Gagan Shakti 2018: The IAF Will Field 1,100 Aircraft For Mega War Exerc

[indus]

Any speecific reason to not have full fledged air bases in Arunachal Pradesh but only ALGs.

If they want any new domestic airport they should club a sqadron with HAS.

So as to not to antagonise China, as they are close to Tibet border. Even road networks were not developed in NE so as that Chinese dont find an easy way down the Himalayas.

 

[Tanmay]

So as to not to antagonise China, as they are close to Tibet border. Even road networks were not developed in NE so as that Chinese dont find an easy way down the Himalayas.

By that logic Chinese have built nice highways and railways to allow India to easily pass thru Tibet right upto Chengdu

 

[Mikesingh]

Why hadn't we developed infrastructure in the North East? Because the National Security Advisers over the years warned that this could be used by the Chinese in the event of war!! Lol!

 

[aghamarshana]

Why hadn't we developed infrastructure in the North East? Because the National Security Advisers over the years warned that this could be used by the Chinese in the event of war!! Lol!

We are still in Defensive mindset

 

[Tanmay]

Eagerly waiting to see if they tested Akash, Spyder and MRSAM in actual networked environment at some airbase instead of prepped sites at DRDO facilities.

 

[indus]

The excercise simulates an offensive. I dont think they will simulate defensive elements in the same excercise.

 

[Kshithij]

Hawk-I isn’t Combat Hawk, Hawk I is HAL’s MLU of EXISTING Hawk Mk.132s, they have added some new avionics and updated the cockpit. Combat Hawk was to be a NEW BUILD modified version of the Hawk with an enhanced engine and weapons/sensor capability.

Advanced Hawk is something different still. It is a new build enchanced TRAINER that can simulate 5th gen fighter cockpits and systems.


Hawk-I is the only one of these that is a reality, the number of Hawks has not increased, IAF only want it for trainer roles.


That Heron had nothing to do with this EX, it was undertaking regular surveillance ops.

Hawks are not air superiority fighters but are for CAS roles. They can be armed with Helina/SANT missiles and even loaded with cannons and cluster bombs for CAS roles.

The Hawk-i is meant to be made in India fully with the indigenous engine HTFE25. Till now, the plane was made in India but engine was imported from UK. But, going forward, Hawk-i will be fully Indian. Modern warfare is almost completely dependent on aerial ability and the number of aircrafts required will be huge. Hawk is a relatively simple plane with simple parts and avionics and hence easier to assemble, it will always be attractive to mass manufacture hawks for war in thousands just like cars are made (India makes over 12000 cars a day, FYI)

Apart from the mere approval for the Pan India exercise its also the cost factors i am sure this exercise alone would have costed the exchequer 1000s of crores if not in 100s i mean the operational expense ..I May be wrong tooo with the numbers ..Which also brings to my mind another question..When a time the govt said it don t have much money for defence modernisation why did they given approval for such large scale exercise ..if 100 crores is there they could have equipped another 30000 soldiers with the lastest BPJ they had ordered ...

Even BPJ is a short term investment. The BPJ gets worn out in 2 years under regular wear and tear. The gagan-shakti is not just a show but assessment of tactics and weapons. India has got several new weapons like Garuda, Garuthmaa bombs, Brahmos missiles, SAAW, cluster munitions, thermobaric bombs and new electronics like LGB, EW and newer planes like Tejas. These kind of exercises is to know how to coordinate the various types of planes, to get feedback on the abilities and effects of various planes and munitions on the tactics and so on.

These kind of tactics have to be done regularly, may be once a year so as to fine tune the tactics and achieve perfect coordination amongst all the pilots, logistical departments and to find the best possible combinations of tactics across various terrains and scenarios. All this must be noted down and an extensive debate must be held for the same

 

[Anikastha]

Can we use our IAF C-130 Hercules as spooky gunship ?
As show in Transformer movie.

 

[Tanmay]

Can we use our IAF C-130 Hercules as spooky gunship ?
As show in Transformer movie.

Thats an actually existing heavily modified C-130 called AC-130 in USAF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130

And we cant use it without as such without ripping the fuselage.

 

[Anikastha]

Thats an actually existing heavily modified C-130 called AC-130 in USAF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130

And we cant use it without as such without ripping the fuselage.

So it means , to modify our C-130 we must get permission from Uncle Sam.

 

[Tanmay]

So it means , to modify our C-130 we must get permission from Uncle Sam.

Not worth risking such a big aircraft and crew when the same can be achieved with UAVs having SANT/Hellfire or whatever wee are developing.

 

[ezsasa]

Can we use our IAF C-130 Hercules as spooky gunship ?
As show in Transformer movie.

Even if americans sell us AC-130 gunship, we don't a doctrine to support it's use.
It's useful only in places like Afghanistan.

 

[Kshithij]

Can we use our IAF C-130 Hercules as spooky gunship ?
As show in Transformer movie.

The C130 is not a tank with massive armour. It is also very slow. Even primitive WW2 era anti aircraft guns can take them down easily.

It is better to have smaller planes like hawk or SARAS to do such jobs and use C130J as transportation plane only. The C130J has payload of just 20tons. Even Su30 has payload of 10tons and combined with superior speed and maneuverability, Su30 is far better option than C130J.

 

[Mikesingh]

The C130 is not a tank with massive armour. It is also very slow. Even primitive WW2 era anti aircraft guns can take them down easily.

It is better to have smaller planes like hawk or SARAS to do such jobs and use C130J as transportation plane only. The C130J has payload of just 20tons. Even Su30 has payload of 10tons and combined with superior speed and maneuverability, Su30 is far better option than C130J.

We used the AN-12 transport aircraft as Heavy bombers during the 71 War!

But it's an exception more than a rule!

 

[kamaal]

We are still in Defensive mindset

We only have two strategy against China in NE region, its either defensive or suicidal i.e. Attack. Our forces is not capable enough to carry massive attack on that front, terrain being the major reason.

Similarly PLA also have two ways to fight war in NE region, 1). Defensive or 2). Suicidal. They know inside Indian territory they'll not be able to survive more than few hours, as IAF & IA are capable enough to cut their supply lines and will trap their troop near narrow corridor.

Thats why PLA & IA very well know their limitation in NE region. No massive war is happening in that area.

 

[Mikesingh]

Preparation to blow up three gorges

You'll need a nuke of nominal yield to blow up the Three Gorges dam! However, you can capture the control room and open all the sluice gates creating massive floods and landslides downstream. It won't achieve any military objectives though. And it may cause flooding in the Brahmaputra too! So...Bad idea!

This is the scene if the sluice gates are opened...

 

[Mikesingh]

IAF, Army undertakes mass air evacuation drill, high hill troop transfer in East, North-Eastern sector

The IVTT was conducted in the high hills of Northern and North-Eastern Sector

In the ongoing Gagan Shakti 2018 exercise, the Indian Air Force along with the Indian Army undertook an Inter Valley Troop Transfer (IVTT) and a mass casualty air evacuation drill.

The IVTT was conducted in the high hills of Northern and North-Eastern Sector, while the air evacuation drill was carried out in Kolkata on April 19.

The aim of the (IVTT) exercise was to validate the capability of the Indian Air Force and the Indian Army to quickly transfer and redeploy acclimatized troops, in the simulated objective area. These operations are conducted to reposition troops from one valley to another, to counter any evolving threat and to surprise or offensively exploit the weakness of the adversary,” said the Defence Ministry in a release.

“In the mountainous terrain the movement of the troops from one valley to another is a challenging task. The redeployment of forces from one area of interest to another may at times take couple of days. IVTT operations help to reposition the desired forces within a couple of hours,” it added.

C-130 and AN-32 tactical transport aircraft and Mi-17 V5 / ALH helicopters were used for the missions. “Owing to their versatile maneuvering capabilities, these platforms are most adaptable in an extremely demanding high altitude terrain.”



http://zeenews.india.com/india/gaga...fer-in-east-north-eastern-sector-2101880.html

 

[mayfair]

^^ Why are they wearing the older camouflage pattern? I thought IA no longer used this.

 

[Anikastha]

^^ Why are they wearing the older camouflage pattern? I thought IA no longer used this.

Dude with medic sign is Airforce. Check his arm patch above "RED CROSS" sign.

 

[smestarz]

UPA and earlier govts did not give shit about NE.
Also if Chinese would have taken over some areas of NE. then GoI would have termed it unfortunate and tried to discuss with China for returning it back.
UPA tries to appease everyone except their own, its like the song, dusro pe karam apno pe sitam
If we build anything near the border, the Chinese term it as act of aggression, and if they build anything close to the border, its for development of the area. the problem is that UPA tried to play the game and they had no clue or not bothered to know about it, any loss is ok,
On other hand, BJP govt is going on much better to develop infrastructure and connect NE to rest of India as it should have been done several decades ago, Congress policy was based on MPs they can get and NE did not have many MPs and also its easy to manipulate there as most are chrisitaisn and hence were pro congress.

By that logic Chinese have built nice highways and railways to allow India to easily pass thru Tibet right upto Chengdu