Ganges Water & Farakka Dam

[bose]

Do a quick google search and try to find out the groups which are spreading disinformation, galvanizing negative public opinion and protesting against any attempts at river linking. Hint : Communists.

It does not matter what communist think... what is good for the country will be done... as simple as that...

 

[Navnit Kundu]

It does not matter what communist think... what is good for the country will be done... as simple as that...

The solution to the problem was as simple as ignoring it? Modi must be seriously lacking in intelligence for unnecessarily grappling with that issue for so long. Should've just ignored it and it would've disappeared magically. You should've told that trick to Modi when the Narmada project was in limbo for years due to opposition from these supposedly inconsequential communists. Modi would have appreciated your wisdom and deep strategic insight.

 

[bose]

The solution to the problem was as simple as ignoring it? Modi must be seriously lacking in intelligence for unnecessarily grappling with that issue for so long. Should've just ignored it and it would've disappeared magically. You should've told that trick to Modi when the Narmada project was in limbo for years due to opposition from these supposedly inconsequential communists. Modi would have appreciated your wisdom and deep strategic insight.

Modi must start the river linking project immediately from there it was left by Vajpayee government...

I will give some time to Modi [ another year or so] before be judgmental...

 

[Bahamut]

Instead of conventional turbine why donot we use Tesla turbine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine#Applications

 

[Bornubus]

Agreed. The nature of that advantage is not clear but what's clear is that they receive immense benefit from our dams, and they should be made to share the construction and maintenance costs.



BD has made all the efforts that any sane government could make to help India. It is Manmohan Sinhg's lack of initiative which scuttled the momentum. I think the utility of free passage through BD has very limited military advantage. Even if BD government gave us a signed paper assuring us the right of passage, tomorrow if we need to use the road to transport soldiers to troubled areas in NE or Myanmar or LAC, then it wont be the legal document which would be the bottleneck/force multiplier. Our enemy, (whoever we are fighting at that time), will always find ways to sneak saboteurs into Bangladesh and the only way to continue using the road would be through use of force, BD's legal and moral position notwithstanding. The legal agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on since BD doesn't have the military might to enforce it in case it is challenged by another power. We will have to enforce it ourselves.

The best way to overcome this is to base our strategic assets like ammo manufacturing units, ammo dumps, missile defense systems and other things to be built in NE itself, so we don't have to rely on transporting those things in the first place. That's the shortest path to resupplying our troops. Once that is done, the only variable that remains floating is the troops. We can add or remove troops based on the required force structure and it can be done without reliance on hostile terrain to transport.

Sign some sort of weapons/ammo deal with Myanamar to sell ammo to them, so that our factories and assembly lines stationed in NE remain active and profitable. When war breaks out, we can use these factories to supply our army.



Do a quick google search and try to find out the groups which are spreading disinformation, galvanizing negative public opinion and protesting against any attempts at river linking. Hint : Communists.

If we see the map of India,NE is the most underdeveloped region in the country along with isolated areas in Jharkhand and Chattishgarh.

IMO the most imp reason for it the lack of connectivity,i don't know what would happen if Chinese able to choke chicken Neck thus annexing entire North East.

The last phase of UPA 2 and Modi Govt are both aware of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Frontier_Railway_zone

 

[Bornubus]

People in this sub-region - Bangladeshis, Indian W Bengalis and those of NE shall all get together one day - and soon, to dismantle these dams to free the rivers and ensure ecological balance. Unless meanwhile earthquakes and major floods wash them off.

Pathetic Attempt to associate with Indians.

NE Indians and west Bengalis have nothing in common with a Bangladeshi both Racially and Culturally.You have more in common with Pakis atleast on historic Basis.

 

[Navnit Kundu]

Modi must start the river linking project immediately from there it was left by Vajpayee government...

I will give some time to Modi [ another year or so] before be judgmental...

People with vested interests have already started the disinformation campaign in full swing :

http://qz.com/504127/why-indias-168-billion-river-linking-project-is-a-disaster-in-waiting/

Please excuse me if I am unsurprised to see a particular community's disproportionate representation and contribution to communism and the consequent single handed agenda of destruction of anything and everything which furthers Indian interests. Every. Single. Time.

If we see the map of India,NE is the most underdeveloped region in the country along with isolated areas in Jharkhand and Chattishgarh.

IMO the most imp reason for it the lack of connectivity,i don't know what would happen if Chinese able to choke chicken Neck thus annexing entire North East.

We are both basing our game plan on the same assumption of forfeiture of Chicken's Neck. The ability to have an unbroken supply line is sacrosanct in fighting and winning a war and investing in transport channels which pass through this precarious area to be the exclusive means of transportation can spell doom. If we have manufacturing units in NE itself, it can more than hold out on its own until support can be sent from the mainland or pressure could be relieved by opening another front elsewhere. This makes the chicken's Neck redundant by reducing our dependence on it and therefore makes it less likely to come under enemy attack.

If war-material is locally manufactured in the NE then we can find a zillion ways to distribute it to the front lines. But simply building a transport network and relying on the mainland to supply troops in NE will jeopardize the entire area. We need to develop NE as an independent theater with a locally sourced and autonomous supply chain. We must further build infrastructure between Myanmar and NE and sign some joint manufacturing contract with Myanmar to keep our troops supplied. It is easier to supply material to NE from Myanmar than from Indian mainland. We could further supply material to NE, via Myanmar through ships sent from Kolkata port. The availability of multiple supply lines will build in redundancy in our supply chain and make the Chicken's Neck a less lucrative target for our enemies.

 

[bose]

Pathetic Attempt to associate with Indians.

NE Indians and west Bengalis have nothing in common with a Bangladeshi both Racially and Culturally.You have more in common with Pakis atleast on historic Basis.

Bit Off topic:

Nowadays Indian Bengalis are facing the Bangladeshis anger ... Is not that we Indian Bengalis care about what they feel... I have seen some TV talk shows where they were showing anger and some called us worst among all Indians...

These Bangladeshis support Pakistani whenever they were a cricket match between Indian and Pakistan in Decca, Bangladesh... this was the case for some sometime years now...

Recently in the WC T20 match in Kolkata the Bangladeshis vs Pakistan the spectators at Eden Garden did not support them instead cheering Pakistanis to be little Bangladesh... that has not gone down well with them... They thought Indian Bengalis will support them... The indifferent Indians have turned against these Bangladeshis who knows how to take but not to give back...

 

[bose]

@Navnit Kundu You are right there are many from the community as an activists, reformers, revolutionists, etc etc... For once I would suggest all to forget their ethnicity and oppose their thinking with logic...

I see more of these type of people outside Bengal rather here ...

 

[Dark Soul]

all we need to do is divert both Indus and Ganga/Yamuna to Rajasthan and Gujarat.

 

[Navnit Kundu]

@Navnit Kundu For once I would suggest all to forget their ethnicity and oppose their thinking with logic...

Thanks for the wisdom, I bet that is exactly what you were doing here :

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...kistan-army-torture.76088/page-2#post-1152446

 

[bose]

Thanks for the wisdom, I bet that is exactly what you were doing here :

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/baloch-activist-naela-qadris-tale-of-pakistan-army-torture.76088/page-2#post-1152446

I always have different standard for my countrymen... moreover the post you have quoted is a opinion...

 

[abingdonboy]

1.We are the lower Brahmaputra-Gangetic delta. Not the right location for building dams. In any case, dams are now discouraged by environmentalists. We have only one hydel dam over R Karnafuli built by the Americans in the 60's. It is hardly of any use these days.

2. The issue here is the unilateral and unlawful as well as unethical withdrawal of waters from ALL our rivers upstream by India.

Typical mentaility of these tiny S.Asian states- blame everything on India, have no personal responsibilty.

 

[Illusive]

Why is there not even a 10th of this outrage shown when China is diverting Brahmaputra by these Bangladeshis.

 

[rockey 71]

The Chinese have convin

Why is there not even a 10th of this outrage shown when China is diverting Brahmaputra by these Bangladeshis.

The Chinese have convinced us beyond doubt that their project will not have any adverse impact on rivers that flow into us. In contrast a BD parliamentary team invited by India to visit the Teesta dam site returned without being shown this. Indian hosts claimed the helicopter carrying the team could not land due bad weather. None in BD - including team members, was convinced with this explanation.

 

[Bornubus]

@Navnit Kundu You are right there are many from the community as an activists, reformers, revolutionists, etc etc... For once I would suggest all to forget their ethnicity and oppose their thinking with logic...

I see more of these type of people outside Bengal rather here ...

Why do Indian Bengalis go for a Paki BD match considering they both are our sworn enemy no 1 and can't co exist ?

I've seen Bangladeshi Hindus (8- 10% ~ BD population) cheered for India in Asia cup but nobody cares here they are BD for us be it Rohingya or a Hindu.

 

[bose]

Why do Indian Bengalis go for a Paki BD match considering they both are our sworn enemy no 1 and can't co exist ?

I do not know ... probably to watch a cricket match and frustrate the BD people who thought they will get local support ...

I've seen Bangladeshi Hindus (8- 10% ~ BD population) cheered for India in Asia cup but nobody cares here they are BD for us be it Rohingya or a Hindu.

There are 20 million Hindus in Bangladesh ... they are our brothers, we can not abandon them ... They are an asset for India...

 

[Bornubus]

I do not know ... probably to watch a cricket match and frustrate the BD people who thought they will get local support ...



There are 20 million Hindus in Bangladesh ... they are our brothers, we can not abandon them ... They are an asset for India...

Next BD will say West Bangali Muslalman are asset for them.

 

[bose]

Next BD will say West Bangali Muslalman are asset for them.

Pakistanis & BD were saying such for long time... They are using them for all sort of illegal and terrorist activities... It is time to turn the tables ... We have abandon the Hindus in Pakistan ...

In 1971 Indira Gandhi should have curved out some districts specially Rajshahi & Chhattogram Hill tracts for Hindus rather than going in and losing 10,000 men for thankless people ...

 

[Bornubus]

Pakistanis & BD were saying such for long time... They are using them for all sort of illegal and terrorist activities... It is time to turn the tables ... We have abandon the Hindus in Pakistan ...

In 1971 Indira Gandhi should have curved out some districts specially Rajshahi & Chhattogram Hill tracts for Hindus rather than going in and losing 10,000 men for thankless people ...

There are very low Hindu % in Pak population but in BD there population is significant around 10% along with non musalman tribals like chakma.

In Ukraine Russia is doing the same in Donbass we can try it with Hindu dominated areas and ultimately annex it by arming the Hindus.