Gold imports destroying Indian economy?

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India imports Gold worth 2.15 trillion Rupees

Rs 2,150,000,000,000: that's our gold import bill this year

Indians are piling into gold like never before.

The latest import-export data released on Friday shows that India imported $41.4 billion worth of gold and silver in the April-November period of this financial year. That's over Rs 2,15,000 crore at current exchange rates. The imports are a record 56 percent higher than the corresponding period of last year.

What's going on?

Are Indians buying more jewellery? No. According to the World Gold Council, overall demand for jewellery fell marginally from 472 to 464 tonnes in the first nine months of calendar 2011, but investment demand went up by a quarter to 296 tonnes.


If gold imports are curbed, there could be an increase in smuggling – but this may be economically better than to let the rupee slide indefinitely. Reuters

Indians, traditional gold lovers, are finding the metal unaffordable to make jewellery, but are still buying it as a form of investment – because the value of everything else is being destroyed by double-digit inflation.

In fact, the doughty Indian is stocking up on gold for the same reason the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) did in November 2009, when it bought 200 tonnes from the IMF – to preserve the value of wealth. With the future of the euro and the dollar uncertain, it made sense for the RBI to diversify. In its forex kitty, the best returns have come from gold.

Ditto for the aam Indian. Over the last one year, gold has yielded a return of nearly 25 percent.

The macro picture is interesting. Next to petroleum products, which accounted for $94.1 billion of imports in April-November, India's biggest import is gold.

These massive imports are tipping the external trade balance heavily against us, and Commerce Secretary Rahul Khullar says that the overall trade deficit will be in the range of $155-160 billion in 2011-12.

In the remaining four months of the year, we will surely see further gold imports – say another $10-20 billion worth. It means nearly a third of our trade gap–thanks to our gold-lust.

Since the rupee's value is influenced by the current account deficit – the gap between out total foreign exchange earnings and remittances before accounting for capital flows – gold is an important tipping factor in the value of the rupee.

The paradox is that as the rupee depreciates, inflation worsens since imported goods cost more in rupee terms. And when inflation worsens, it makes more sense to hold gold to retain the value of your wealth. But as more gold is imported, it skews out trade gap, contributing to the rupee's weakness.

The upshot: what is smart investment for the average Indian is making things worse for the country. If the government wants to cut down its current account deficit and ease the pressure on the rupee, it should try and curb gold imports in the short term.

Of course, this will have some negative implications, too. If gold imports are curbed, there could be an increase in smuggling – but this may be economically better than to let the rupee slide indefinitely.

When gold soaks up a part of the domestic money supply, it reduces overall demand and curbs inflation.

No gold-loving Indian is going to love me for saying this, but it's time to restrain gold imports till the rupee and the current account balance stabilise.

Rs 2,150,000,000,000: that’s our gold import bill this year | Firstpost
 

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makes sense.

when investors are not confident in currencies, they will usually go for gold/silver instead.
 

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When the world returns to the gold standard, the greenback will make for good toilet paper. Turn of the decade I guess. The aam admi's investment will start making sense then.
 
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When the world returns to the gold standard, the greenback will make for good toilet paper. Turn of the decade I guess.
I sincerely hope the world returned to the gold standard and moreover, if the US returned to the gold standard, the trust in US$ will actually be affirmed and that is what Ron Paul has been proposing, i.e. to emulate the Austrian system that prohibits printing money out of thin air without having enough gold reserves to back up the about-to-enter-circulation currency.
 

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It is a result of Indians investing in Gold more and more to take advantage of rising price/hedge. Earlier it all ended up as exquisite ornaments. Now its more about coins and biscuits!!
 

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The price is getting in to unsustainable level, this has to come down :)
 

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Is there any hop of the rupee stabilizing itself in the near future.........
Simple. Target those who have been lobbying to inflate the currency. Grab the honchos, past and present, from mainly export oriented companies, take away money from them (calculated on how much they exported and how much they benefited from the inflation) and then take those currency notes and simply incinerate them. Once that happens, automatically the value of the Rupee will climb up. There will be a shock and ripple effect, but mark my words, the low income group masses will actually benefit, so don't expect any uprising.
 

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The reasons for the fall in Rupee are:-
1. Increased demand for dollars due to a spurt in crude oil prices and the flight of foreign funds from the Indian market. Demand for rupees has dipped because capital inflows are down.
2. FIIs are believed to have sold Indian equities worth millions. These foreign investors are getting out of the Indian markets due to the current slowdown in the nation's economy and rising global uncertainties.
3. Lack of economic reforms, policy paralysis, scams etc.
4. The rising interest rates - RBI has been increasing interest rates like crazy, to curb inflation. See whats happened, the birb brains in the RBI have increased the cost of production, hence manufacturing and agricultural sectors have slowed down.
5. Growing trade deficit.
6. Paying higher prices for crude oil (due to poor foreign policies).

All these factors have to be considered.
 

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There is no gold bubble. We are not in a gold bubble. A bubble occurs only when there is a cycle of high demand leading to oversupply. e.g. the mortgage crisis and the real estate bubble in China. High demand for gold does not result in Oversupply. It cant be made out of thin air. Gold is a safe investment. I dont know if there will be massive upside to gold prices all of a sudden, but there will never be massive downside either. The plateu right now of 1600 - 1700 is where it will stay for sometime before paper money loses more value due to inflation and gold moves up further to correct accordingly.
But what do I know, I am just like anyone else here : Keyboard Warrior.

btw. hint hint: Why the sudden rush by Chinese to buy gold. They has never been any historical affinity to the metal like we have in India.
 

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Gold is the safest place to be with currencies losing value. Dollar has decline 50% last 4 years and Gold has increased 50%+ in the last year.
LF, isnt there a bubble in gold already? though yes its the currency that is losing value that the gold is appreciating but still.
A layman's understanding - a tale of two Indian citizens, Ram and Shyam.

Premise:
Ram has Rs. 1000.
Shyam has Rs. 1000.
Rs. 1000 = x kg of gold.

Implication:
Both Ram and Shyam own x kg of gold each, but the gold is with Reserved Bank.

After some time, N. Murthy lobbies the govt. to inflate the currency to boost his company's exports.
Ram reacts: Ram buys 0.5 x kg of gold for Rs. 500 and is left with Rs. 500.
Shyam reacts: Shyam does not care. He hangs on to Rs. 1000.
RBI reacts: They inflate the currency by printing more notes so that now Rs. 1000 = 0.9 x kg of gold.

End results in net worth:
Ram has: Rs. 500 + 0.5 x kg of gold = 0.45 x kg of gold + 0.5 x kg of gold = 0.95 x kg of gold.
Shyam has: Rs. 1000 = 0.9 x kg of gold.

Now, Ram is wealthier than Shyam. Who wins in the meanwhile? N. Murthy!



@ LethalForce:

I agree with you. Unless there is a sudden discovery of large deposits of gold, like it happened with silver, gold is the safest place to invest in these days of inflation.
 
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It beats buying up unrented property and watching it lose 50% of its value.
 

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It beats buying up unrented property and watching it lose 50% of its value.
Very good observation.

Indeed, unrented property is something you don't want to invest in.

Get a property in a boom town, where local companies are hiring and factories are coming up. Then you will have a lot of potential tenants. That way, your rent payments will pay for the mortgage, in part of in full, over a period of time and you will have some money to keep for profit even after maintenance.

However, unrented property means you don't have income and you have to pay property tax and you will have to keep spending on maintenance.

  • Rented property - asset.
  • Unrented property - liability.
 

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There are only about $6.5 trillion worth of unrented property in China = liability
 

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Gold is the safest place to be with currencies losing value. Dollar has decline 50% last 4 years and Gold has increased 50%+ in the last year.
[/U]]Inflation Hedge

"The rise in gold prices is not supported by demand."




Soros Sees Gold Prices on Brink of Bear Market - Bloomberg"'End of Road'

Dennis Gartman, the economist and author of the Suffolk, Virginia-based Gartman Letter, said Dec. 13 that traders were witnessing the "death of a bull." He sold the last of his gold the previous day and said Dec. 23 his outlook was neutral. The "megatrend" in bullion is "in all likelihood near the end of the road," Markus Mezger, co-founder of Zug, Switzerland-based Tiberius Asset Management AG, which manages about $2.5 billion of assets, said in its 2012 outlook report on Dec. 23.

Eton Park Capital Management LP, founded by 44-year-old Mindich, sold the last of its SPDR Gold Trust (GLDNV) shares in the third quarter, according to SEC data. The holding was valued at $135 million based on the average price over those three months. Jonathan Gasthalter, a spokesman for the New York-based company, declined to comment.


Touradji Capital Management LP, led by its 40-year-old founder, sold all of its shares in the SPDR Gold Trust in the first three months of the year before buying back about 26 percent of that stake in the third quarter, the data show. Its largest holding in publicly traded equities remains Barrick Gold Corp. (ABX), the world's biggest miner of the metal. Prelog, also a spokesman for Touradji, declined to comment."
 

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@ LethalForce:

I agree with you. Unless there is a sudden discovery of large deposits of gold, like it happened with silver, gold is the safest place to invest in these days of inflation.

You should have invested in gold 10 years ago... Gold prices rose steadily because precisely of the initial reaction of its relative safety. But with the onrush of investors seeking safety in gold due jitters in World economy came also the pouring of special funds that cornered and hoarded gold with the intention of creating artificial scarcity, gold prices as a result rose dramatically... But now with the economy of the US showing signs of a rebound gold is losing its investment luster and investors of gold are poised to get out of it.
 

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You should have invested in gold 10 years ago... Gold prices rose steadily because precisely of the initial reaction of its relative safety. But with the onrush of investors seeking safety in gold due jitters in World economy came also the pouring of special funds that cornered and hoarded gold with the intention of creating artificial scarcity, gold prices as a result rose dramatically... But now with the economy of the US showing signs of a rebound gold is losing its investment luster and investors of gold are poised to get out of it.
However, inflation is not going down. Ideally, inflation should be zero. If there was no inflation in the US since the 70s, we would have gotten a gallon of gasoline for a dime today instead of having to shell out over $3. Overall, the amount of gold that a dollar can buy is always going down. What are you going to do about it? God price rise is a matter of high demand and limited supply. However, gold prices will definitely not go down below a certain level.



Do you think gold prices will ever come down to the stable levels of the early 30s?
 

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^^

And that will trigger a drop in gold prices. However, remember, currency has no value without gold. All that you are saying is using currency as the standard and evaluating gold w.r.t. the currency. It should be the other way around.

High gold price means each currency unit is worth less gold and low gold price means each currency unit is worth more gold.

Investors will dump gold only if the worth of currency goes up and that can only happen when (1) the economy picks up by mineral, industrial or agricultural production; and (2) (this is very important), if the most circulated currency (or currencies) is stable and people don't keep printing currency bills out of thin air.
 

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