From freedom fighters to terrorists: US attitude shift

[pmaitra]

@W.G.Ewald,

InfoWars has been discredited for creating Conspiracy Theories. I do not trust them, but then, my trust for the CIA/State-Department/FBI narrative isn't a whole lot either.

There are too many question that have not been answered.

• Why did FBI close the investigation, after FSA informed them about Tamerlan the first time?
• Why did the CIA, after FSB informed them about Tamerlan for the second time, not follow through?
• Who funded the two brothers?
• Who paid for Tamerlan's trip to Russia, given that he was on benefits?
• Why are Dzhokhar's scholarship and other financial details not disclosed by his school?
• It is said that once Tamerlan was exiting the US, the system "pinged." What exactly is "pinged?"
• Who was the naked man arrested on the same night?
• How did the carjacked Chinese guy, "Danny," who came into the US in 2009, graduated in 2012, and started working in a start-up, afford a $50,000 Mercedes-Benz SUV? Who paid for it?

What should I rather conclude? That the CIA/FBI are thoroughly incompetent to investigate when a lead is provided, that they could not prevent this bomb blast; or are they actually complicit with the creating of these radical elements, up to, and not beyond the point, they get too radicalized, and consequently get out of control?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Articles: The Brothers Tsarnaev and the Danger Whose Name we Dare not Speak

There was little doubt as the week ended that the FBI and HSA both seriously blundered in their treatment of the terrorists and their family, in the lies they told to us about what they had done and why, and there can be little doubt that, absent a sea change, we are in far greater danger now than we were before Obama was elected, a time when we had a president who thought us worthy of defending. Apart from the president's history outlined by Goodwin, we have seen unfolded a series of acts that could only have maximized our peril and that could be directed only from the top levels of the administration.

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The Russian FSB (the successor to the KGB) warned us about the bomber, the CIA brought this information to the FBI which performed a perfunctory interview, never looked at the bomber's Facebook page, and no one seemed to have noticed that he went to Russia for 6 months, doubtless meeting with Islamist Chechen terrorists.

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There is more than a small hint that other federal agencies were involved in getting a Saudi injured at the scene of the blast and tagged a "person of interest" off a watch list and perhaps even spiriting him out of the country.

@pmaitra, The entire article may address many of your questions.

 

[pmaitra]

Articles: The Brothers Tsarnaev and the Danger Whose Name we Dare not Speak


@pmaitra, The entire article may address many of your questions.

Mr. Ewald,

While you have been conspicuous by the limited number of posts in this matter, I must say, you have been spending a lot of time reading and listening, instead of jumping to conclusions, and that is evident from this interesting article that you have shared. You have done what any wise man would do.

There are a few excerpts from that link that I found worth reiterating:

Whether this was just another in a series of blunders or a deliberate act to keep him from revealing more, I am sorry to say I don't know. Given all that preceded this -- including a litany of bald-faced lies megaphoned by the press -- no conspiratorial explanation seems unthinkable.

Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities. Nearly 900 pages were removed from the manuals as a result of that review. Several congressmen were allowed to review the removed materials in 2012, on condition that they not disclose what they read to their staffs, the media, or the general public.

When a file is created in the system the author(s) are notified via email when it is accessed, and given the email address of the person accessing, so there is a record within the government data system of who deleted them. It was amended to remove the deportation reference, then someone later went in and tried to destroy both the original event file and amended versions. Copies had already been made.

I would like to ask you a few questions:

• Why is there so much secrecy involving what the FBI does?
• Why do people, who are given so much power, refuse to openly identify themselves? What do they have to hide? Why are the general public, the electorate, and the taxpayers, not entitled to the identity of these people?
• Why are Congressmen allowed disclosure of secrets on conditions of secrecy? The Congress makes laws by passing bills. They are the people's representatives. Why would they not be entitled to reveal the details to the general public? The FBI and CIA is already rather distrusted entities, and now, if the Congressmen are privy to the documents of the FBI, and refuse to share it with the public, what are the possibilities that the Congressmen themselves might lose the trust of the people who vote them in in the first place?
• One argument could be, forcing the FBI into revealing secrets might jeopardize the investigations. However, given that being informed by the FSB, twice, about the alleged terrorists, two years ago, they have failed to prevent the Boston bombings, is the FBI competent enough to guarantee that no future attacks related to the Boston bombings will take place, and in the same spirit, are they entitled to any secrecy at all, now that 4 people have already been killed, and hundreds maimed?

 

[aerokan]

Everybody has an opinion.

US wants to bring down Assad. Syrian opposition is linked to Al Qaeda. Why does that mean more risk of a terrorist attack on US originating from Syria? Obama denies global jihad and will continue to do so; its support of FSA has not been explained in that or any other context.

RT is a government organ and can be expected to say what Putin wants it to say. Has anyone here seen otherwise?

Yes.. In the 2012 presidential elections.. RT USA has more reliable news that the information manipulating mainstream media like CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc. After watching the elections closely for nearly a year at the grassroot level, i would say, RT USA is far more reliable than any of the media present.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

I would like to ask you a few questions:

• Why is there so much secrecy involving what the FBI does?
• Why do people, who are given so much power, refuse to openly identify themselves? What do they have to hide? Why are the general public, the electorate, and the taxpayers, not entitled to the identity of these people?
• Why are Congressmen allowed disclosure of secrets on conditions of secrecy? The Congress makes laws by passing bills. They are the people's representatives. Why would they not be entitled to reveal the details to the general public? The FBI and CIA is already rather distrusted entities, and now, if the Congressmen are privy to the documents of the FBI, and refuse to share it with the public, what are the possibilities that the Congressmen themselves might lose the trust of the people who vote them in in the first place?
• One argument could be, forcing the FBI into revealing secrets might jeopardize the investigations. However, given that being informed by the FSB, twice, about the alleged terrorists, two years ago, they have failed to prevent the Boston bombings, is the FBI competent enough to guarantee that no future attacks related to the Boston bombings will take place, and in the same spirit, are they entitled to any secrecy at all, now that 4 people have already been killed, and hundreds maimed?

The first question is important because Obama came into office proclaiming that his administration would be the "most transparent in US history."

The second question I have no answer for. There are only a few elected officials who pursue the truth. Michelle Bachmann is one, and is constantly attacked by the party in power and their allies in the news media.

The answer to the third question has to do with representatives putting party loyalty over loyalty to the country and the people who elected them.

As to your fourth question, there are just now scheduled hearings on the Benghazi coverup. Eventually, perhaps, congressional hearings will get to the truth about Boston.