IAF is too much active in EF for last couple of months. Recently seen them deploying C-17 hercules in couple or sorties per day. Would try to capture some recent pics of Rudra.
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More chopper spotting. This time ALH (correct me if am wrong though)
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this in marathalli right? Near Bellandur?More chopper spotting. This time ALH (correct me if am wrong though)
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That is not Dhruv, its Mi-8 or Mi-17More chopper spotting. This time ALH (correct me if am wrong though)
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Thanks. How did you figure that out? Would help me the next time. Does HAL work on Mi-8 and Mi-17 too?
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I figured out based on the no. of rotor blades which is 4 in case of Dhruv, the landing gears(Dhruv has skids except in Naval/CG version), and the overall shape of the chopper.
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1 Dhruv is missing in Arunachal due to bad weather
Unrelated, but look at the level of destruction where the Dhruv was carrying rescue operation.
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Indian naval satellite GSAT-7 and long-range maritime patrol aircraft P-8i had tracked 13 Chinese naval ships in the Indian Ocean over the last three months. India is also sceptical as China’s submarine deals with Myanmar, Bangladesh, and Pakistan would mean an increased number of Chinese ships floating overwhelmingly close to its littorals
New Delhi – As part of India’s ongoing mission to up its naval quotient, the Indian Navy has said that the 111 utility helicopters it intends to purchase from abroad would have submarine hunter capabilities.
According to sources, the Indian Navy is particularly interested in a design provided by one among the contending manufacturers of Russia, Europe, & the US. As per the design, the five-ton twin-engine naval utility helicopters (NUH) with wheeled landing gear and blade fold capability will have sub-surface targeting feature.
The Indian Navy has made it clear that fully configured versions of the NUH should also be capable of light anti-submarine warfare apart from the standard roles of search and rescue, observation and electronic intelligence, and anti-piracy missions.
The Indian Navy has also asked the original manufacturers to clearly indicate which torpedoes will be compatible with the helicopters?
“Will the torpedo be capable of detection and classification and engaging of submarines coated with anechoic materials, and transiting at less than 4 knots; will the torpedo have a high probability of hit (above 80 per cent) in torpedo countermeasure environment and will the torpedo be capable of navigating to ensure target acquisition with more than 50% probability, at 70% of the maximum engagement range of the torpedo?” the Indian Navy has asked.
Khanderi, India’s second Scorpene class submarine is seen in the Arabian Sea after its launch at the Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited in Mumbai, India
However, the major challenge before the Indian defense ministry is that the purchase will be made under the newly formulated strategic partnership (SP) model. “The defense procurement plan has merely outlined the framework of this initiative. Identifying a strategic partner, nominating it for helicopter manufacturer is in itself challenging,” Commodore Anil Jai Singh, former Indian Navy officer and vice president of Indian Maritime Foundation says.
Nevertheless, it is being expected that Indian government would not take much time to finalize the deal as there is a deficiency to the extent of 100 integral helicopters on existing ships. Indian warships such as INS Chennai, INS Kochi, and INS Delhi are moving without new helicopters. Indian Navy expects delivery of the light utility helicopters from 2024 onwards.
“The Navy had tried to procure the helicopters almost three years ago as well. At that time there was no SP model and yet for one reason or the other, the procurement got delayed. Thus I do not believe that the SP model will lead to any further delays in the acquisition of the said platforms,” Ankur Gupta, Vice President- Aerospace & Defense, of Ernst & Young LLP said.
Another concern would be the selection of Indian defence companies (SP). “Yes, the Indian private sector has never had the opportunity to build and supply a ‘complete’ helicopter. However, companies such as Dynamatics and TASL (TATA group) have been making entire helicopter cabins for several years now. Thus, there is a significant experience that resides in the private sector and with the progress of the SP model, these capabilities and confidence will only grow,” Ankur Gupta added.
Indian Navy has been extremely vocal about its concerns over regular visits of Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean Region.
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Indian naval satellite GSAT-7 and long-range maritime patrol aircraft P-8i had tracked 13 Chinese naval ships in the Indian Ocean over the last three months. India is also sceptical as China’s submarine deals with Myanmar, Bangladesh, and Pakistan would mean an increased number of Chinese ships floating overwhelmingly close to its littorals
New Delhi – As part of India’s ongoing mission to up its naval quotient, the Indian Navy has said that the 111 utility helicopters it intends to purchase from abroad would have submarine hunter capabilities.
According to sources, the Indian Navy is particularly interested in a design provided by one among the contending manufacturers of Russia, Europe, & the US. As per the design, the five-ton twin-engine naval utility helicopters (NUH) with wheeled landing gear and blade fold capability will have sub-surface targeting feature.
The Indian Navy has made it clear that fully configured versions of the NUH should also be capable of light anti-submarine warfare apart from the standard roles of search and rescue, observation and electronic intelligence, and anti-piracy missions.
The Indian Navy has also asked the original manufacturers to clearly indicate which torpedoes will be compatible with the helicopters?
“Will the torpedo be capable of detection and classification and engaging of submarines coated with anechoic materials, and transiting at less than 4 knots; will the torpedo have a high probability of hit (above 80 per cent) in torpedo countermeasure environment and will the torpedo be capable of navigating to ensure target acquisition with more than 50% probability, at 70% of the maximum engagement range of the torpedo?” the Indian Navy has asked.
Khanderi, India’s second Scorpene class submarine is seen in the Arabian Sea after its launch at the Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited in Mumbai, India
However, the major challenge before the Indian defense ministry is that the purchase will be made under the newly formulated strategic partnership (SP) model. “The defense procurement plan has merely outlined the framework of this initiative. Identifying a strategic partner, nominating it for helicopter manufacturer is in itself challenging,” Commodore Anil Jai Singh, former Indian Navy officer and vice president of Indian Maritime Foundation says.
Nevertheless, it is being expected that Indian government would not take much time to finalize the deal as there is a deficiency to the extent of 100 integral helicopters on existing ships. Indian warships such as INS Chennai, INS Kochi, and INS Delhi are moving without new helicopters. Indian Navy expects delivery of the light utility helicopters from 2024 onwards.
“The Navy had tried to procure the helicopters almost three years ago as well. At that time there was no SP model and yet for one reason or the other, the procurement got delayed. Thus I do not believe that the SP model will lead to any further delays in the acquisition of the said platforms,” Ankur Gupta, Vice President- Aerospace & Defense, of Ernst & Young LLP said.
Another concern would be the selection of Indian defence companies (SP). “Yes, the Indian private sector has never had the opportunity to build and supply a ‘complete’ helicopter. However, companies such as Dynamatics and TASL (TATA group) have been making entire helicopter cabins for several years now. Thus, there is a significant experience that resides in the private sector and with the progress of the SP model, these capabilities and confidence will only grow,” Ankur Gupta added.
Indian Navy has been extremely vocal about its concerns over regular visits of Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean Region.
Saturday, August 26, 2017
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i fail to understand if IN wants a 5 ton dual engine capable helicopter then what's fu(k!?g wrong with HAL Dhruv, if there is issue with sensor package or weapons it can be imported why the hell we need the whole platform that too 100 plus...
Indian naval satellite GSAT-7 and long-range maritime patrol aircraft P-8i had tracked 13 Chinese naval ships in the Indian Ocean over the last three months. India is also sceptical as China’s submarine deals with Myanmar, Bangladesh, and Pakistan would mean an increased number of Chinese ships floating overwhelmingly close to its littorals
New Delhi – As part of India’s ongoing mission to up its naval quotient, the Indian Navy has said that the 111 utility helicopters it intends to purchase from abroad would have submarine hunter capabilities.
According to sources, the Indian Navy is particularly interested in a design provided by one among the contending manufacturers of Russia, Europe, & the US. As per the design, the five-ton twin-engine naval utility helicopters (NUH) with wheeled landing gear and blade fold capability will have sub-surface targeting feature.
The Indian Navy has made it clear that fully configured versions of the NUH should also be capable of light anti-submarine warfare apart from the standard roles of search and rescue, observation and electronic intelligence, and anti-piracy missions.
The Indian Navy has also asked the original manufacturers to clearly indicate which torpedoes will be compatible with the helicopters?
“Will the torpedo be capable of detection and classification and engaging of submarines coated with anechoic materials, and transiting at less than 4 knots; will the torpedo have a high probability of hit (above 80 per cent) in torpedo countermeasure environment and will the torpedo be capable of navigating to ensure target acquisition with more than 50% probability, at 70% of the maximum engagement range of the torpedo?” the Indian Navy has asked.
Khanderi, India’s second Scorpene class submarine is seen in the Arabian Sea after its launch at the Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited in Mumbai, India
However, the major challenge before the Indian defense ministry is that the purchase will be made under the newly formulated strategic partnership (SP) model. “The defense procurement plan has merely outlined the framework of this initiative. Identifying a strategic partner, nominating it for helicopter manufacturer is in itself challenging,” Commodore Anil Jai Singh, former Indian Navy officer and vice president of Indian Maritime Foundation says.
Nevertheless, it is being expected that Indian government would not take much time to finalize the deal as there is a deficiency to the extent of 100 integral helicopters on existing ships. Indian warships such as INS Chennai, INS Kochi, and INS Delhi are moving without new helicopters. Indian Navy expects delivery of the light utility helicopters from 2024 onwards.
“The Navy had tried to procure the helicopters almost three years ago as well. At that time there was no SP model and yet for one reason or the other, the procurement got delayed. Thus I do not believe that the SP model will lead to any further delays in the acquisition of the said platforms,” Ankur Gupta, Vice President- Aerospace & Defense, of Ernst & Young LLP said.
Another concern would be the selection of Indian defence companies (SP). “Yes, the Indian private sector has never had the opportunity to build and supply a ‘complete’ helicopter. However, companies such as Dynamatics and TASL (TATA group) have been making entire helicopter cabins for several years now. Thus, there is a significant experience that resides in the private sector and with the progress of the SP model, these capabilities and confidence will only grow,” Ankur Gupta added.
Indian Navy has been extremely vocal about its concerns over regular visits of Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean Region.
Saturday, August 26, 2017
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HAL Gets Orders for 41 Advanced Light Helicopters
Ms. Nidhi Chhibber, Joint Secretary & Acquisition Manager (Land System), MoD and Mr. V Natarajan, Executive Director (Helicopter)-HAL exchanging the contract documents for ALH orders in New Delhi recently,
Bengaluru, September 4, 2017:
The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited signed one more contract for supply of Advanced Light Helicopters (ALH). The contract is for 40 ALH to the Indian Army and one to the Indian Navy.
“The latest order reflects the trust on HAL’s capabilities and gives an impetus to make-in-India campaign. It reposes faith of Indian Defence forces in indigenous ALH which has been serving them with distinction for a long time”, says Mr. T. Suvarna Raju, CMD-HAL.
The contracts for supply of 41 ALHs amounting around Rs 6100 crores will be executed in a period of 60 months. The contract was signed between MoD and HAL in New Delhi recently. Officials from MoD, Indian Army, Indian Navy and HAL were present during the event.
In March this year HAL had signed a contract for supply of 32 ALH to boost the maritime security capabilities of the Indian Navy (IN) and Indian Coast Guard (ICG).
http://www.hal-india.com/HAL Gets Orders/ND__206
Ms. Nidhi Chhibber, Joint Secretary & Acquisition Manager (Land System), MoD and Mr. V Natarajan, Executive Director (Helicopter)-HAL exchanging the contract documents for ALH orders in New Delhi recently,
Bengaluru, September 4, 2017:
The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited signed one more contract for supply of Advanced Light Helicopters (ALH). The contract is for 40 ALH to the Indian Army and one to the Indian Navy.
“The latest order reflects the trust on HAL’s capabilities and gives an impetus to make-in-India campaign. It reposes faith of Indian Defence forces in indigenous ALH which has been serving them with distinction for a long time”, says Mr. T. Suvarna Raju, CMD-HAL.
The contracts for supply of 41 ALHs amounting around Rs 6100 crores will be executed in a period of 60 months. The contract was signed between MoD and HAL in New Delhi recently. Officials from MoD, Indian Army, Indian Navy and HAL were present during the event.
In March this year HAL had signed a contract for supply of 32 ALH to boost the maritime security capabilities of the Indian Navy (IN) and Indian Coast Guard (ICG).
http://www.hal-india.com/HAL Gets Orders/ND__206
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18 Rudra armed helos among the 40 Dhruvs for the Indian Army.
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I was about to write that 41 Dhruv for almost $1 billion sounds rather steep but if 18 Rudra is included then it is reasonable, I think.
Either Armed forces or HAL or both are probably not using Dhruv assembly lines in a more efficient manner.
Either Armed forces or HAL or both are probably not using Dhruv assembly lines in a more efficient manner.
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Seriously, IA needs to adopt a more sensible camo for their Rudras, Black is an absurd choice and will make the bird an easier target- especially in the mountains and deserts (where she is epxected to serve mostly).
That works out to about $23m per helo- a very very reasonable cost for advanced helos of this class and the cost will include spares. These are going to be Mk.3 and 4 (Rudras) so will come with the latest avionics, electronic counter measures and weapons (for Rudra).
What does that mean?
For Army the number is around 120 now, IAF has 65 Rudras on order.
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@abingdonboy Honestly man, I was hoping economies of scale would have had kicked in by now. $23 million a piece is not too shabby but it is same as Mi-17V5. Plus, Dhruv used to cost roughly half as much just a few years ago.
Recent orders of LSP LCH is costing around $30 million each. Maybe, Rudra is in the similar range, hence the bloated figure.
It's either that or GOI is doing some stuff they don't want to disclose.
Recent orders of LSP LCH is costing around $30 million each. Maybe, Rudra is in the similar range, hence the bloated figure.
It's either that or GOI is doing some stuff they don't want to disclose.
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