Fire in Notre dame cathedral

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  1. HariPrasad-1

    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    When India was suffering from terrorism, Europe was enjoying the tamasha. India warned them but they were over confident that it would not happen in Europe. Toni Blair admitted that in an interview with Barkha dutt. He admitted that India had warned them but they over looked it. Now it is the time pay for Europe.
    One thing what they forgot is that India has a capability of fighting with all odds and survive. We have paid heavy price in past but we managed to survive. On the other hand Flimsy European culture does not have the capability to pay the price to protect their civilization. They will surrender and vanish. It is happening in Britain and many other European Nation. The problem with them is they do not have the leadership like Modi , Putin or Trump who can go out right behind terror and eliminate it. They have lost the capability to fight for the cause. It will be an interesting scenario ahead. One think is very sure that they will get very harsh punishment at the hand of Islamist.
     
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  2. Tactical Frog

    Tactical Frog Senior Member Senior Member

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    Privilege flares in Notre Dame fire
    Editorial18 Apr 2019 00:00

    https://mg.co.za/article/2019-04-18-00-privilege-flares-in-notre-dame-fire

    When the main spire of the cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris crumbled, consumed by fire, the world lost one of its most iconic buildings: a towering monument to human endeavour and ingenuity, to our singular ability as a species to transform wood and bricks and glass into an edifice of timeless beauty, loaded with cultural, religious, architectural, artistic and historical significance.

    Its loss provoked an outpouring of grief, sympathy and support. World leaders rushed to express their condolences; newspapers on every continent ran with the story on their front page; and donations poured in to a restoration fund, to the tune of €650-million in just a few hours on Tuesday.

    It was an extraordinary, unprecedented expression of solidarity to a disaster in which no one died and no one was injured. But as the anguished response to the disaster got louder, and as the restoration fund kept on growing, so too did a sense of unease.

    The scale of the response to Notre Dame dwarfed the global response to other tragedies, implying, somehow, that there is something more intrinsically valuable about this French church than, say, the even older temples destroyed by the earthquake in Kathmandu or the millennia of irreplaceable of history contained within the walls of Brazil’s National Museum, which last year was itself the victim of a fire.
    So far, the museum’s restoration fund has been able to attract only €15-million.

    It is also true that the funds raised in response to this cultural disaster dwarf those available to respond to human disasters. Cyclone Idai tore through Southern Africa last month, killing more than 1 000 people and displacing hundreds of thousands more. Mozambique was hit especially hard. But so far, only 23% of Mozambique’s $337-million humanitarian response plan has been funded.

    Some might argue that Mozambique, Brazil and Nepal are far away, they are not France’s problem. And the money raised for Notre Dame’s reconstruction came from private citizens. These are both valid points, but mask the structural inequalities of a global financial system tilted in favour of the West, the colonial legacy on which the wealth of modern France is built, and a cultural hegemony that places Western values, culture and institutions on a pedestal.

    This means that France and its citizens can afford to bounce back from catastrophe and that the rest of the world will experience a French tragedy as its own. This is white privilege at work, on an international scale.

    Not that this should change how any of us respond to the fire at the Notre Dame. But it should change how we respond to the next fire at the next museum in a place that is not as wealthy or as glamorous as Paris. It should change how we respond to the natural disasters, which are likely to increase in frequency and intensity as climate change worsens — with the developing world likely to be hardest hit. It should change how we respond right now to the cyclone in Southern Africa, the drought in East Africa and the floods in South Asia. This would be an achievement grand enough to make up for the cathedral’s spire that was lost to the flames.

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    Hmmm ... okay. White man privilege really ?? I disagree. When Nepal was hit by a hearthquake, it was also world news (at least if you follow the likes of The Guardian). Ilda cyclone was world news too. The Rio museum was world news too ! Now it is true that money did not rain out of billionaires’ pockets , it has nothing to do with white man privilege.
    It is just that in some countries like Brazil the rich obviously don’t care about museums , collections and world heritage. Same in Africa, where it is unlikely to expect from an African billionaire to give hundreds of millions for flood victims.
     
  3. BoseRaoModi

    BoseRaoModi Regular Member

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    White people invented nonsense terms like white privilege to feel better about their guilt of genocide against entire continents of people.

    Go and post your nonsense article about white guilt on white forums. Indians and most Asian cultures don't subscribe to crybabyism
     
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  4. Tactical Frog

    Tactical Frog Senior Member Senior Member

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    Hello ? This is about a supposed white privilege, not white guilt. Thanks for introducing me to a new word , crybabyism.
    Also I am free to post all kind of nonsense here. My privilege :tongue2:
     
  5. BoseRaoModi

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    White guilt, white privilege, white this , white that are all nonsense terms to try to intellectualize western brutality between white people in their domestic discussions.

    Taking other peoples suffering to make it a whitewashed discussion with white hyphenated terms.

    We don't need that false deceitful western narrative in Asian communities anymore than you need jihadi narratives in the west.

    You have the freedom to do as you like don't be a bitch when other people use their freedom to call you on it
     
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    ezsasa Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Since you mentioned african billionaires, just checked...interestingly out of 19 billionaires for entire continent only 7 are black rest are either north african or south african non-blacks.
     
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  7. ashdoc

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    France has achieved a high standard of living compared to Nepal Mozambique and Brazil . People are naturally attracted to money success and glamour and western civilization has that all .
     
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    Well... fair point. We’ll see more wealthy Black Africans with economic liberalization, when it happens. The wealth of entire countries is being confiscated by corrupt politicians and their families ...Dos Santos of Angola or Mugabe of Zimbabwe, endless list.
     
  9. BoseRaoModi

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    My favourite line.

    Were the resources of your former colonies close by? You went further than that to murder, rape and steal and now your resources, built on the blood of the people you subjugated, are communal property of the disenfranchised and down trodden of the world that you created.

    Either you live up to your actions and pay financial restitution to the reasonable camp of the world or you can deal with your fellow abrahamics from the mid east that want you to to pay them in your blood.

    The first step is to stop acting like an imbecile
     
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    Notre-Dame Cathedral Fire – Was the investigation a sham to cover up for French Govt policy failures? Is French Government hiding the Truth?
    15th April 2019 will be remembered as a dark day in the French history. A structure fire broke out beneath the roof of Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris on 15 April 2019 at 18:20 CEST. Smoke was massive that the color was different than the one when wood is burned. French Government promised an investigation. A lot of Experts came on media and presented their opinion.

    Benjamin Mouton, An Architect who was in the past involved in the restoration of Notre-Dame speaks
    Benjamin Mouton, An Architect who was in the past involved in the restoration of Notre-Dame also was of the opinion that it was a conspiracy. On a news channel discussion, he said “Oak that is 800 years old is very hard. Try to burn it, Old oak doesn’t burn like that… You would need a lot of kindling to succeed.” “Wiring was updated in 90s, so there is no possibility of a short circuit”

    Trying to light fire to old beam with a torch
    To disapprove the theory of Old oak getting burnt easily, enthusiasts tried different methods to light fire to old beam with a torch and it doesn’t burn easily while the Oak in the cathedral was 800 years old.

    People can be seen in the Cathedral at the time of Fire.
    Cathedral was set on fire at a time when there was no workers on the scene. However, the videos received of the fire and the Firefighters also claimed that there were some people inside the cathedral when the church got on fire. Who were those people?

    As per firefighters who put out the fire, alleged “there was a odd smell in the air at the time of the fire.” However, it was also overlooked.

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    Map shared on social media showing the Churches destroyed or desecrated in last 4 years
    Soon after the fire, the social media was full of other Christian sites in France that have been destroyed or desecrated in the last four years. As per one person there were 400 such Christian sites that were destroyed or desecrated in last 4 years.

    Another massive fire in French city Versailles, buildings were burning near the former residence of the Kings of France
    On 24th April there was another massive fire in French city Versailles, buildings were burning near the former residence of the Kings of France. Looking at the massive size and intensity of the flames that looked exactly like the Notre-Dame Cathedral fire with the same color of the smoke, it looked like a highly combustible chemical was used to burn the buildings. However, the possibility of the usage of a highly combustible chemical was ignored by investigators in Notre-Dame Cathedral fire.

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    ISIS came up with posters depicting Big Ben ablaze
    A month after the fire in May 2019, ISIS came up with posters depicting Big Ben ablaze as reminiscent of the massive fire in April that destroyed roof and spire of Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris. ISIS groups calling it ‘retribution and punishment’ and telling the western countries to “Wait for the next”.

    France was one of the pioneers in the EU to allow millions of Islamic Radicals in EU as refugees. If you look at the pictures or videos of the arrivals of the so called refugees in Europe, all are young Muslim males and none are accompanied with women or old people. Many people on social media claim that this is a systematic Islamic Invasion of the Europe in connivance with Liberal Politicians. It is an attempt to destroy the culture of freedom of Europe and establish a Sharia law worldwide. Islamist Radicals cannot tolerate Christian Churches or other sites.

    French resident talk about how the other centuries old sites were desecrated in the past by Islamist Radicals, however the Liberals just laughed at it and the culprits were let go scot-free
    In one such video obtained, a French resident talk about how the other centuries old sites were desecrated in the past by Islamist Radicals, however the Liberals just laughed at it and the culprits were let go scot-free. Would that have happened if the same was done by a Christian to an Islamic place of worship? People are calling it hypocrisy of the Liberals and the French government where people are being subdued and voices suppressed in the name of Islamophobia.

    Yesterday the news was circulated by French Government in the media that as per the preliminary investigation, “A badly stubbed-out cigarette or an electrical fault could have started the devastating fire that ripped through Notre-Dame cathedral in April, ruling out any criminal intent.

    Should Christians around the world accept this investigation report and close their eyes to thousands of other similar incidents and accept them as accidents? There is a growing demand on social media that US and other countries should send their Forensic experts and do a neutral investigation of the Notre-Dame Fire. Will French Government accept the demand for an independent International Forensics team to investigate?
    https://news-communique.com/index.p...ilures-is-french-government-hiding-the-truth/

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