Fueled by immigration, Hinduism becomes fourth-largest faith in US

[Rowdy]

Please provide quotes of these people which are not based on bhagavat gita and which propagate the sameness myth. Universalism in religion is not an alien concept to Hindus beliefs. Haven't you read about the fight for supremacy between devas and asuras and even between indra and other devas... Even they had to give some hierarchy to themselves and create a united front.Yet the scriptures say brahman is the absolute reality inspite of having thousands of manifestations.

These quotes are valid for Hinduism only. The exact quote is that there are many paths to god. These paths are the same. e.g. bhakti yoga & karma yoga.
A logical extension maybe made in buddhism & sikhism.
Abrahimics are political ideologies.

 

[VivekShah]

Please provide quotes of these people which are not based on bhagavat gita and which propagate the sameness myth. Universalism in religion is not an alien concept to Hindus beliefs. Haven't you read about the fight for supremacy between devas and asuras and even between indra and other devas... Even they had to give some hierarchy to themselves and create a united front.Yet the scriptures say brahman is the absolute reality inspite of having thousands of manifestations.

"Sarva dharma sambhav" was completely made up by Gandhi. Paramanhsa Yogananda called Jesus an avatar without even knowing how dangerous this is to the Hindu cause. For example avatars are without beginning or end, animals could be avatars, there are no superior avatars, etc. Now the Vedas claim that the truth is one, not all truth-claims. Big difference and expounded by Sri Rajiv Malhotra in his book "Being Different". For example the three Abrahamic religions have different truth claims and hence are not compatible with each other. Now you say Brahman is absolute reality having thousands of manifestations, try telling that to a Christian or Muslim and you would be committing blasphemy. Christian god manifested ONLY once and Allah does not manifest, to believe otherwise is shirk. Know a bit about the other religions before passing judgement.

 

[Rashna]

Who are these sects?

Not all sects believe in the concept of Brahman.

 

[VivekShah]

These quotes are valid for Hinduism only. The exact quote is that there are many paths to god. These paths are the same. e.g. bhakti yoga & karma yoga.
A logical extension maybe made in buddhism & sikhism.
Abrahimics are political ideologies.

Exactly it said there are several paths to the TRUTH, not that all truth-claims are valid. This video might help:

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Who are these sects?

Charvaka
Samkhya

 

[Rashna]

That is what I said. Sameness is a very important element of the gita. If one gives up on that then there is no hinduism and no belief. Everything will crumble and fall apart.

These quotes are valid for Hinduism only. The exact quote is that there are many paths to god. These paths are the same. e.g. bhakti yoga & karma yoga.
A logical extension maybe made in buddhism & sikhism.
Abrahimics are political ideologies.

 

[VivekShah]

That is how people who do not have facts to back up their story react. Go and hide somewhere because here are the numbers for US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jewish_population_comparisons

Jewish population went down steadily from 3% in 1942 to 2.63% in 1970 to 1.71% in 2010. Now go to sleep before I further expose your useless rants.

Usless statistics, can be explained by higher TFR of other groups and immigration. Fact is Jews have one of the highest rates of endogamy even after living in the Christian west for so long. Look up Tay-Sachs disease.

 

[VivekShah]

Charvaka
Samkhya

Charvaka was not astika, was materialistic atheist, would not be considered "hindu" right now. Samkhya philosophy is dead and its definition of Purusha resembles the Brahman of the Vedantins.

 

[VivekShah]

That is what I said. Sameness is a very important element of the gita. If one gives up on that then there is no hinduism and no belief. Everything will crumble and fall apart.

Wow...just wow. Seems like Ram Mohan Roy and the Unitarians succeeded quite well

 

[Rashna]

Charvaka was an atheist and founder of atheism but if you look at the philosophical tree of hinduism atheism is also an acceptable religion.How many active followers of Charvaka exist and do they call themselves Hindus or not?

Charvaka
Samkhya

 

[Rowdy]

That is what I said. Sameness is a very important element of the gita. If one gives up on that then there is no hinduism and no belief. Everything will crumble and fall apart.

Disagree

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Usless statistics, can be explained by higher TFR of other groups and immigration. Fact is Jews have one of the highest rates of endogamy even after living in the Christian west for so long. Look up Tay-Sachs disease.

Dude, you said look up the stats and I posted the raw stats. Now you are hiding behind another shell once your initial claim is refuted. Either put up your own stats or take your half baked theories somewhere else.

 

[VivekShah]

Disagree

Actually people like Bobby Jindal took @Rashna 's advice to heart and voila no Hinduism. Ditto for WB and Kerala.

 

[Rowdy]

Charvaka was an atheist and founder of atheism but if you look at the philosophical tree of hinduism atheism is also an acceptable religion.How many active followers of Charvaka exist android do they call themselves Hindus or not?

Yes .... but only in the classical sense.
They are non hindus only in Judeo-Christian-Islamic worldview of Non-beliver=Non-follower.

 

[Rowdy]

Actually people like Bobby Jindal took @Rashna 's advice to heart and voila no Hinduism. Ditto for WB and Kerala.

Yes .. no understanding of Hinduism...half truths and Gandhigiri. yuck!

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Charvaka was not astika, was materialistic atheist, would not be considered "hindu" right now. Samkhya philosophy is dead and its definition of Purusha resembles the Brahman of the Vedantins.

Samkhya is atheist to the core and does not put Vedas on high pedestal.

 

[Rashna]

What I am saying is simple. You have a known formula and it can be applied even for changing values.That's what they attempted to do with modern day religions. This was interpreted by them but the base is from hinduism.

"Sarva dharma sambhav" was completely made up by Gandhi. Paramanhsa Yogananda called Jesus an avatar without even knowing how dangerous this is to the Hindu cause. For example avatars are without beginning or end, animals could be avatars, there are no superior avatars, etc. Now the Vedas claim that the truth is one, not all truth-claims. Big difference and expounded by Sri Rajiv Malhotra in his book "Being Different". For example the three Abrahamic religions have different truth claims and hence are not compatible with each other. Now you say Brahman is absolute reality having thousands of manifestations, try telling that to a Christian or Muslim and you would be committing blasphemy. Christian god manifested ONLY once and Allah does not manifest, to believe otherwise is shirk. Know a bit about the other religions before passing judgement.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Charvaka was an atheist and founder of atheism but if you look at the philosophical tree of hinduism atheism is also an acceptable religion.How many active followers of Charvaka exist and do they call themselves Hindus or not?

Many. Although they might not know that themselves!!

 

[VivekShah]

Dude, you said look up the stats and I posted the raw stats. Now you are hiding behind another shell once your initial claim is refuted. Either put up your own stats or take your half baked theories somewhere else.

I just explained the stats to you, and as a matter of fact Jewish identity is very strong in atheistic Jews. Look at this:

These projections are based on estimates of people who self-identify as Jewish when asked about their religion on national censuses and large-scale surveys. They do not include so-called “cultural” or “ethnic” Jews – people who have direct Jewish ancestry and who consider themselves at least partially Jewish but who describe themselves, religiously, as atheist, agnostic or nothing in particular.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/jews/

So your stats you pulled up does not include cultural Jews:

http://www.jta.org/2002/09/25/archive/jewish-population-undercounted-new-study-launches-a-new-debate

 

[Rashna]

I don't give any advice. What hinduism are you fighting for. Your version of it may not exist on jambudweep.

Actually people like Bobby Jindal took @Rashna 's advice to heart and voila no Hinduism. Ditto for WB and Kerala.