Discussion in 'Europe and Russia' started by The Messiah, Nov 3, 2011.
Hopefully the greeks decide to vote against the austerity
Hopefully this will be the beggining of the end of European Union... c'mon Greeks, fight for Your independence from these morrons in Brussels, and inspire other to fight for their freedom!
You want poland to break away ?
I think poland has benefited more.
The referendum is only on accepting the bailout, not the EU or the Euro.
If they say screw you to germany and france then you think they have any future in the EU ?
Of course, all patriots in our country want to go out this sick thing called EU, look at other countries, they want this in UK, even many Germans want to break off EU.
Look what these morons are doing, they are increasing debt in all EU countries, they are destroying our economys, they are wasting money for useless initiatives, they are increasing taxes making people more poor. So:
No we not, because many improvements were made by using foreing money, not money made by our economy, this is like debt, and it is debt, debt that is increasing each day, hour, minute, second.
All western world is sick, and this cancer is called socialism, one of forms of this socialism is EU.
Do You know what these bastards were doing to make my country less competetive? They were bulling (with succes) our goverment to increase taxes, soon we will have probably next taxes increase making our life even harder.
Listen what about EU are talking such people like Nigel Farage or Daniel Hannan, and they are talking not only about UK problems, but also about problems of each country in EU. And great respect for them, that they have a courage, to stand against these tyrants, liers and thiefs that are steeling our money, freedom and whant to destroy in the end our sovereignty.
These left wing fucktards are allready wanting to block our Independence March organized by patriotic movements, calling normal citizens and patriots fascists and nazis.
But this is not worst what these people are doing, what are they doing to Greece is even more horrible, horrible was when they bullied Slovakia to give money for Greece even when Slovakian Parliment voted against. This is how worth are rights of each nation for EU.
So yes, it will be a huge holliday for me and patriots in all European nations, when EU finally collapse.
They can't say screw you or they lose their pension system. $30 billion worth of it in Greek Bonds is in jeopardy of being wiped out.
It is better for them to screw Euro, bankrupt now, bring back Drahma, devaluate it, than bankrupt later with Euro.
Of course there are many reasons why current Freanch and Germans goverments are against this, even if more and more countries using Euro will bankrupt in future.
More and more people should realize that this system just don't work.
I sold all my stock holdings yesterday. I was burned the first time Greece thithered on bankrupcy. This latest development is really bad news. Italy is threatening to be sucked into the vortex of bankrupcy - the dark side of capitalism and globalised economy. Now Athens is the center of the World again as the World waits for developments from the Greek capital...
Don't worry, it will just end era of controled free market, and after some bad years we will back to normality. We just need such catharsis.
I would agree. But this would be bad news for the markets at leats on the short term.
This one currency concept has been a dismal failure. Good thing USA did not push the Amero idea of one currency for Canada,US,Mexico.
Short term is better option than long term.
What is it that is prompting the call of referendum?
Is it just domestic politics as the article suggests?
Is china playing its cards back door of a spoiler to the EU?
Could china step in to foot in the bill for Greece, if Greece was to decide on giving up on EU?
Can someone please clarify? Thanks.
So they're wanting to return back to Drachma? I don't think Eurozone really suits the Greek economy well. Considering that they're worst case in European Union and that France and Germany seem to be bailing out everybody, I think EU should cease and there should be a return to the old system of individual currencies.
But dissolution of the Euros would make Dollar the most dominant world reserve currency with only alternatives left as British Pounds, Chinese Renmibi, German Mark and Indian Rupee (I don't want this to happen as of yet).
Why the hell You are so affraid USD as main currency? It worked well in the past it will work well in future, what USD need is a reform and back to the gold standard, if this will happen everything should be ok.
And the more currencies over the world, the better it will be, we all know that decentralisation is a good thing.
Because then the yanks can keep on printing unlimited dollars without its value depreciating.
I for one dont want that or usa to remain superpower.
In other news the greek pm has canceled the referendum
If they will give chance to people like Ron Paul and people from his camp, situation should change for better, better for US and for the rest of world.
On the other hand I want USA as a superpower, mainly because they are the only superpower where people belive that they can change the world for better without conquering it with military means... something very unique and positive.
But I know I know, You belive that Yanks = Devils, and everybody should love Che Guevara that was a mass murderer.
He is idiot... or maybe not, I just heard the rethoric of these eurocrats and I wonder if any country if it want will let be out of EU or they will force such country to stay by any means possible, and I fear the worst.
You see you and me want the same thing for different reasons. Id love nothing better than hardcore right wingers to gain power in usa because they'll weaken it even more.
If che is a mass murderer then so are the allies in europe because they executed nazis after the war or what about after the yank civil war, mr lincoln is a saint aint he
Typical socialist babble talk. You have no idea about what right wing is and about free capitalist economy. Look at PRC, they actually besides official ideology said fuck you socialistm and hey, they have one of the most quickly growing economy on this planet. If people let back normality to our countries (west) we will once again be strong.
I say this easier:
Give us lower taxes, we will be less poor, we will buy more, companys will have more money for investitions and for workers, eliminate social spending, people will start working, because it will be more profitable than using public money, and because people will be less poor, they will be buying more goods, companys will have more work, more work means more workers needed, everything that = economy growth.
Of course, there will be interim stage where situation will not be beatifull, but it is better than slowly die and bankrupt because of socialist economy made by left wing politicians.
There ae no saints, but Che was one ugly motherfucker, it is good that someone get rid that piece of shit out of face of earth, pitty that more socialists were not killed... fucking cancer.
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