Greece - SYRIZA, in the margin of the Eurozone

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You should leave EU, mentally and economically you are on their level more than in EU level. Both EU and Greece will benefit if you leave. Russians will buy your cheese and Indians will sell you small and cheap cars and clothes. Chinese tourists will come for cheap drakma. Also makes room for Turkey to join EU.
 

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Brics bank has a packet of 20B for Greece .. for the mid run.. if asked..
we will know by the end o June .. maybe earlier
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The problem at the moment is that the ruling fraction in Syriza they dont want to break entirely with EU .. something like Stocholme syndrome..
The left part .. wants to break.. so does the mild nationalistic party of ANEL ..(in the goverment also..)
will see
it's down to egos. I don't think EU will allow greece to leave.
I foresee , in the worst case scenario ... a slow decadence
 

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You should leave EU, mentally and economically you are on their level more than in EU level. Both EU and Greece will benefit if you leave. Russians will buy your cheese and Indians will sell you small and cheap cars and clothes. Chinese tourists will come for cheap drakma. Also makes room for Turkey to join EU.
No need to leave Euro ( leaving EU is almost meaningless) . We can default within Euro. And thats Merkels nightmare. ELA will be be replaced from the ΒRICS bank..
So EU will have Greece with euro .. defaulted .. and bank supported from BRIKS..
I cannot imagine something better..

so lets see who will chiken first.
 

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it's down to egos. I don't think EU will allow greece to leave.
I foresee , in the worst case scenario ... a slow decadence
EU is realy mixed up on what to do
Strategicly they dont want to loose Greece because they know Greece wilL open a big hug to Russia..
on the other side .. Merkel does't want to pay the bill..

And Greeks say .. SHOW ME THE MONEY ...!!!
 

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on the left of SYRIZA is KKe , communist party of Greece.
Its the most Stalinist party in the world .. with 6-8% at the moment and strong mobilazasion capabilities


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on the far right is the Ultra nationalists of Golden dawn (XA) with strongly pro Russian stand ..

So if they want Greece .. they have to pay big money.. 30 Billion for the next 5 years ..
 

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@arpakola - how is the general Greek sentiment regarding Russia? Lately, many positive feelers sent to Russia by your govt., but what is the feeling of common guy?
 

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@arpakola - how is the general Greek sentiment regarding Russia? Lately, many positive feelers sent to Russia by your govt., but what is the feeling of common guy?
Generaly speaking very positive for the majority of the populations and in the Army
But still there is a strong core of "Atlandists" in the SYRIZA party ( Filis, Papadimoulis, etc,..) and in the Right wing ND party.. also.
 

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http://rt.com/business/264049-greece-turkish-stream-invetsment/
Greece plans to sign a document on political support for Gazprom’s Turkish Stream project at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in June, its Energy Minister announced on Monday. The country plans to invest $2 billion in its construction.

A memorandum on political support for the gas pipeline project will be prepared by June 18-20, when the International Economic Forum (SPIEF-2015) will be held in Russia’s St. Petersburg, Greek Energy Minister Panagiotis Lafazanis announced on Monday.

Right there we will try to sign an agreement, a so-called ‘memorandum’ on the political support of the said gas pipeline between Greece and Russia,” the minister said, as quoted by TASS. Greece “will be proactively drafting a document,” the official added.

READ MORE: US urges Greece to reject Turkish Stream, focus on Western-backed project

Greece’s part of the pipeline, which will be delivering Russia’s gas on from the Turkish border, will cost some $2 billion, Lafazanis said in an interview with the Rossiya24 channel. The minister said that a Greek state company will be involved in the project, adding that there has been “big interest” from many companies wishing to take part in the construction and future operation of the pipeline.



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Tur
rkiish Stream will make Greece Europe’s energy hub- Putin


The project could contribute not only to economic development in Greece, but positively affect the whole region, the minister said. Up to 20,000 jobs could be created if the project is realized, he said, expressing his confidence that “the people of Greece will benefit from it.”

Russian president Vladimir Putin has previously expressed his belief that, by joining the project, Greece could become one of the main power distribution centers in Europe. Athens could earn hundreds of millions of euros annually from gas transit fees, Putin said during Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’ official visit to Moscow in April.

READ MORE: Greece to be effective partner with Russia’s Gazprom - Forbes

Plans to construct the Turkish Stream pipeline were announced by Russia’s gas giant Gazprom last year. The new project replaces the South Stream project, which Russia was forced to withdraw from due to EU objections over its construction.

The new pipeline, which Gazprom plans to build from Turkey to the border with Greece, will be part of the Turkish Stream project aimed at delivering Russian gas to Europe without the participation of Ukraine. Russia intends to completely abandon its gas supplies through Ukraine by 2019. The EU would construct the pipelines leading further on from Greece.
 

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It may be that the greek govt. sells assets of private citizens. maybe @arpakola can not be on the forum anymore then. ;)
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of your sword
,
I recognize you by the gleam (in your eyes)
with which you rapidly survey the earth.
From the sacred bones,
of the Hellenes arisen,
and valiant again as you once were,
hail, o hail, Liberty.. ]









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