Forget Nato v the Taliban. The real Afghan fight is India v Pakistan

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@Yusuf

India has said clearly and emphatically we are not going to negotiate with Taliban, the folks who sheltered AQ and OBL.
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"They questioned me closely on what the prospects were for peace, on what the exact stand was... but I did not sense they were opposed to it or the talks was something one should stay away from," said Dobbins at a press briefing here Thursday.

Taliban talks figure prominently in US-India dialogue - The New Indian Express
 
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George Crile's "Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary History of the Largest Covert Operation in History" published in 2003 gives a full accounting of American enthusiasm for CIA's Operation Cyclone, which pumped at least $3 billion through the ISI into the hands of extremists lovingly referred to by US officials as the "muj" in those days.

@Yusuf: I hope you watched "Charlie Wilson's War"
 
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US is in a hurry to get out of Afghanistan and this is again Pakistan-ISI spin that Westerners have swallowed hook, line and sinker about India being the big bad guy in Afghanistan.

Off topic, @Singh, @Yusuf, @Virendra -

on William Dalrymple's Tweetlist (@DalrympleWill) he is saying in conversation with one Shashank Joshi, @shashj, that Pakistan is developing nuclear land mines.

Is this even possible ?
They would say anything to mum the Indians into the same old passive Dharma Guru (spiritual mentor) role, where the old man in beautiful robe coughs alone at a corner of the table .. while bullies get on with the real business.
Fear Psychosis ...
 
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And a leader from the ruling party scores a self goal

[TWEET]350668174913585155[/TWEET]
 

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And a leader from the ruling party scores a self goal

[TWEET]350668174913585155[/TWEET]
He would not have bothered to read it. Just the name of Bill Dalrymple was enough for him to recommend it. Most people just tweet to increase their tweet counts & stay relevant in public consciousness.:thumb:
 

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Nuclear Land Mine ? a fig out of some Jihadi imagination...

Nuclear weapons to kill a tank or contaminate 2 sq kms..... ???

Ha Ha Ha.....
 

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He would not have bothered to read it. Just the name of Bill Dalrymple was enough for him to recommend it. Most people just tweet to increase their tweet counts & stay relevant in public consciousness.:thumb:
Shashi is a Coot (to be pronounced as Koot)....
 

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Yes nuclear land mines were made and deployed by the US.
Request tell me to what purpose ??
 

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Nuclear Land Mine ? a fig out of some Jihadi imagination...

Nuclear weapons to kill a tank or contaminate 2 sq kms..... ???

Ha Ha Ha.....
This is actually not a bad strategy.

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Request tell me to what purpose ??
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A face saving gesture to salvage Kerry's visit. US has already decided to seek peace with Taliban and abandon democracy.
 

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A face saving gesture to salvage Kerry's visit. US has already decided to seek peace with Taliban and abandon democracy.
Dude no insurgency can end or subside without negotiations.It is nearly impossible to end an insurgency without negotiations.

For eg closer home we had deployed the Army in Nagaland since 1950's but the insurgency only stopped after GoI talked with NSCN factions.
The story in Assam is also not different.

When Vajpayee was PM he wanted to talk with Hizbul Mujahideen and other militant factions.
 

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Soviet tanks
Nuclear mines for tanks... !! For more than 100000 tanks rolling over Europe !! (earlier USSR war Concept)

That sounds too much awful and unrealistic...

Nuclear weapons can not have tactical objectives and goals. That is the conclusion two earlier superpowers came to !!

In Indo Pak context there is no space whatsoever for use of tactical nuclear weapons... the only place - the Ruhi (Cholistan ) is also increasingly getting populated and full of economic expansion.

And why should one go into Cholistan when Lahore is barely 30 km away.
 
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This is actually not a bad strategy.

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A face saving gesture to salvage Kerry's visit. US has already decided to seek peace with Taliban and abandon democracy.


The purposes of Nuclear Mine as quoted in wiki was to :

"¦not only destroy facilities and installations over a large area, but"¦deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time due to contamination"¦

well that is area denial and not tank hunting !!
 

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Nuclear mines for tanks... !! For more than 100000 tanks rolling over Europe !! (earlier USSR war Concept)

That sounds too much awful and unrealistic...

Nuclear weapons can not have tactical objectives and goals. That is the conclusion two earlier superpowers came to !!

In Indo Pak context there is no space whatsoever for use of tactical nuclear weapons... the only place - the Ruhi (Cholistan ) is also increasingly getting populated and full of economic expansion.

And why should one go into Cholistan when Lahore is barely 30 km away.
Exactly sirji. Pur in Pakiyon ko kaun samjhaye?

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