Gun battle in Dhaka

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  1. rock127

    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    All that needs a good strategy and vision.

    MODI was able to settle the decades long border dispute peacefully with BD and in addition investment in BD as well.We need him for 2 terms at least.

    Pakis are hell bent on destroying BD and punish them for not being their slaves.
     
  2. Bengal_Tiger

    Bengal_Tiger Regular Member

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    A couple of corrections to educate you.

    1. Bangladesh is an independent sovereign state which has not had foreign military bases unlike Pakistan which:

    - Has US drones bombing Pakistani nationals
    - Has US troops going in to Abbotabad to kill bin Laden
    - Has Gulf Arab royalty using Pakistan as a hunting ground in contravention of Pakistani laws.

    You are a state with little self-respect, no sovereignty and seen as a traitor by many Afghans for siding with non-Muslim America against Muslims after 9/11 despite being a "nuclear power.

    The "Bangladesh is an Indian vassal state" is a Pakistani lie which basically means "we are angry Bangladesh is trying to have normal relations with India".

    If we were a vassal state why are we arming rapidly primarily with Chinese arms.


    2. Turkey only supported Pakistan because it is led by an ISIS supporter who has issues with everyone including Russia, the EU, Israel, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, the Kurds.

    Erdogan is from the Milli Gorus, which is the Turkish version of the Muslim Brotherhood and ideologically linked to Jamaat e Islami.

    Anyway Turkish support for Pakistan is overrated. There were no Turkish volunteers that fought in Kashmir and in Afghanistan, Turkey trains the forces for the supposed "anti-Pakistan" Kabul government, and it also supports anti-Pakistani leader, Dostum.


    3. Those Jamaatis "fought for Pakistan", but they raped and murdered.

    For you that's fine because murdering and raping for Pakistaniyaat is justified, because what is Pakistaniyaat other than murder, rape, terror and evil.


    4. Afghanistan is getting stronger day by day and has a nascent air force in its embryonic stage which only get bigger and more powerful. One day Afghanistan will be like Iran which sometimes sends its forces inside Pakistan to kill Pakistani soldiers and civilians and even occupy Pakistani villages for hours as they have done before.

    You are a failed terrorist state that has raped and slaughtered more Muslims than Israel.
     
  3. Bengal_Tiger

    Bengal_Tiger Regular Member

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    Totally true.

    They have been badmouthing us to other Muslim countries including the wealthy gulf Arabs, but that tactic isn't as effective as before for a couple of reasons and plus the gulf Arabs e.g. Saudi are angry at the Pakistani betrayal over Yemen.

    The Pakistanis want us to be their slaves and superimpose their vicious hatred of India/Hindus on us thinking that by default we "must" have such a hatred, when to their surprise we do not they are shocked. Any attempt to have normal relations with India is called "Being a puppet state of India".
     
  4. Screambowl

    Screambowl Ghanta Senior Member? Senior Member

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    Only 11), 8) , 3) , 5) and 7) Should be done first

    Rest should follow only after cleansing is over. Because It is easy to contain them in Bangladesh, if these people sneak into India and then Nepal it will be tough to trace them and will take time.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    Thank you for a thoughtful post. Very good points.

    Now, I have a few things to add, and this follows from the Wahhabi money you mentioned.

    I would actively consider helping all the elements that are trying to topple the Saudi regime. The Houthis come to mind. Even Iran needs to be taken aboard.

    For me, people of Bangladesh and Pakistan, historical acrimony notwithstanding, are our own flesh and blood. We have to fight terror from these countries, as much as we have to fight home grown terror, but we cannot ignore the root cause. It is about time to plan for the complete decimation of the Saudi regime, who, once taken out, will take the steam out of all these Wahhabi brainwashing cells, and help reduce the radicalization of the youth of the subcontinent.


    Sour grapes much? During the recent enclave-exclave exchange between India and BD, BD actually gained territory while India lost territory. This wouldn't have happened if BD were a slave state.
    Pretty well. Those that fled in 1971/72, were settled in various parts of India, including WB, MP, and Andamans. That window was closed within a few years after the independence of BD.

    After that, India has a policy of not allowing illegal immigration from anywhere, and this is not limited to BD.

    When will Pakistan take back its Razakars who live in concentration camps in BD, have little to no rights, and have been living in hell for generations?
     
  7. Kshatriya87

    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Agreed about the Saudi regime. But get rid just of Saudis won't help the cause as Iran is equally involved in terrorism. Both need to be taken care of.

    As for the pakistanis and bangladeshis, flesh doesn't matter if the people are mentally altered and keen on seeing the destruction of India. I'm not saying go out these and kill them all but at the same time I'm not keen on giving them a helping hand either.
     
  8. Kshatriya87

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    Mumbai Shias, Sunnis had sought action against preacher
    Mohammed Wajihuddin| TNN | Jul 6, 2016, 12.59 AM IST


    Mumbai: Islamic preacher Zakir Naik, a radical leader followed by some of the Dhaka killers, has regularly courted controversies. One of his utterances had so angered Muslims in the city that they had pressured the police to put a stop to his "peace conferences". Naik has not been able to hold the conclaves in the city since 2011.


    Besides refusing to dub Osama bin Laden a terrorist, one of the reasons why the UK banned him in 2010, Naik had earned the ire of city Muslims — both Shias and Sunnis — by praising Yazid. Naik had used the expression 'Radiallahtalaanho' (May Allah be pleased with him) for Yazid in 2007. Yazid is a despised figure in Islamic history as his army had massacred the Prophet's grandson Imam Hussain and his companions at the Battle of Karbala in 680.
     
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  9. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    My hypothesis is that if the source of the funding of this Wahhabi ideology is destroyed, over a period of time, the terrorism coming our of the neighbouring countries will also dry out. Of course, we have to fight terrorism. We cannot let down our guard. Our BSF, CRPF, etc., are being attacked all the time. The thing is, while we are fighting fire on the home front, let's do something about the source of this ideology which is also the course of the funding.
     
  10. Kshatriya87

    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Agreed on taking out the source. But India can't get involved in a fight with Saudi. All hell might break lose within India itself. Also, attack on Saudi by Americans or such won't be an easy task given the recent alliance they made with 20 countries.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    Why can't India get involved?

    I am not saying sent Indian troops. I am saying arm and support those trying to topple that regime.

    Moreover, the so called alliance won't work long. Saudi Arabia is in trouble. Oil prices have come down. The US now is a competitor to Saudi oil. Most of the alliance members are also oil states, who are also competing with the US. The utility of petro-dollar is gone. Now, the US is looking for a way to slowly let down Saudi and they are more of a liability than anything else.
     
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    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Because of Indian muslims. Although we can rest assured that their agitation will be controlled if we only just supply weapons.
     
  13. Tony HMG

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    I am not blaming our security forces. The issue is political will of our leadership from past many decades. Our forces & intelligence have been bogged down by the pussy footing done by the consecutive governments. I dont see this changing in the near future.
     
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    spikey360 Crusader Senior Member

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    It is funny how Islam has removed all distinctions of class with the help of terrorism. Kasab the son of a poor Pakistani kills innocents, so does Imtiaassz, son of a rich Bangladeshi.
    Bravo Islam. 'Religion of peace', indeed.
     
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    While SHW/BAL successfully fooled their mentor India into believing BNP-Jama'at were the main hindrance for a peaceful society in BD, this scourge gathered steam quietly. Now it is here. And the nature of the phenomenon is such that it will overflow. Jama'at-BNP follow Westminster type of parliamentary democracy. But myopic Indian policy makers have been duped to believe otherwise. As a member in this forum I have endeavored always to caution all on the dangerous situation evolving out of the unnatural and exclusive romance between India and BAL. The Western Satan will be most pleased as they are in Iraq-Syria. Fishing is easier in muddy water.
     
  17. Ancient Indian

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    Only Razakar people like you can find things unnatural.
    India can do many good things to Bangladesh. But people like you always see dark side to it.

    Why Admins tolerate terrorists like you is beyond my understanding. Your presence alone makes the thread stinky.

    Your nation fed your grandparents, it is feeding your family. It will feed your next generation. Why you hate your mother land this much, is beyond comprehension levels.

    What can pak give you, man? They are eating gutters in their country and their lands are soaked in innocent people's blood.
    You want to bring this fate to your country also?
    Show humanity dude.
    If your religion and stupid obsession with pak is more important to you than your nation, there will be no redemption for you.

    I hope your month long fasting made you sane in this holy month.
     
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    Now this ...................................

     
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    India has not forgotten the conduct of BNP- Jamaat when they were in power and how they were allowing the Pakistanis / ISI to operate from the Bangladeshi soil... with whatever short comings of SHW it is far better than BNP-Jamaat...

    Jamaat and its sister organization are responsible for the current killings... SHW should start conducting the encounter killings of these Pigs ...
     
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    Screambowl Ghanta Senior Member? Senior Member

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    US has no much interest in Bangladesh apart from some good textile. Do you think B'desh is too important for them that they will invest money in all this? BS!

    What B'desh is going through is home grown terrorism funded by ISI and mistakes of your leaders and people that you allowed such elements to grow which are now creating havoc.

    B'desh is not a country which should play with fire. If B'desh thinks that they have capability like ISI or RAW or CIA then you guys are mistaken. Neither you have money nor tactics to come and get involved in this game. This will destabilize you totally.
     
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