High Crime Rate of US/West and India, a Study

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Yes, hello/sunny/santosh10 has a very pro-Russian track record, so he can re-invent himself as often as he likes with moderators' blessing. He is a termite eating away at DFI from the inside.
Actually, there is no embargo on having a pro US or a pro Russian view or for that matter a pro Martian view either.

Termites are all over.

It is a mere inclination since one's termite is another termite's termite.

Please desist from getting personal.

I assure you that you too have had a huge chunk of the Moderators' Blessing.

Be thankful.
 

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Having high rate of crime in the records doesn't always mean the place is relatively more violent. It may also mean that they record the crime at much higher rate than others - where it goes sans FIR most of the times. No report, no crime.
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Virendra, further to your post#35, how would you see the news as below, where we find Japan at the bottom here too? we also have example of few European countries like Finland, Denmark in the company of Japan here too. why do we see less Prison Rate/ less crime reported in these OECD economies like Japan/Denmark/Finland as compare to Super Power USA?

here, im mainly intended to discuss the news of post#29, which does compare the number of people being reduced, killed/murdered, and its comparison with others. and here we find US/America's beating Africa too? and this news of post#29 is further to high performing USA after leading world on the side of robberies/rapes/serious assaults etc :facepalm:

in post#29, non-Welfare society of India at around 2.6 murders per 100,000 population won't be said to be good but below the average of Asia at 2.9. and as we have proper IDs of people in the developing countries like India/Vietnam/Philippines/Thailand etc, this is something we may obviously discuss, with giving reference of Pakistan being closed to South Africa in this report of post#29 too, for example :ranger:

 
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I did not know that Finland was so high on the list. Why has this been hidden from the public by our government. They should promote these positive news, instead of all the negstive euro news.
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how do you see this positive news about Finland, as in my last post#44? :ranger:
 
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Stop mentioning so many people, so frequently. I have nothing more to say on this thread.
 

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As DFI tolerates many.
If santosh10 and his 2 earlier personas contributed one thing of value to this forum, I would like to know about it. His posts are nothing more that huge dumps of pointless articles.
 

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Actually, there is no embargo on having a pro US or a pro Russian view or for that matter a pro Martian view either.

Termites are all over.

It is a mere inclination since one's termite is another termite's termite.

Please desist from getting personal.

I assure you that you too have had a huge chunk of the Moderators' Blessing.

Be thankful.
I'll take it to the bank, Sir :)
 

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If santosh10 and his 2 earlier personas contributed one thing of value to this forum, I would like to know about it. His posts are nothing more that huge dumps of pointless articles.
Everything in life is pointless. It is based on perception.

I am not aware of the various persona that one has since it is for the tech team to check and rectify.

So, now you know about it.

So long as a poster is not personal and abusive, I find no reason to interfere.

Take solace in the fact that half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them.
 

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Not interested in your bloated, pointless posts, and don't know why DFI tolerates you as santosh10, hello10, or whatever your lastest nom de plume...
Agree.

I'm pretty sure alts are against forum policy.
 

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Top 10 Countries With Highest Reported Crime Rate
August 26, 2013

For the development and survival of any country the most important thing is the inside peace of that country. For this peace it is important that all of the people in that country should follow all of the regulations and also secure the people's rights. But, when if the residents of a country stop following these rules and regulations and start snubbing the rights of other people then the peace of that country disturb and crime rate is getting high. This increase in crime rate can affect the development and the international image of that country and foreign visitors and companies hesitate to come here and invest their money in the country. To control the situation it is necessary that the police department and all of other legal departments take proper action to eliminate or reduce this crime rate. This crime can be of any type social or civil but it cause problem when the world becomes familiar with it. Here we are labeling the top ten countries with highest reported crime rate

1. United States

It is the most astonishing reality we have found, that in our list we have the United States is at the top with the total figures of reported crime 11,877,218. This is really a shock that a country which is a super power and always talks about peace and anti terror is having such kind of situations internally. :facepalm:

10. India

India is at the tenth position in the list of countries with the highest crime rate. The total number of reported crime in India is 1,764,630 in the last year. The main cause of this crime in India is its population and inflation, having a huge number of people and the failure to provide the proper earning resources to them is a default of the government. Besides this there are huge underworlds gangs are in India which are exploiting its roots and the parties of religious extremism are also creating criminals in the shape of extremist who murder the people from opposite religion or sect. majorly in the big centers of the country like Delhi and Mumbai the crime rate is higher than others. :ranger:

Top 10 Countries With Highest Reported Crime Rate | Allzinfo.com
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Relation of Social Security with the Reduced Crime Rate

sir, further to this topic of thread, we find around half of the US's budget for Social Security (23%) +Free Medical (25%), and then number of interest payment also come. Interest payment on that debt, the US is borrowing at the rate of at least $1.0trillion+ a year..... and hence they are expected to be less violent as compared to Non-Welfare society of India?????

but along with borrowing debt for Social Security+Medical, if they are paying at least $60billion+ a year to handle Prisons also, owing more than 25% of world's prison population, then its simply means for something wrong within the US?

and this is how the two largest democratic countries of the world are compared in this thread. how would you see relation of social security with the reduced crime rate, the main reason behind the crime rate of India, as in the above article? thanks



Crime Rate Comparison of India and USA

one day i calculated crime rate comparison between India Vs United States of America, the second largest democracy as below.

(this comparison also consider the facts that, American people receive Social Security + Free Medical so they are expected to be less violent as compare to the civilians of India, who live life in tough circumstances, having only around 350million Middle Class and rest are Under Class/Poor.)
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Comparison based on per 100,000 (lakh) people

=> India tops world murder count - Times Of India

1st,
The number of rape cases was maximum in the US which recorded 93,934 such assaults followed by South Africa 54,926 and India 18,359.
here, Rapes in Welfare society of US = 93,934/ 3100 (100,000) = 30.3 :

Rapes in non-Welfare India = 18,357/ 125,00 (100,000) = 1.47

2nd,
There were 32,719 incidents of murder recorded in India, whereas there were 16,692 in the US
Total Murders in Welfare society of US = 16,692/ 3100 (100,000) = 5.38

Total Murders in non-Welfare society of India = 32,719/ 12500 (100,000) = 2.61

3rd,
The US topped the crime list with 2,31,13,708 Total Crime related incidents, whereas India registered overall 50,26,337 criminal cases.
Total Crimes in Welfare Society of US = 2,31,13,708/ 3100 (100,000) = 7456

Total Crimes in non-Welfare society of India = 50,26,337/ 12500 (100,000) = 402


hence the "Total Crime Ratio" between the two largest democracies of the world = 18.4 :india:


=> India tops world murder count - Times Of India


=> and yes its a truth that all these dramatic increase in Murders, crimes, especially Rapes, started during last 7-8 years only, check the data's. we even find India to be dropped 25 points on the corruption ranking in just 5 years, out of hardly 180 countries, as below. the very first outcome of inviting the Western Culture and their all the good and bad, both

=> India 72 in corruption index in 2007

=> India ranked 94th in Corruption Perception Index ratings by 2012

and i have said before, if the Indian government doesn't take proper steps to control influence of Western Culture, then soon they will have to build more jails for those people who dont even have house, and living in slums :tsk:

Overall Picture of "non-Welfare" society of India Vs the second largest democracy of the world, the USA is as below:

While Americans represent about 5 percent of the world's population, nearly one-quarter of the entire world's inmates have been incarcerated in the United States in recent years.[3] Imprisonment of America's 2.3 million prisoners, costing $24,000 per inmate per year, and $5.1 billion in new prison construction, consumes $60.3 billion in budget expenditures. :facepalm:



United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Influence of Western Culture on Indian Society

India is a secular country where the people have the freedom to practice any religion and also to convert into another religion of their choice. So, all the cultures are freely accepted and respected by the Indians. It's an environment to cultivate or build oneself ethically, socially and in all other aspects that lead an all over human development. :india:

Every culture is a combination of some good and bad features. All in one, culture means 'a way of life'. Every geographical body has its own custom viz. culture. People of different nations are recognized by their culture. :thumb: One should be proud on its impressive traditions. It is the responsibility of all citizens to preserve their own ethnicity.

Indian culture is richly known in other parts of the world since the ancient age. Its multi-diverse flavour has been consistently unique in its very own way. Manners, traditions, living and trading patterns etc. are one of the graceful components of Indian culture. The most important feature of Indian culture is its values. These values are deeply rooted within the heart, mind, body and soul of its dwellers. :coffee:

But, the influence of western culture started in India during the 19th century when the british established their colony in the country.
Western culture, considered as the most advanced culture on globe, has started surmounting its flavour on Indian roots. Western culture has always shown its influence on Indian society. This could be for the multiple reasons like fascination, dreamy autonomy etc., which are somehow absent in Indian culture. Western culture conveys and promotes the ideas and values of advanced civilization across people of India.

There are ample of good things found in the western culture, which every Indian should proudly learn and adopt.:thumb: But what about the negative influences of the western culture? Every package comes with pros and cons. Indians should definitely use the culture strain before getting diluted under the flow of any cultural influence. The leading reasons for such impact are pursuit of wealth and power of Western media.

The culture of India has been shaped not only by its long history, unique geography and diverse demography, but also by its ancient heritages. Regarded by some historians as the "oldest living civilization of Earth", the Indian tradition dates back to 8,000 BC and has a continuous recorded history for over 2,500 years.

Westernization should not affect the core traditions of Indian society but may change the lifestyle and apparent characteristics of the society with the graceful add-ons like punctuality, trustworthiness, loyalty, professionalism should be welcomed and adored. :ranger:

These changes are like the betraying our old way of life, which we obtained through our ancestors. Updating is necessary but getting washed-off in influence is wide of the mark. If this continues, days will not be far away when the famous Indian civilization would be buried not by others but by the Indian themselves. :ranger:

Due to globalization the rich culture of India is disappearing. The most impact is of western culture on India culture. Western culture is based more on materialistic factors where as our culture has a spiritual base.

The culture of India is been disappearing by many ways the youths in India do not respect their elders, the families in India live separate. And thus have lost contacts with their other relatives the big point which is making the culture of India to disappear in bollywood the dressing style of the actresses, the slang word used in movies are been influenced the youth to bad step of life. The young ones try to act the same as these actors do which is very bad to the culture of India.

The lack of morals, the lacking faith in God, having late night parties, the influence of drugs and alcohols, least interest in Indian languages like Sanskrit, Hindi, Celebrating mothers day, fathers day, valentine day, fools day etc rather than celebrating our Indian festivals and thus wasting their precious time of life, Thinking to be independent at an early age :facepalm:

So, I strongly say that accept good from that and try to know our Indian culture more than u definitely change mind. :truestory:

Western Culture Influence Indian Society | Palem Srikanth Reddy
 

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The Measure of Empowered Women

I made 4 posts on Mr Obama's Twitter about women empowerment as below. i think these posts may be kept here also, to keep its a record in this thread too :thumb:

Mr Barack Obama's statement on Twitter on 23rd January 2014, ""You can judge a nation, and how successful it will be, based on how it treats its women and its girls." —President Obama"

My Comment:-

1st; thats true. a strong nation is defined on the level it gives priority to its weak part of society. like women/schedule caste in india

2nd; only women/schedule caste in India get scholarships/ reservations in exams/jobs. and empowering women means, one day they will help others

3rd; one and there is only one measure of "Empowered Women", whether they reach a day when they may help other weak parts of society too :thumb:

4th; and Im strongly against encouraging girls only to fcuk here there, but not giving them right advises to go high in life/career :thumb:

@W.G.Ewald
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here, i prepared a post about the Indian Hindu Migrants of US as below, which may have a place here too, i think :thumb:

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Indian Americans

its simple that a nation is made by its people, who may develop new technologies and improve the existing ones. nothing came from sky and nothing will ever come from sky, and we need those people who may make the nation proud from their knowledge/talent/ performance.

Indian migrants are those who pay very high tax as they fall in very high income bracket, least dependent on the Welfare and the least crime rate is registered from this community living in US/EU. many Indians came under business visa after investment in US/west itself, while most of them are very high qualified and are part of developing technologies to run the US's firms, and are doctors/ CA/ including business professionals (MBAs) too, to help them run businesses etc.
the meaning of high end educated people is much more than the amount of tax they pay :ranger:


From here, even if these kids don't know about their father, its the high tax paying migrants who pay for their expanses/Social Security/Welfare for these kids and also for their Single Mothers. isn't it? :ranger:

WASHINGTON: Indian Americans are the highest-income and best-educated people in the United States and the third largest among Asian Americans who have surpassed Latinos as the fastest-growing racial group, according to a new survey.

Indians, who now number 3.18 millions, the third largest after the Chinese (4 million) and the Filipinos (3.4 million) have a median household annual income of $88,000, much higher than for all Asians ($66,000) and all US households ($49,800).

The share of unmarried mothers was much lower among Indian Americans (2.3 per cent) than among all Asian Americans (15 per cent) and the population overall (37 per cent). :facepalm:

Indian-Americans top in income and education
 
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@Ray Sir,

The Amendment you talked about, the 2nd Amendment (Bill of Rights) was supposedly included so that Americans can wage a war against their government if it becomes a tyranny.

So, what is left is that the risk of the gun landing in wrong hands is there, but the benefits of the citizens being empowered are being eroded away.
@Dovah

further to my last post, the major threat of inviting Western Culture would be the rise of Single Mothers, inviting Single Mother culture to India. a state when women in India will start getting pregnant without proper marriage, while there is no social security like US to feed these kids :tsk:

even in case of UK, only these Lone Family Kids match with the state of Pakistani+Bangladeshi community, as below :facepalm:

75% of Pakistani and Bangladeshi Children "Live in Poverty"

According to the report, among fathers, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis had the highest unemployment rate (15 percent) – well above the UK average of 6 per cent. Unemployment among black fathers was also high (11 percent) but Indians were less likely to be unemployed (4 percent) than whites (5.5 percent).

Almost two-thirds (64 percent) of white and Indian mothers had jobs :thumb:, compared with half (52 percent) of black mothers and only 17 per cent of Pakistani and Bangladeshi mothers.

A much higher proportion of children in lone-parent families (63 percent) were living below the study's poverty line than those with married (16percent) or cohabiting (30 percent) parents.

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further to my last post, the major threat of inviting Western Culture would be the rise of Single Mothers, inviting Single Mother culture to India. a state when women in India will start getting pregnant without proper marriage, while there is no social security like US to feed these kids :tsk:

even in case of UK, only these Lone Family Kids match with the state of Pakistani+Bangladeshi community, as below :facepalm:
Dude, do you have some random tag generator. I mean I was not even involved in the discussion.
 
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Keep in mind figures can be misleading. Disease rates are higher in the west in part because better medical care means more detection of illness. Similarly someone pickpocketed in India might not even bother to file a police report but might in the USA. Not saying it is not more complex, but it is a part of why the rates are higher. Better law enforcement.
 

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Keep in mind figures can be misleading. Disease rates are higher in the west in part because better medical care means more detection of illness. Similarly someone pickpocketed in India might not even bother to file a police report but might in the USA. Not saying it is not more complex, but it is a part of why the rates are higher. Better law enforcement.
You are correct.

Higher crime rate means more crimes are being reported.

I am not sure whether higher rate of reporting is the same thing as higher law enforcement, unless we are talking about taking action after the crime has been committed.

How does that apply on India, and its endemic crime rate of certain types?
 

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If you think that Canada, France and Japan have a higher crime rate than countries like Mexico, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, and many of the Sub Saharan African countries like Somalia - then you truly need to find a really good brain surgeon and get MRI of your brain.

Is DFI slowly becoming the "dumb and dumber" defense forum......some of these threads are just beyond stupid !!!........What ever happened to the Moderators ??

The worst countries in the world that have the highest crime rate, also have the lowest rates of reported crime because people know that nothing will happen even if they report it.
The Cops are probably even bigger thugs than the thugs themselves.
Somalia probably has a lower reported crime rate than Canada - does that mean that there is less crime in Somalia than Canada....... WTF ???
 
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If you think that Canada, France and Japan have a higher crime rate than countries like Mexico, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, and many of the Sub Saharan African countries like Somalia - then you truly need to find a really good brain surgeon and get MRI of your brain.

Is DFI slowly becoming the "dumb and dumber" defense forum......some of these threads are just beyond stupid !!!........What ever happened to the Moderators ??

The worst countries in the world that have the highest crime rate, also have the lowest rates of reported crime because people know that nothing will happen even if they report it.
The Cops are probably even bigger thugs than the thugs themselves.
Somalia probably has a lower reported crime rate than Canada - does that mean that there is less crime in Somalia than Canada....... WTF ???
Could you amplify your remarks -
Is DFI slowly becoming the "dumb and dumber" defense forum......some of these threads are just beyond stupid !!!........What ever happened to the Moderators ??
I would be candid enough to state that there is no IQ or Knowledge Test that is undertaken that has a scale 1 to 9 in the field of Dumbness for qualifying to post on the DFI.

The contention of A being dumb and not B, is merely a conjecture for A might feel that B is more dumb.

What has the DFI got to do with that?

Further, this is not an American forum where jingoism rules the day. This is a democratic forum of a democratic country, where all views are welcomed and are debated, dumb or intelligent. That is for the posters to feel about each other and has nothing to do with Moderators.

We come in only when forum rules are violated, when the thread takes a tailspin, when foul language is used and such like.

This is neither a pro US or a pro Russia or a pro China or a pro Japan or pro anything forum. Even India is at the wrong end of the stick on many threads. Therefore, neither this forum can be accused of jingoism.

Therefore, do not expect any pro American or pro West or pro Russia favours from this forum.

It is pro Open Debate (with decency) forum and that is all.

It is time, posters understand that and clear the cobwebs that clutter their view of the DFI.
 
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