India US Relations

[Hindustani78]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...ners-pompeo/article23989989.ece?homepage=true

“For scores of reasons ... Specific issues — South Central Asia issues, Southeast Asia issues,” he says.
India needs to be central to what the Trump administration does in South and Central Asia, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told lawmakers on Friday, asserting that India “ought to be” one of America’s closest partners.

“For scores of reasons, India needs to be central to what we do. Specific issues — South Central Asia issues, Southeast Asia issues. They ought to be one of our closest partners and we ought to do everything we can to make sure that we achieve that,” he told the members of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Cementing bilateral ties
Mr. Pompeo, who was till recently the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, was responding to questions from Senator Chris Coons from Delaware about how to further strengthen the US-India relationship.

“Mr. Secretary, if you would like to say anything about how we can work with this most populous democracy, a potential strategic partner to strengthen that relationship, I’ll make that my last question,” Mr. Coons asked.

He said sustaining a strategic dialogue with India was something that “would enjoy strong support here.”

Mr. Pompeo responded that, “Defense Secretary [James] Mattis and I will jointly meet with our Indian counterparts in a dialogue that the two countries have had. I don’t know that the date’s been set but we’re looking to do it. I think it’s set this summer, very important.”

Mr. Pompeo and Mr. Mattis are expected to host their Indian counterparts — External affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman — some time this summer for the inaugural 2+2 dialogue.

The decision about this was taken when Prime Minister Narendra Modi was hosted by President Donald Trump at the White House on June 26 last year.

Bipartisan backing to bilateral ties
The US-India relationship enjoys bipartisan support in the US Congress.

Early this week, a top US State Department official said the Trump administration supports India’s emergence as a leading global power and as a key partner in the Indo-Pacific region.

“The US-India partnership is rooted in shared democratic values and a commitment to a rules-based order. We support India’s emergence as a leading global power and as a key partner in our efforts to ensure that the Indo-Pacific is a region of peace, stability and growing prosperity,” State Department Spokesperson Heather Nauert had said.

 

[WolfPack86]

US may block Predator drone sale to India.

 

[WolfPack86]

US most untrust worthy partner and arrogant country.

 

[WolfPack86]

India should stop buying defence equipment from America.

 

[WolfPack86]

US MAY BLOCK SALE OF PREDATOR DRONES AS INDIA IS BUYING ARMS FROM RUSSIA
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2018/05/us-may-block-sale-of-predator-drones-as.html

 

[WolfPack86]

Next US would block Apache attack helicopter and Chinook helicopter sale to India.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Next US would block Apache attack helicopter and Chinook helicopter sale to India.

They can do that, it is not India which is asking for american jets.

It is the US which is giving India the offers.

 

[WolfPack86]

This Tiger attack helicopter is an option if US block Apache helicopter to India.

 

[WolfPack86]

US House Armed Services committee members link transfer of high-end technology for the Indian fighter aircraft production plan to the Russian S-400 purchase.

 

[WolfPack86]

Acquisition of Russian S-400 by India will curb military cooperation: US. Air defence system will inhibit ability of militaries to operate together, says US House Armed Services Committee.

 

[ezsasa]

Acquisition of Russian S-400 by India will curb military cooperation: US. Air defence system will inhibit ability of militaries to operate together, says US House Armed Services Committee.

This is just fear mongering from the usual suspect manu pubby.

It’s important to look at from where such statements are coming from. Statements from oversight senate committees are mostly noise. If one goes thru the committee hearing proceedings video, highly likely the comments came from senators of east/west coasts(democrat strongholds).

So far pentagon and White House are on good terms with us. They can always overrule what senate committee have to say.

This impasse if any, can simply go away for as little as lowering tariffs on Harley Davidson bikes.

These journos have kept us in dark for long, by reporting half truths. As I keep saying America is not a single entity just like us, It’s important to know what statements are coming and from where.

 

[Haldiram]

This is just fear mongering from the usual suspect manu pubby.

It’s important to look at from where such statements are coming from. Statements from oversight senate committees are mostly noise. If one goes thru the committee hearing proceedings video, highly likely the comments came from senators of east/west coasts(democrat strongholds).

So far pentagon and White House are on good terms with us. They can always overrule what senate committee have to say.

This impasse if any, can simply go away for as little as lowering tariffs on Harley Davidson bikes.

These journos have kept us in dark for long, by reporting half truths. As I keep saying America is not a single entity just like us, It’s important to know what statements are coming and from where.

The US speaks in one voice when it comes to their interests. These 'side voices' are also propped up by their establishment to be used as a premise for a U-turn when it is beneficial for them. When they wanted to invade Iraq, they used the testimony of a paid girl who simply lied about babies dying in Saddam's hospital, which they used as a pretext to invade Iraq. In hindsight, the famous case is known as Nayirah testimony and is popularly known to be a false flag information warfare hitjob : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The anti-India voices are the cards they have cultivated so that when negotiations go south, they can use any one of the many excuses to sanction India under a moral excuse (human rights, minority rights, trade with Russia etc), to mask the real geopolitical issue.

How is the US on good terms with us? they have done every single thing an enemy nation does to its arch rival and still want India to humor them.

 

[jackprince]

Always stood by the notion that USA is one false bastard never to be trusted by anyone with a self-esteem. Now, I wanna see those USAphiles in this forum, some of whom had almost bought the F35 if only finances have provided.

Btw, the coincidence of Vedanata protest and India's deal with Russia for S-400 is surprising.

 

[kalakaar]

These statements are coming exactly after Modi visited China and later Russia and soon there is a BRICS summit. India is clear, they can go on doing business with Iran.

 

[ezsasa]

The US speaks in one voice when it comes to their interests. These 'side voices' are also propped up by their establishment to be used as a premise for a U-turn when it is beneficial for them. When they wanted to invade Iraq, they used the testimony of a paid girl who simply lied about babies dying in Saddam's hospital, which they used as a pretext to invade Iraq. In hindsight, the famous case is known as Nayirah testimony and is popularly known to be a false flag information warfare hitjob : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The anti-India voices are the cards they have cultivated so that when negotiations go south, they can use any one of the many excuses to sanction India under a moral excuse (human rights, minority rights, trade with Russia etc), to mask the real geopolitical issue.

How is the US on good terms with us? they have done every single thing an enemy nation does to its arch rival and still want India to humor them.

True!!! these could be negotiating tactics...

These situations are precisely why budget of foreign ministry has been increased to 10000 crores, there is no point in assuming the worst when the play is still going on. there will be back and forth, that is how international diplomacy works.

i have a feeling both iran issue and S-400 issue will work in our favour.

edit: correction foreign ministry budget is now 15000 crores....

 

[Haldiram]

True!!! these could be negotiating tactics...

These situations are precisely why budget of foreign ministry has been increased to 10000 crores, there is no point in assuming the worst when the play is still going on. there will be back and forth, that is how international diplomacy works.

i have a feeling both iran issue and S-400 issue will work in our favour.

edit: correction foreign ministry budget is now 15000 crores....

It is a deal breaker for India. We will not buy THAAD, we will not be able to develop our own in a short time, we cannot do without air cover for another decades, so we have to get the S400. Same with oil. Whatever be the nuances of the negotiation process, if these 2 issues are not conceded, what does India even get from this alliance? And now F18's have been selected for the multirole competition. We are conceding our ground while not being able to get reciprocal benefits from them. They have imposed sanctions on our Pharma companies in the name of generics (IP). They have broken agreements in the past for which we had to drag them to the WTO. There can be no agreement among countries where the power differential is so large. We don't have the means to enforce any clause on them if they refuse to abide by any agreement. Any agreement we make will only serve their interests.

India should not get into any bilateral agreement with them. Keep any overtones of a 'relationship' at bay. Keep it strictly transactional if we have to keep our strategic autonomy. USA is the Walmart of weapons. We may need to buy stuff from them from time to time. That doesn't mean we should alter our policy for them. Are they altering their policy to allow India to buy S400? or Iran oil? We are already paying them the asking price for the weapons. All these logistics sharing agreements will only benefit the US empire in the long run. We don't ask the US to vacate Diego Garcia but we want to poke our noses in South China Sea. We are going too far into the US sphere of influence, while their anti-India activities remain unabated (conversions, foreign aid to Pakistan, 'intolerance' propaganda war etc).

 

[AnantS]

boohoohoooo... Minorities are feeling threatened by Hindus in India... boohooohooooooo

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...asingly-vulnerable-in-2017-us-report-5196193/

Religious minority communities in India felt increasingly vulnerable in 2017: US report

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Trumpet is doing what conservatives Republicans and Liberal Democrats have been doing wrt India for many decades now. Feel sorry for Indians who orgasm over American presidential elections and even more sorry for F-18, JSF online Indian salesman/cheerleaders on this very forum.

So Bloomberg and associated newsportals like The Diplomat have been already peddling India so kommunal propaganda videos.

Known Jihadi/Commie supporting journalists are suddenly so scared that instead of nearest police station they had to go to UN and UN miraculously paid heed to two bit reporters... Who the fuck are they?? They ignored actual recent murders of Journalists but then they were communal journalists

CATSA specially has been designed to make large markets India to spurn Russian hardware in favor of americans through coercion.

Church network has been activated more strongly to thwart any economic activity or development which did not benefit Americans.


If CATSA comes online.. will C-17, C-130 & P-8 become hangar queens? What happens to NISAR satellite where so much money from India side has been spent!!!

 

[indus]

The tone seems abit threatening to me.

 

[Kalki_2018]

India has already made the choice. US and India are never allies, neutral at best.

 

[Immanuel]

This is all noise that happens in open democracy, S-400 and any other deal will get waivers and same goes for deals done with US, besides so far TOT hasn't been any issue while dealing with the US. We haven't recived any and under the current deals we just switch out key items such as datalinks, coms, IFFs anyways. People seem to confuse due process & procedure to conclusions. Indian lobby is strong and so is the trade lobby that wants to do business with India. Neither Dems or GOP are mad enough to have massive ongoing contracts or upcoming ones into jeopardy by not granting waivers. There are several layers of a relationship between any country including India & US and our relation is strong at the bottom where the IN/USN, IAF/USAF, IA/US Army share deep linkages. This is where it matters most, today we have a better relation with the US than we ever had. Sure, the politics at the top seems like it isn't the case but smooth politics is for a Banana Republic where nothing ever really happens. Keep in mind it is often far more diffcult to deal with friends than it is deal with enemies. Key is to talk it out and have many channels hammering consistent points that can be addressed.

The best counter for this is to have our own 'discussions' in parliament where 'some voices' call for complete or temporary halt of purchases of US weapons etc. Doesn't mean it will happen but a democracy gets to play 'pretty bitch' in such occasions.