Hello, my Indian friends. The first post here.

[Daredevil]

As I said I will wait for 3-4 months for AAPtardism to wane & some reality check happens. :cool2:

 

[hit&run]

@Prometheus has a seething and vile hatred for Modi, and he is a textbook AAPTard, please look at his earlier posts. His post was not tongue-in-cheek in the least. Let us wait for @Prometheus to respond though.

Unfortunately, it has descended to this: AAP supporter means BJP/Modi hater. On Twitter and internet in general, I wonder what is wrong with the brains of these people. When Indians lambast BBC/Economist etc. for biased and snarky anti-India reporting, AAPTards come there and start making snide comments about "hitler Modi", "divisive RSS", "poisoning society", etc. When Lalu made a sort-of comeback before general elections, AAPTards were giggling in glee and mocking the BJP. So much for an "anti-corruption" party!! When communists like Kavita Krishnan make vile leftist comments advocating Golden socialism, AAPTards retweet them and abuse people who oppose commies.

This is the state of the mentality of AAPTards on the internet. It is a sad reality. Considering Kejriwal's promises of involving everyone in decision making and devolution of powers, one shudders to think of what will happen if this band of monkeys is given any kind of power/authority.

Every single thread has been trolled by this man. Even the thread related to terrorist attacks, where a better response is required against enemy got derailed. People those who think this forum is operating in isolation are doing a great disservice by allowing such derailment because there have patterns clearly visible on other side of the blogging sphere, who are reading us and drafting there responses to exploit our fault lines.


@Singh; yesterday you accused me of picking on you because you are a Sikh. It was quite late for me to discuss it further and explain why it was not the case. That was quite cheap mate.

 

[Prometheus]

@hit&run are you suggesting I am derailing the topic or @Singh or @Bangalorean

 

[hit&run]

@hit&run are you suggesting I am derailing the topic or @Singh or @Bangalorean

I was talking about you.

You may have some good reason to hate any politician but you have been doing it compulsively.

Your analogy of comparing Modi to Hitler or any A B C or D invokes Godwin's law and it is a blogging fallacy. May be it is not for Indians but still people can call you out to present your case why Modi is a Hitler. Which means, further derailment of the thread.

I would request you to open a thread with title Modi is a Hitler where you can present your case in detail than these random diatribes.

Furthermore you and Admin of this forum @Singh; got bad choice of threads to publish political differences or biases. One thread was terrorist attack on India where I requested you to at least wait for few more pages as the blood from our soldiers was still gushing out. I would rather say it was a complete disaster and failure of leadership of this forum that adversaries picked on our differences and started paddling vicious propaganda by opening new frontiers against us (I can prove it to you via PM).

Today in this thread opened by a commie propagandist, who writes like a commie and talk like a commie, person from a country who sleeps with North Korean leader Kim (whatever his name is), a nation founded by a butcher Mao, is comparing the PM of India with a dictator with literally no friend other than China and Pakistan, lecturing us on how we should perceive our leaders.

Come on, I have seen very bad bait eaters but this was one hell of bait feed on by my own country men.

 

[Singh]

As I said I will wait for 3-4 months for AAPtardism to wane & some reality check happens. :cool2:

MCD elections bhi toh aani hai

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

@Prometheus has a seething and vile hatred for Modi, and he is a textbook AAPTard, please look at his earlier posts. His post was not tongue-in-cheek in the least. Let us wait for @Prometheus to respond though.

Unfortunately, it has descended to this: AAP supporter means BJP/Modi hater. On Twitter and internet in general, I wonder what is wrong with the brains of these people. When Indians lambast BBC/Economist etc. for biased and snarky anti-India reporting, AAPTards come there and start making snide comments about "hitler Modi", "divisive RSS", "poisoning society", etc. When Lalu made a sort-of comeback before general elections, AAPTards were giggling in glee and mocking the BJP. So much for an "anti-corruption" party!! When communists like Kavita Krishnan make vile leftist comments advocating Golden socialism, AAPTards retweet them and abuse people who oppose commies.

This is the state of the mentality of AAPTards on the internet. It is a sad reality. Considering Kejriwal's promises of involving everyone in decision making and devolution of powers, one shudders to think of what will happen if this band of monkeys is given any kind of power/authority.

kejru supporters need not be modi hater.
i like both modi and kejru.
modi for centre and kejru for state.
i feel aap is not that experienced enough to handle centre (it would have been big gamble if they would have formed centre govt) but they do deserve a chance in state. afterall we want good governance and competion in political parties its only us who gonna benefit from it.
hope kejru forms govt in delhi this time and prove his haters wrong. :thumb:

 

[Prometheus]

@hit&run
Please DO! also, could you please show/ send me the link of which " terrorist attack on India" thread did I post on? .... was trying to look for it , but couldn't

 

[DingDong]

@hit&run
Please DO! also, could you please show/ send me the link of which " terrorist attack on India" thread did I post on? .... was trying to look for it , but couldn't

I have read your posts, some of them seem more like coming from foreign posters than the Indian ones. Are you employed by a foreign firm?

 

[Prometheus]

@DingDong no not really? in any case even if I was, I can assure you that it wouldn't have altered my judgement =))

 

[Singh]

@Singh; yesterday you accused me of picking on you because you are a Sikh. It was quite late for me to discuss it further and explain why it was not the case. That was quite cheap mate.

Whenever I think I might be making a statement which you or some other member might not like, I make it a point to PM that this is just an argument or a post perhaps made in the heat of the moment but I don't bear any illwill.

However, in my mind I am quite clear that criticising BJP or Modi or even some Hindus or supporting a political party for an elections isn't tantamount to criticising Hinduism. If you can notice my posts, I have never even once criticised the Quran or Prophet Muhammad but have criticised Muslims and their Mullahs. Its not that I have any affections but its against my value system.

I have seen a post or two from you that left a very bad taste in my mouth. Anyways, I felt what I had to say, so I said it. If its not the case, then I apologize. I genuinely have no illwill towards you, and I have always treated like you like an elder brother and will continue too.

Even with @Ray sir on the threads I sometimes use very inappropriate language for a man of his stature, and its his greatness that he is able to brush them off and not get cross. It shows his class, patience, generosity and stature.

You know a gentleman on another thread said that I making a politically correct statement when I said that I treat all Indians as Indians irresp, I genuinely feel so. I am proud of DFI, in that in our staff the talks of politics or religion don't even figure, we have never discriminated against a member becaue of political beliefs, caste, religious beliefs etc. The only line we tow is that of being a Pro-India forum.



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Furthermore you and Admin of this forum @Singh; got bad choice of threads to publish political differences or biases. One thread was terrorist attack on India where I requested you to at least wait for few more pages as the blood from our soldiers was still gushing out. I would rather say it was a complete disaster and failure of leadership of this forum that adversaries picked on our differences and started paddling vicious propaganda by opening new frontiers against us (I can prove it to you via PM).

I think it'll be very sad day if you wish to stifle the debates on this forum if you think our adversaries can taking advantage of it.
May I remind you the choicest of words hurled by all including me during UPA-2 against well UPA-2 ?

We pride ourselves on arguments. Indian culture is full of debates and arguments, and that is the reason you gain clarity of thoughts. Often I will take a contrarian position even though I mayn't agree just to see what is on the otherside.

In fact when I said that Kashmir had been the most peaceful during UPA-2 people pounced upon me as though I had committed some kind of blasphemy. To deride UPA-2, we couldn't even acknowledge the great work done by our security forces in finishing the insrugency.

Today what we are seing in Kashmir is not an Insurgency but cross border terrorism by heavily armed and trained Pakistan state backed Pakistani terrorists.

But to come back to the point, criticising Politicians is a way of keeping them in check. We mustn't forget that politicians are there to serve us and at our pleasure.
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[DingDong]

@DingDong no not really? in any case even if I was, I can assure you that it wouldn't have altered my judgement =))

I know, certain people are born that way, have self-loathing attitude, invite controversies and for them "pasture is always greener on the other side".

 

[Prometheus]

well who said Patriotism was all about narcissism, the point of having a democracy is the idea of having an alternate thought process. Some of the most annoying people I have met on the net, are over pompous nationals, believing EVERY thing that they do is right, is right because their nation is successful. If self inspecting / critical people are not a part of the system then corruption takes over that system!. The whole point of having a democracy is to HAVE an opposition!.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain

 

[hit&run]

Whenever I think I might be making a statement which you or some other member might not like, I make it a point to PM that this is just an argument or a post perhaps made in the heat of the moment but I don't bear any illwill.

I have a good memory so far. I think you are not reading my posts. I have categorically said that I will wait at least a year before unleashing myself on this government. And I opted the same rule for UPA and not once but three time before I have said that I supported UPA-2 under the leadership of MMS.

However, in my mind I am quite clear that criticising BJP or Modi or even some Hindus or supporting a political party for an elections isn't tantamount to criticising Hinduism. If you can notice my posts, I have never even once criticised the Quran or Prophet Muhammad but have criticised Muslims and their Mullahs. Its not that I have any affections but its against my value system.

I can post my own posts where I have been highly critical of RSS and BJP vis a vis secularism but that has been always backed by a context. The same I have been about congress-I, I never felt a compulsion to troll in each and every thread like many have been allowed to with impunity. Everyone has values but our scope here is limited only to debate and present our argument to counter what has been thrown against us as a nation. Political fights should be fought at proper sections.

I have seen a post or two from you that left a very bad taste in my mouth.

I am a responsible person who clearly understand that people know who I am and can trace my traits on different forums and my address. To make diagnosis of people is my forte but I can go wrong at times. I apologies if my post have been below the level you expected. .

Anyways, I felt what I had to say, so I said it. If its not the case, then I apologize. I genuinely have no ill will towards you, and I have always treated like you like an elder brother and will continue too.

You ----ed my Sunday yesterday.

Even with @Ray sir on the threads I sometimes use very inappropriate language for a man of his stature, and its his greatness that he is able to brush them off and not get cross. It shows his class, patience, generosity and stature.

Ray has big fan following, count me in one of them. Don't mess with an army man they remain always Jawan.

You know a gentleman on another thread said that I making a politically correct statement when I said that I treat all Indians as Indians irresp, I genuinely feel so. I am proud of DFI, in that in our staff the talks of politics or religion don't even figure, we have never discriminated against a member becaue of political beliefs, caste, religious beliefs etc. The only line we tow is that of being a Pro-India forum.

There have been few private talk between you and me, You know how valuable this forum is to me.

I think it'll be very sad day if you wish to stifle the debates on this forum if you think our adversaries can taking advantage of it.

I am afraid you haven't understood my assertion. I will explain it some another day.

May I remind you the choicest of words hurled by all including me during UPA-2 against well UPA-2 ?

No one is going to spare this government either.

In fact when I said that Kashmir had been the most peaceful during UPA-2 people pounced upon me as though I had committed some kind of blasphemy. To deride UPA-2, we couldn't even acknowledge the great work done by our security forces in finishing the insrugency.

The terror apparatus is/was still intact we can not be so naive by indulging into such comparisons. On social media I expect people to go beyond media essays.

Today what we are seing in Kashmir is not an Insurgency but cross border terrorism by heavily armed and trained Pakistan state backed Pakistani terrorists.

How you are going to prove and endorse this assertion?

Here I, you and Prometheus jumps into this equation. The key word is propaganda. We fill the gap where our government skips but what we are doing is counter productive or may be dangerous. No one is going to give us medals for being a argumentative and open society but or perception being righteous is going to work for us.

But to come back to the point, criticising Politicians is a way of keeping them in check. We mustn't forget that politicians are there to serve us and at our pleasure.

Absolutely, but that criticism must be backed by logic not mere diatribes which so far hasn't been offered.

The have been out of context comments made, used every where by that Mr. Toffee Gubara Jhoola amateur Rahul Gandhi like they are doing on NDTV blogs. This forum where we have been member since 5-6 years should give shrills to such posters who dare to survive with us but can't even invent their own words.

I have taken a vow not to budge if I saw any such comment on army and counter terrorism threads, where a befitting response to adversaries is required.

 

[Prometheus]

@hit&run, if you are concerned about Pakistan, let me assure you that there is no chance in hell that they can compete or match India, at its current trajectory, Pakistan will meet its end before you know it. Nothing you or we say is going to change this fact!. No matter what they write on PDF or here, its headed for certain doom. But what will change is them pressing the N switch just before they are doomed.
You talk dirty with them, they get defensive and protect their stance and the whole argument is a waste, in the END all you have created is more hatred for India and Indians..... another reason for pressing the N-switch before they are finished.

Instead wouldn't it be better to have a communication and understand their grievances clear their misconception, and get into a dialogue with them?. Whats the worse? either we will convince them of a better future, and change their trajectory or at least build goodwill. Anyone can take two nations on the path of war, it doesn't require brains? to make peace and have common ground does. Escalating conflicts is easy, I and I am sure WE did that as kids .....you throw one rock at me I throw 2 at you .... Hell the UPA was so stupid they couldn't figure that out ? or did they? Pakistan is headed for doom, and there is nothing I or you can do to prevent or assist that. Bottom line is that the whole Modi approach is clearly NOT working. Since the last so many years the UPA had prevented terrorist infiltration into India. They did that with DIPLOMACY not by lives of soldiers and citizens!. And that is what is expected of GOVTS, to ascertain policies with the minimum of bloodshed.Its not about being right or wrong ...its about governance.

Were the UPA cowards.... well they didn't HAVE to be brave, cause it was the military who was to do the dirty work!. TIT for TAT and oh we will be stern with them sounds like a good election campaign and will fetch you a great no. of votes.... the question is will it have positive or detrimental results is what we are worried about. People say we must do what Israel does, do we have the military advantage that Israel has? does Palestine have nukes? do we know for certain that the US. will back us the way they do Israel? Is there a difference between the size of Palestine and Pakistan in terms of size of population and area and terrain, and ideology? and most importantly, has Israel achieved peace with the Palestinians after so many years of tit -for- tat?

Pakistan is headed for doom! .... it will look the same after a N-strike as it does right now!..... Its India who has to loose. People living in glass houses (literally a well-to -do house) shouldn't throw rocks at others. India is moving towards utopia, with food and money for all...... Pakistan doesn't have ANYTHING to lose and their living is as good as being dead

RE: Economy/corruption
Also Kej/aap supporters are great at Maths!. They can also see past the Glitz and glamor, Everyone can see the PIC that is portrayed to them on the screen. It takes insight to see the picture which is not shown to you by the PAID media. Also AAP. supporters happen to be great at calculus! ..... they do understand the simple arithmetic that the media + US that was so critical of you one moment back, if it does a complete 360 degree in a jiffy, then surely there is something wrong!. Also where did the 1000's of corroes for the BJP campaign come from? clearly the people who invested in corores in the Modi campaign are gonna expect returns in Arabs right? its not that difficult to understand, is it? No businessman invests if they are not gonna get returns. Simple rule of crime scene investigation! when in doubt ...... follow the money trail!! hope that helps! I am off!

 

[Bangalorean]

Well like I said Modi FASCISTS!..... I don't feel anything if you call Kejriwal or Aap anything, but Modi supporters BELIEVE that their view is the ONLY view, and resort to calling anyone else retards. Your reaction just enunciates my claim of calling you guys Fascist!

Some AAPTards are not able to understand the simple fact that Modi is the PM of INDIA. When he goes to Australia or the US, he is not representing the BJP. This fact seems to be lost on the likes of you. So, a Paki Muslim on Twitter forwards a photoshopped image of empty stands in the US Modi event, and AAPTards gleefully retweet the image and grin and giggle. Anything that Modi does in India or out of it, is the subject of constant attacks by AAPTards.

There is a clear line between being anti-Modi and anti-India. Adani got a massive contract from Australian government, but the environmentalist bleeding heart greens of Australia started a Youtube campaign that "Adani cannot be trusted with this". Needless to say, AAPTards were plugging this video all over Twitter, accompanied by the Congoon spokesperson Priyanka Chaturvedi. Do AAPTards have no brains on when an action stops being just anti-Modi, and is clearly anti-India?

No matter how much one abused MMS, when he was called "dehati aurat", all the "Internet Hindus" rose up to defend him, Modi himself did too. But here, I see that AAPTards gleefully retweet commie anti-industry and anti-reform Tweets and participate in the orgy of leftist Modi-bashing. Kavita Krishnan tweets about how we need "people's rights" and how "capitalists should be reined in" - lines right out of 1960s USSR propaganda material. And AAPTards jump in joy and retweet.

An AAPTard on Twitter was ranting against Gujarat a few days back, screaming: "Bloody Gujarat is the only poverty-stricken state. Only businessmen are flourishing". I pointed out to the AAPTard, who happens to belong to UP, that his state was the biggest shithole in India, and lots of people from his state run to Gujarat for jobs. Wonder why! He was incensed and started yelling about how I have "slave mentality", and how Modi is a "Hitler", and all that shit.

So, understand this very clearly: you are an AAPTard not because you have divergent views. You are an AAPTard because you respond to a commie propagandist, who comes from the land of dictatorship, compares democratic process in India to the ridiculous shitheads in North Korea, and you agree with the commie propagandist, and egg him on. That is why you are an AAPTard.

 

[Kharavela]

Some AAPTards are not able to understand the simple fact that Modi is the PM of INDIA. When he goes to Australia or the US, he is not representing the BJP. This fact seems to be lost on the likes of you. So, a Paki Muslim on Twitter forwards a photoshopped image of empty stands in the US Modi event, and AAPTards gleefully retweet the image and grin and giggle. Anything that Modi does in India or out of it, is the subject of constant attacks by AAPTards.

There is a clear line between being anti-Modi and anti-India. Adani got a massive contract from Australian government, but the environmentalist bleeding heart greens of Australia started a Youtube campaign that "Adani cannot be trusted with this". Needless to say, AAPTards were plugging this video all over Twitter, accompanied by the Congoon spokesperson Priyanka Chaturvedi. Do AAPTards have no brains on when an action stops being just anti-Modi, and is clearly anti-India?

No matter how much one abused MMS, when he was called "dehati aurat", all the "Internet Hindus" rose up to defend him, Modi himself did too. But here, I see that AAPTards gleefully retweet commie anti-industry and anti-reform Tweets and participate in the orgy of leftist Modi-bashing. Kavita Krishnan tweets about how we need "people's rights" and how "capitalists should be reined in" - lines right out of 1960s USSR propaganda material. And AAPTards jump in joy and retweet.

An AAPTard on Twitter was ranting against Gujarat a few days back, screaming: "Bloody Gujarat is the only poverty-stricken state. Only businessmen are flourishing". I pointed out to the AAPTard, who happens to belong to UP, that his state was the biggest shithole in India, and lots of people from his state run to Gujarat for jobs. Wonder why! He was incensed and started yelling about how I have "slave mentality", and how Modi is a "Hitler", and all that shit.

So, understand this very clearly: you are an AAPTard not because you have divergent views. You are an AAPTard because you respond to a commie propagandist, who comes from the land of dictatorship, compares democratic process in India to the ridiculous shitheads in North Korea, and you agree with the commie propagandist, and egg him on. That is why you are an AAPTard.

I could not expect a better slap to all anti-Indian commie AAPtards. Kudos for showing mirror to such morons.

 

[prohumanity]

That's totally wrong. You'll never know China if you don't come here. A nearly 10-millions-square-kilometer, 1.3-billion-population country is not just so simple that can be drawn with only some pictures or rumors. Even natives like me daren't say "I know China well".

Welcome to the forum...friend. I agree that China is vast nation and very difficult to understand. I am very much interested to know what China's basic values and principles are as we hear all kinds of stories about how Chinese are secretive, untrustworthy and so on. I know by reading history that China is a great ancient civilization and has tremendous potential to enrich the world . Communism has somehow covered the true nature of Chinese civilization which I think is deep, intelligent and very spiritual..based on my readings of Confucianism, Tao, Budhism and Chinese art of healing.
India is also a great civilization if you are able to understand it ...by removing Communist propaganda from your mind and try to understand the symbolic and abstract nature of Indian civilization. Please be open minded and see things without prejudice. Welcome again.

 

[CCP]

Communism has somehow covered the true nature of Chinese civilization which I think is deep, intelligent and very spiritual..based on my readings of Confucianism, Tao, Budhism and Chinese art of healing.

Please be open minded and see things without prejudice.

 

[Prometheus]

I was talking about you.

You may have some good reason to hate any politician but you have been doing it compulsively.

Your analogy of comparing Modi to Hitler or any A B C or D invokes Godwin's law and it is a blogging fallacy. May be it is not for Indians but still people can call you out to present your case why Modi is a Hitler. Which means, further derailment of the thread.

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Also I would like to clear the record, that it wasn't me who disrupted a welcome thread, it was your dear friend @Bangalorean & you, who did!.

I just welcomed our new member, and said I agree with him..... If you guys are so interested in discussing the matter in detail , please do open a new thread

I would request you to open a thread with title Modi is a Hitler where you can present your case in detail than these random diatribes.

Geez thanks ... couldn't have figured that out by my self, I wouldn't know what I would've done had it not been for your expert tech support advice, thanks man!

 

[Prometheus]

Some AAPTards are not able to understand the simple fact that Modi is the PM of INDIA. When he goes to Australia or the US, he is not representing the BJP. This fact seems to be lost on the likes of you. So, a Paki Muslim on Twitter forwards a photoshopped image of empty stands in the US Modi event, and AAPTards gleefully retweet the image and grin and giggle. Anything that Modi does in India or out of it, is the subject of constant attacks by AAPTards.

There is a clear line between being anti-Modi and anti-India. Adani got a massive contract from Australian government, but the environmentalist bleeding heart greens of Australia started a Youtube campaign that "Adani cannot be trusted with this". Needless to say, AAPTards were plugging this video all over Twitter, accompanied by the Congoon spokesperson Priyanka Chaturvedi. Do AAPTards have no brains on when an action stops being just anti-Modi, and is clearly anti-India?

No matter how much one abused MMS, when he was called "dehati aurat", all the "Internet Hindus" rose up to defend him, Modi himself did too. But here, I see that AAPTards gleefully retweet commie anti-industry and anti-reform Tweets and participate in the orgy of leftist Modi-bashing. Kavita Krishnan tweets about how we need "people's rights" and how "capitalists should be reined in" - lines right out of 1960s USSR propaganda material. And AAPTards jump in joy and retweet.

An AAPTard on Twitter was ranting against Gujarat a few days back, screaming: "Bloody Gujarat is the only poverty-stricken state. Only businessmen are flourishing". I pointed out to the AAPTard, who happens to belong to UP, that his state was the biggest shithole in India, and lots of people from his state run to Gujarat for jobs. Wonder why! He was incensed and started yelling about how I have "slave mentality", and how Modi is a "Hitler", and all that shit.

So, understand this very clearly: you are an AAPTard not because you have divergent views. You are an AAPTard because you respond to a commie propagandist, who comes from the land of dictatorship, compares democratic process in India to the ridiculous shitheads in North Korea, and you agree with the commie propagandist, and egg him on. That is why you are an AAPTard.

what have you been smoking dude? I am NOT on twitter, nor am I on Instagram, but I wanna get as high as you are!

seriously you mean to say Americans are NOT allowed to criticize Obama (or Bush, before him), just because they were holding office?? I mean seriously who should they criticize Al Gore (opposition party ) and what for? is he encharge of any policies or decisions made by the president? where is the democracy in that ?

Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.