Discussion in 'Internal Security' started by Kunal Biswas, Oct 23, 2016.
Questions for gun lovers-
1. OFBs were instructed to create AK like rifles "without replicating it's mechanism" - hence the Ghatak and Trichy (TAR) were developed. How different are their mechanisms from original AKs?
2. Which one is more accurate - Ghatak or Trichy?
3. Ghatak seems to be more reliable as it got selected (which means its design mechanism is better from reliability pov)...but TAR has better barrel design and hence better range (400 m against 300 for Ghatak)...can TAR barrels be used in Ghatak?
Ghatak is actually 1B1 in AK skin, Both have similar accuracy and earlier model of TAR had 400m range due to FAL influence which feature longer barrel, Not the recent one which is a direct AK clone ..
Ghatak iron sights are better, personally i feel better with leaf style iron sight so does troops who are trained on it.
•GHAATAK RIFLE UPDATE
We were in the attendance of the recently held International Police and Homeland Security Expo 2017, New Delhi. There, we interacted with the Ordnance Factory Board's representatives, and found that
1) The army has rejected the Ghaatak Rifle because it chambers 7.62×39 mm bullets whereas according to Army's new requirements, they're looking for rifles which can fire 7.62×51 mm bullets.
2) To meet the demands of the army, they have developed a new rifle but haven't named it yet (we will be posting the pictures of that rifle too) which is indeed a direct derivative of AK 103 with slight modifications.
3) The OFB is now looking for the potential buyers as some state police forces and central armed police forces have shown interest in Ghaatak.
4) A total of 400 Rifles have been issued.
•ABOUT GHAATAK RIFLE
Ghaatak Assault rifle, developed by Rifle Factory Ishapore, is a gas operated weapon with rotating bolt locking system.
It fires 7.62×39mm cartridge with a muzzle velocity of 670 m/s. Without magazine, the rifle weighs 3.4 kg and length is 896mm (fixed butt) 665mm (folded butt).
It can hold 30 rounds in its polycarbonate magazine which can be fired in a Single shot or in automatic mode with a firing rate of 600 rounds per minute.The effective firing range is 300m.
The foresight is pillar type and the rear sight is ‘U’ notched, Graduated and Ramp type (100-800).
It is provided with mechanical and applied safety. The 414mm barrel of the weapon is Chromium plated for longer life. A light weight modular handguard with detachable Picatinny rail on upside and down and slot rail sections in sides where more rails can be added as per need. Rifling 4 groves R.H. The rail
Pic © INDRA NETWORKS
How much ammo can a Jawan carry? - for 5.56, 7.62x39 and 7.62x51....
Horrible quality. Don't these people in OFB have any sense of aesthetics?
Its a dummy rifle, the same rifle which i took a year before posted in this very thread ..
Seriously Duhh...The army have no problem with inducting those Bulgarian,Polish,East German or Romanian Kalashnikovs but cannot accept an Indian variant of same gun ?
I hope next time when they would require to induct more 7.62 x 39 guns they would prefer this one over Foreign ones.
Lesson no 1"never give a gun to an auntyji no matter what she will hold it like a broom"
The guy in the ppicture is like "i have seen everything pleasetake me to hell"
All because they think they can get away with this...and have so far gotten away with this.
Full Auto mode at 5:35 of Insas 1KC
DRDO’s assault rifles to throw shield around Assam rhinos
It has already been put into service. It had started replacing the age old .303 and SLR. Even forests guards are equipped with INSAS 1B off late.
Dunno about Ghatak but yes, i've seen the 1B1 with AP and others.
Apparently CRPF has rejected Ghatak. I guess we can say good bye to Ghatak.
CRPF to conduct trials of “Made in India” rifles
February 22, 2018 foxbat
Soon after procuring 7000 Bulgaria-made AKM rifles, the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) has tested the advanced version of made in India ‘Ghatak’ guns recently in field trial in Kashmir Valley.
However, in a major boost to the “Made in India” brand of rifles, the force is all set to test three crucial varieties of assault weapons, including the Trichy Assault Rifle, and Joint Venture Protection Carbine and the latest variant of Insas I-C.
DG CRPF told India Today, “Yes we are currently in the process of testing new weapons. These are made in India weapons for which the field trials are on. We will be more than willing to procure the weapons if they are found suitable for the jawans.”
With 3 lakh personnel, CRPF is the largest paramilitary force, involved in conflict zones of Jammu and Kashmir, Maoists infested areas and Northeast India.
The force is looking at multiple options in a bid to phase out INSAS (Indian Small Arms System).
One of the first rifles to be tested for field performance has been the advanced version of Ghatak assault rifle. While its performance was noted satisfactory, but the CRPF top brass said that Ghatak did not have the same lethality of AK 47, which is a weapon of choice for close quarter combat.
With its 7.62 X 39 mm dimension, Ghatak’s advanced version was put forth as state-of-the-art assault rifle. However, field officers have given it a thumbs down.
“Its body part is made up of plastic and which looks tacky gives an unreal feel”, said an officer.
While the first munition has proven to a damp squib, the force is said to be more optimistic about the other soon to be tested weapons.
The Trichy Assault Rifle is similar to AK series. It has a side folding stock which makes it easy to carry.
Ordnance Factory of Tiruchi (OFT) has developed this new 7.62x39mm dimension assault rifle. It is touted to be an improved version of INSAS rifle.
The Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC) designed by the DRDO and produced by the OFB as a replacement for the 9mm carbine which has been phased out, is also said to undergo trial soon.
It has 5.56 mm calibre bullets with the magazine capacity of 30 cartridges.
JVPC is said to be more powerful than the 9mm carbine, which has a much shorter effective firing range than the 200 metres of the JVPC. It is capable of penetrating soft body armour made of kevlar.
The last is INSAS I-C a product of the rifle factory of Ishapur.
Sources say, it has overcome its previous issues of jamming and magazine cracking due to cold weather. It is an accurate lightweight rifle, compact, handy and suitable for terrestrial and maritime assignments.
chut*** writer if rifle dont have plastic made components if will be heavy now who needs realistic look idiot
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