HAL Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) and Light Observation Helicopter (LOH)

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  1. Indx TechStyle

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    According to plan, it will have a JV Shakti Engine but HAL has recently successfully tested indigenously developed HTFE-25 25KN thrust Heli Engine. So, plan could be changed.
     
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    Good Luck HAL .

    RIP 30 character rule .
     
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    Good one HAL!!!

    simple design and I love simplicity, looks like this can also used as a police observation chopper...
     
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    aditya g Senior Member Senior Member

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    Microlights are used in NDA and other training establishments for adventure and sporting. Most will go to NCC. Only operational role is to scare away birds.

    Prop aircraft did perform surveillance duties in IA and IAF. They were phased out very recently:

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    What happened to its first flight ? Anyone having any news.. Please share.
     
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    HAL has 1200 KN engine in making which upon being operational can replace TURBO MACA Shakti.
     
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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    No Dhruv is above Light category and maybe classified in 5+ to category. Dhruv may get a more powerful engine very shortly with 15% additional power which will enhance its power and specification upward.
     
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    Any new on first flight ??Any new on first flight ??
     
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    Navnit Kundu Pika Hu Akbarrr!! Senior Member

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    This is good news. This will be a big blow to the French company that currently supplies those engines as India has a requirement of 800 helicopters and it will be very cost effective if the engines were Indian. In fact, it would make us internationally competitive and we can start selling to other nations too.
     
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    Yaar, phir tb toh DRDO ki dash :censored:
    They promised both LUH and LCA SP2 in February and March of last year. Now, they are saying by end of this year.
    Seriously,
    Our Navy is lucky who actually started build up with private Cos.
    Army is also wise moving towards them.
    Wish IAF also realizes it soon. :D
     
  13. Narasimh

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    Navy has most of its ships built by PSUs like MDL,GRSE,HSL, CSL etc with relatively less private involvement like L&T and now pipavav. They have managed it well with the PSUs because its work philosophy is quite different from IAF. Navy has its own design bureau and has its senior commodore and higher level officers are made to retire early from service to take charge of the Naval PSU Shipyards. IAF should do something similar and not depend on HAL and DRDO alone to get the job done. It should take proactive steps like Navy has done.
     
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    IAF knows its problems well but the fact is there is a lot of lobbying by various foreign and domestic vested interests which does not want IAF's situation to change and want it to buy their equipment always. Many MPs, politicians, Air Force officers, Media groups and bureaucrats are on the payroll of these entities.
     
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    Our PSU shipyards are not competitive.

    The fact is that there is rampant escalation in ship prices built at PSU.
     
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    The army men call iaf bania force.

    Iaf has highest capital budget and highest import content. Obviously vested interests develop that want to keep it this way.

    Aviation is a very hard field to master. It is no surprise that development of local aviation industry is taking time. However this is one area where india has high potential.
     
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    The new engine with 20% higher kW power output is called Shakti-1U.

    It's an improvement over the previous Shakti-1H1 that powers both Dhruv and LCH. Both these engines are based on the Turbomeca Ardiden design. HAL only produces them under license.

    http://www.turbomeca.com/helicopter-engines/1000-2000-shp/ardiden

    http://www.turbomeca.com/engine-partnerships/partnerships/shakti

    While thousands of crores were spent on developing turbofan engines, no-one in the MoD or HAL fraternity thought that it would be a wise idea to invest in R&D for turboshaft engines for helicopters....which are relatively less complex, and have a huge market - much bigger than for jet engines. If this were a private company, things would be very different.

    As of this part in your comment :

    "This will be a big blow to the French company that currently supplies those engines"

    Not at all....infact they're gonna get a big boost in revenue from India.
     
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  18. Navnit Kundu

    Navnit Kundu Pika Hu Akbarrr!! Senior Member

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    HTSE 1200 kW

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...for-trainer-aircraft/articleshow/50173767.cms

    This one is indigenous, Na? It's different from Shakti derivatives.
     
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    No,he is talking about HAL's HTSE-1200 turboshaft engine.
     
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    The HTSE project has just started. It'll be quite a while before its ready for production. Till then it's the Shakti-1U that will drive the chopper game forward.
     

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