Have Bombers become obsolete in Modern warfare?

Discussion in 'Military Aviation' started by A.V., May 4, 2009.

?

Have bombers become obsolete in modern warfare?

  1. Bombers are still needed

    79 vote(s)
    66.4%
  2. Dedicated bombers not needed

    34 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. Can't say

    6 vote(s)
    5.0%
  1. Agantrope

    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2009
    Messages:
    1,247
    Likes Received:
    69
    IS it so, i dont think CM are interceptable with such a low RCS. give me any instance that any Sub-sonic Cruise missile is intercepted?
     
  2. Agantrope

    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2009
    Messages:
    1,247
    Likes Received:
    69
    When it comes to warfare there is no room for low-level intensity. Full fledged war. Bombers are mainly used for interior attack on the strategic standouts like Radars, artillery batteries.

    Missile firing is not a fun, when BM is launched a enemy can mistake for the nuke's launch, CM i think we dont have a such long range one, so when india is considered it is the only option to have a bomber
     
  3. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2009
    Messages:
    21,921
    Likes Received:
    9,248
    Bombers are far from being obsolete, In USA's new Global strike weapon ,Bombers will play a key role.
     
  4. AJSINGH

    AJSINGH Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,237
    Likes Received:
    77
    Location:
    hyderabad
    that depends how superior is your missile shield .
     
  5. nrj

    nrj Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,251
    Likes Received:
    3,355
    Location:
    Brussels
    Bombers are here to stay as they play a pivotal role in taking out critical setups.
    I just see modern fighters with far enhanced A2G power complementing present Bombers in possible similar jobs.
     
  6. average american

    average american Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    1,540
    Likes Received:
    438
    Missiles are not going to do the job they are going to average up to even a 2000 lb war head, most much smaller. Well lets assume were talking about a general purpose bomb (GP) (GP bomb will have much less explosive filler but more metal fragments)

    A 1000 pound bomb will leave a crater about 20-30 foot (depending totally on ground type and fusing)

    I would expect a 1000 pound bomb to exert around 7-8 psi past 100 foot which would total demolish a typical house and probably about 3 psi out to around 150 foot which is enough to break up light construction. Fragmentation could be lethal well past 1/2 a mile although you would not expect to see many kills that far out. In the Gulf war USA dropped 80,000 tones on bombs, that means you would need 160,000 missiles with 1000 lb war heads to do the same job, see the problem. Right now we can load 80 glide 500 lb smart on a B1 that have a range of 65 miles. So far there has never been a Air defense system that could not be defeated, look at Badhdad it was the most heavily defended city out side of Moscow and it might as well not have had any defense at all...... 21 years ago, and we have come a long way since then. Yahoo! Video Detail for First Strike Gulf War Air Campaign 1991
    2003 Yahoo! Video Detail for WAR Aviation - Shock & Awe Bombing Of Baghdad - Operation Ir

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0kcaziP-0o&feature=related
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2012
    LETHALFORCE, indian_sukhoi and SPIEZ like this.
  7. SPIEZ

    SPIEZ Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,509
    Likes Received:
    1,017
    Yes, it certainly looks that way. With no pure bombers under development, the task has been assigned to the new 5 th generation Multi Role Aircrafts
     
  8. Jim Street

    Jim Street Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    126
    Unmanned stealth bomber with very speed (Mach 6-7) IMO will be nightmare for any other country at least against few countries with significant strength.
     
  9. average american

    average american Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    1,540
    Likes Received:
    438
    Not much has changed and not much will change, if they even work. anti aircraft systems will be taken out first by missiles, then long range extend air to ground missiles, drones will come in giving off the same signatures as the stealth bombers with their hell fire missiles and smart bombs, then the glide bombs, then the stealth planes will come in an do the clean up on the antiaircraft systems, communication and control, the the big nonstealth bombers will come in with their massive bomb loads, If I am not mistaken F16, F17 F18s can carry up to 40 GBU-39 variant of the 250-pound class bomb,, normally they take off with less then a full load of fuel and are then fueled in the air. The you have the Apache with as many as 40 missiles.

    There is some rumors and I know they are more the rumors of EMP weapons, there is perhaps something like directed EMP on F22s. Think about it,, why wont we even sell it to our closest allies, why does it need so much computer power,,,,if there is room for VTOL, what else is their room for. You just seen a laser vaporise a rock on mars.
     
    SajeevJino and LETHALFORCE like this.
  10. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    33,265
    Likes Received:
    19,460
    Location:
    EST, USA
    Bombers will be extremely useful for countries like Syria, where the rebels have to be exterminated.
     
  11. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    30,964
    Likes Received:
    39,494
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    Bombers are useful in delivering big payloads where one cannot use BM specially bombs like MOAB and FOAB over enemy troops and enemy infrastructure in absence of long / medium range SAM..

    Such payload have massive destructive capability but more physiological impact on enemy moral..

     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
    sayareakd and W.G.Ewald like this.
  12. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2009
    Messages:
    21,921
    Likes Received:
    9,248
    Bombers will never be obsolete no other planes can drop tonnage of explosives like bombers.
    It would take over a dozen warplanes to equal one bomber.
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2012
    Kunal Biswas and sayareakd like this.

Share This Page