, is not likely [to] give support for [a] major contract for spares of Pilatus, and IAF has to maintain the fleet within the existing budget for the entire fleet,” the IAF official said.

idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/swiss-firm-not-extending-maintenance-deal-for-indias-pc-7-trainers/ .

 

[Shashwat]

Max speed has to be 485kmph. It cannot be 185 has to be a typo. Even helis fly @ 250+kmph

 

[TheHurtLocker]

Max speed has to be 485kmph. It cannot be 185 has to be a typo. Even helis fly @ 250+kmph

Max speed on the first flight of the PT2.

 

[SanjeevM]

Another problem with not made in India ..........


Swiss firm not extending maintenance deal for India’s PC-7 trainers Published July 21, 2017 SOURCE: Defensenews.com The maintenance contract for the Indian Air Force’s 75 PC-7 Turbo Trainers will not be extended, according to a Ministry of Defence official. The aircraft, manufactured by Pilatus Aircraft of Switzerland and acquired in 2012, was under a maintenance deal that expired in December 2016. “The follow-on guarantee of further 36 months beyond December 2016 is not being cleared by MoD on grounds of steep price,” the MoD official said.The Swiss company was unavailable for comment, but an Indian Air Force official asserted that the Pilatus is not extending the contract because the MoD decided against buying additional PC-7 Turbo Trainers, “which were earlier agreed upon.” “Due to no maintenance contract, IAF is using its own resources and resorting to buying parts from the local market to maintain the Pilatus fleet,” the Air Force official said. The PC-7 trainers were purchased by the outgoing government despite opposition to the foreign purchase by the state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. HAL had wanted a contract for the HTT-40 basic trainer that it was developing. But the National Democratic Alliance government, after coming to power in 2014, decided that the Air Force’s future needs would only be met the HTT-40, which is still under development and is likely to be certified in the coming year, potentially ensuring an end to the purchase of Pilatus turbo trainers. The MoD official said the HTT-40 is undergoing extensive trials and that airworthy certification is expected by 2018. The official also noted that it meets the criteria of the Make in India policy. India’s current ruling government was critical of the Pilatus purchase when the deal was struck. But the Air Force itself had in 2012 rejected HAL’s HHT-40 trainer and favored the purchase of PC-7 Turbo Trainers. “IAF is of the view that HTT-40 basic trainer aircraft would be more expensive than the imported PC-7 Turbo Trainer. In addition, IAF has told MoD that it [HTT-40] is overweight and overpriced,” the IAF official said. However, HAL still managed to secure internal funds for its HTT-40 project, a senior HAL executive noted. According to the IAF official, “there was a provision to buy additional PC-7 Turbo Trainers by IAF, which would have catered to provisioning of additional spares and warranty, etc., to cover the existing fleet. This would have the original equipment manufacturer to depute the representative and would have catered to ease of maintenance of existing fleet. However, this [additional purchase of PC-7s] has not happened.” Currently, the Air Force’s training fleet includes homegrown Kiran Mark I and II basic trainers, totaling 150, plus 99 British Advanced Hawk trainers. The Pilatus strength is 75, and an order for the HTT-40 trainers is for at least 60. “The MoD, under the current rule of the NDA government, is not likely [to] give support for [a] major contract for spares of Pilatus, and IAF has to maintain the fleet within the existing budget for the entire fleet,” the IAF official said.

idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/swiss-firm-not-extending-maintenance-deal-for-indias-pc-7-trainers/ .

I hope this will be an eye opener for IAF to reject foreign maal and instead go for indigenous maal. Whole fleet of PC-7 may be down.

HAL should make HTT-40 certification process faster and see if it can be preponed.

Government should take the matter with Swedish government at government to government level regarding spares and maintenance contract with Pilatus.

 

[Kay]

I hope this will be an eye opener for IAF to reject foreign maal and instead go for indigenous maal. Whole fleet of PC-7 may be down.

HAL should make HTT-40 certification process faster and see if it can be preponed.

Government should take the matter with Swedish government at government to government level regarding spares and maintenance contract with Pilatus.

The person responsible for this fiasco was apparently rewarded with an ambassadorship.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Published on Feb 21, 2017
Find out everything you wanted to know about the HTT 40 basic trainer development in this 12-minute video. Deputy project manager Prashant Singh Bhaduria, takes you around HAL's success story at Aero India 2017.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

HTT 40 basic trainer

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[Kunal Biswas]

Few more of HTT-40 pics ..