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CCP is bound to brainwash Chinese public against the success of both Indian civilization and Indian democracy.
you expect a snake to hug you and say I love you? They are communist and India is democratic. Its a very basic fact.

The point is being democratic India has failed till now to be a good advertiser. India has failed to present democratic values. Who gave a damn about India a decade back? None!
Why because in India it's own people pull down the image of democratic values in India.
 

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you expect a snake to hug you and say I love you? They are communist and India is democratic. Its a very basic fact.

The point is being democratic India has failed till now to be a good advertiser. India has failed to present democratic values. Who gave a damn about India a decade back? None!
Why because in India it's own people pull down the image of democratic values in India.
Democracy means nothing to our image without a decent level of wealth. If 1/3rd of our population is going to bed hungry, and our cities look like giant sewer pits, then it is irrelevant to the world whether or not we can vote every 5 years. As Indians, it is very important for us if we have democratic rights, but unless we translate these democratic rights into actual economic and civilizational strength, we just become a meme of a naked sadhu saying that he is the freest man in the world.

Secondly, the western mainstream media needs to be BOUGHT, not impressed. We need to start funding various international media outlets behind the scenes to show the side of India that we want to be shown internationally. The Chinese and the Gulf countries have been doing this effectively. You don't hear about everyday killings of muslims in China or of workers dying in their factories due to poor safety conditions. But if you see the news about India, almost every single day, western MSM reports about rape, corruption, caste politics etc. This is not because they care so much about our people, rather, this is a propaganda campaign against Indian civilization itself. Brazil has FAR more crime, including rape and murder, than India. So do Mexico, Kenya, and many other developing countries. But these countries have not been targeted the way India has been targeted. The need of the hour is to infiltrate and manipulate these media houses to our advantage.
 

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Democracy means nothing to our image without a decent level of wealth. If 1/3rd of our population is going to bed hungry, and our cities look like giant sewer pits, then it is irrelevant to the world whether or not we can vote every 5 years. As Indians, it is very important for us if we have democratic rights, but unless we translate these democratic rights into actual economic and civilizational strength, we just become a meme of a naked sadhu saying that he is the freest man in the world.

Secondly, the western mainstream media needs to be BOUGHT, not impressed. We need to start funding various international media outlets behind the scenes to show the side of India that we want to be shown internationally. The Chinese and the Gulf countries have been doing this effectively. You don't hear about everyday killings of muslims in China or of workers dying in their factories due to poor safety conditions. But if you see the news about India, almost every single day, western MSM reports about rape, corruption, caste politics etc. This is not because they care so much about our people, rather, this is a propaganda campaign against Indian civilization itself. Brazil has FAR more crime, including rape and murder, than India. So do Mexico, Kenya, and many other developing countries. But these countries have not been targeted the way India has been targeted. The need of the hour is to infiltrate and manipulate these media houses to our advantage.
With the kind of diaspora that India has, putting across our point of view in western or any other media outlet should not be a problem at all. The issue is that we have failed to reign in the fifth column in India itself. Every piece of propaganda that BBC publishes invariably has a native informant in the byline. Our media establishment is so heavily infiltrated it is hilarious.
 
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With the kind of diaspora that India has, putting across our point of view in western or any other media outlet should not be a problem at all. The issue is that we have failed to reign in the fifth column in India itself. Every piece of propaganda that BBC publishes invariably has an native informant in the byline. Our media establishment is so heavily infiltrated it is hilarious.
Fifth column is there in our country, but it is there is most countries. My question is why is western MSM so disproportionately worried about India? If they want to report on rape, there is South Africa, Pakistan, Mexico, Brazil, even Sweden, where the rape rates are higher than ours. But they only report about India. If they want to report about mob violence, then Latin America and Africa take the cake from us. But they only report about India. If they want to report about suppression of democratic rights, then I can't even list how many countries there are that make us look like Denmark. But they only report about India. And not once a month or so, but EVERYDAY. Simply type India in the news search, and see the stories that come up. No other country gets as much bad press as India. They denigrate our society, our democracy, our military, our unity, our Religion (Hinduism). If a person has never been to India and only reads about it in the news, then he/she will be under the impression today that India is by far the worst country in the world.

There is a clear pattern of attacking India and Indians through the western media in the name of journalism. I don't know why this is happening, but it is. Indian diaspora cannot solve this problem, because if it is an Indian or Indian origin person defending India, then it looks like we are making excuses for ourselves to the world. The trick is to get THEM to say what we want them to say. And that is where "investment" comes in.
 

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With the kind of diaspora that India has, putting across our point of view in western or any other media outlet should not be a problem at all. The issue is that we have failed to reign in the fifth column in India itself. Every piece of propaganda that BBC publishes invariably has an native informant in the byline. Our media establishment is so heavily infiltrated it is hilarious.
There is however one category of Western MSM that gets the story right on India, which is their economic news meant for investors. Because investors need the hard facts, and not emotional non sense, outlets like forbes and bloomberg mostly give positive news about India.
 

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you expect a snake to hug you and say I love you? They are communist and India is democratic. Its a very basic fact.

The point is being democratic India has failed till now to be a good advertiser. India has failed to present democratic values. Who gave a damn about India a decade back? None!
Why because in India it's own people pull down the image of democratic values in India.
What I want is to break the teeth of the snake. I want entire nation to understand that china under CCP rule is our sworn enemy . And we need to prepare for ultimate battle.
 

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translate these democratic rights into actual economic and civilizational strength
Like Nandigram?

The whole image of WB is spoilt.
There are many such cases.

If you give something to one community or region the other would come on street.

And there is no way that you can give equally, why to give equally?

If there are 20 crore people living in UP then they demand higher power consumption that means more powerplants or grid infrastructure.

Why the similar infrastructure should be allotted to Manipur?

This is what Gujarat Model is you cannot keep every one happy and you need to provide and develop as per needs not as per equality!!
 

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In US, its not all of media that is negatively project India...Its a certain "media Mafia" which Trump calls "fake media" Its prominent members include New York Times, BBC, Economist, CNN etc. (the pseudo-liberal gang)
CNN is obsessed with Russia bashing and suffers from Putin phobia as some big financier for some unknown reason wants Russia to be demonized. 24 hours CNN keeps chanting bad things about Putin.
Patriotic leaders like Putin, Modi, Duteurte are scary to the pseudoliberal mafia.
On the other hand, an average American has generally positive image of India ...and many Americans see India as a mystical land of wisdom and spirituality, yoga and meditation .
Someone rightly said above..you don't have to impress western media ..you have to buy them.
 

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Dumbass libtard thinks india is a "low trust" society because of pre-paid mobile recharge and dual sim mobiles..
libtards create their own theories and repeat it a hundred times until it becomes the truth..

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Ravi Agrawal of CNN on India's Smartphone Revolution

 

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Dumbass libtard thinks india is a "low trust" society because of pre-paid mobile recharge and dual sim mobiles..
libtards create their own theories and repeat it a hundred times until it becomes the truth..

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Ravi Agrawal of CNN on India's Smartphone Revolution

All said and done, Mr Coconut should realize that in US, cellphone manufacturers and telecom companies collude with each other so that consumer is locked into buying from limited choices.

Unlocked phones there cost more than locked ones. That means paying extra just so that you can use your phone on different networks unlike India where you simply remove one sim card and put other or even better use dual sim cards.

Mr. Coconut should probably introspect about that rather than mouthing off about low-trust societies and what not.
 

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Not a think tank discussion , but gives a view of what american state department plans for India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Srilanka, Myanmar and Maldives.

Interestingly Pakistan is discussed very less..

 

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China-India Relations: The Untold Story

 

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Shoma Chaudhury is she the one close associate of tarun tejpal ??? tehelka.com ??
 

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he said some of fine things:

you deserve caste by deed not birth(i have also dropped by surname like him and connected here ,you are not Brahman by birth)

hindus allowed himself to be weakened so invaders invade them

emphasis on indian cultural history not thought in last 70 year

more emphasis on better integration with more southern and eastern industry

invader mostly came from north west not north eastern, its correct our history is unbalanced and thats why integration is clumsy because most of the historians are from british school of thought which only weakened indian history and it happened from last 70 years

still there are over 3000 un-translated sankrit text along with tamil and telgu text which needs to be integrated into current history
 
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A must-watch video with two soldier-scholars (Retd Air Vice Marshal Arjun Subramaniam + Retd Colonel John H Gill) titled "India's Wars":

 

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