Financial Action Task Force (FATF) puts Pakistan in the terror financing grey list

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  1. mayfair

    mayfair Elite Member Elite Member

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    Brainwashing is not what this is- this is complete and utter self-created delusion, because the truth is too bitter for them to swallow.

    Napakis delude themselves as a drug-addict keeps on taking crack cocaine because not being on the drug brings with it such symptoms that makes it unbearable.

    Napakis very well know that they are bastards of conquest. The invaders did not ride in with families, they were Almost ALL men- so naturally the woman they bedded were all the ancestors of the present-day Napakis. The women were bedded against their will as a trophy of conquest and Napakis were borne out of this. The rest are products of those men and women who rather than fight, chose to GUBO and taken on the faith of their oppressors.

    Shitistanis have nothing to call their own- no culture, no traditions, no faith and definitely no achievements. They forsake their native culture to latch onto that of their oppressors, but the modern day descendants of those invaders refuse to consider Napakis as anything more than speck or dirt on their boots.

    So to avoid facing the uncomfortable realities, Napakis as a nation have developed therewith own delusional world- a world where they were the rulers of all land, especially India and a world where they are superior to every Muslim and Non-Muslim out there, especially Indians and Hindus and a world where they believe that they are divinely ordained to rule over Hindus again.

    This is not brainwashing, this is being delusional, schizophrenic, bipolar and absolutely inept and incompetent on top of that with no worthwhile skills whatsoever.
     
  2. 1971ftw

    1971ftw Regular Member

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    Pakistans logic :" if we believe a lie long enough it will become a fact"

    Seriously love it when they claim they are arabs & turk Muslim migrants or claim their ancestors were not Hindu.

    I mean , come on , they are neighboured the highest hindu populated states in India , Hinduism had enough cultural influence to have spread all the way till Indonesia ,Malaysia & Japan. Yet they believe a fictional line drawn by British wipes out real history
     
  3. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    These inbred morons can twist anything into positive news. Good let them continue
    Twisting till they make the black list; which they will
     
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  4. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Do you want to be associated with these rejects??
     
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    ezsasa Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Even day before yesterday, in a paki tv debate they were blaming India for creation of Bangladesh. One guy out of six panellists was explaining the historical reasons starting from 1948. They were not allowing him to speak and not allowing others to listen.
     
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  6. abingdonboy

    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    I suspect Pakistan will do just enough by June to avoid the black list, they have quite a talent in wriggling out of desperate situations- many countries in their position would've been sanctioned a long time back but Pakistan has played the game well for a long time.
     
  7. cyclops

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    It depends, the temporary government in place in Napakiland might not want to risk doing something radical that might cause major upheavals.

    But then again there is the sectarian pov, the terrorist leaders who have a certain degree of hold among different sectors and sections of the paki public and are now allowed to contest elections might not want to lose power and end up instigating riots and stuff.
    After all, the khatam e nabuwat controversy last year which sparked country wide riots proves how easy it is to invoke riots in napakiland.

    Or give US a freebie in Afghanistan and make all this go away.
     
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  8. 1971ftw

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    They will probably give up one of their Taliban assets & make a deal with U.S. by back channels . India won't get much out of this , at most they will temporarily arrest Hafez saeed
     
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  9. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    India can get a more solid footing in Afghanistan .
     
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    __________ EU retained Pakistan's GSP Plus status ________
     
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  11. delbruky

    delbruky THE VALOR OF BHAI SATI DAS 1621-1675

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    THe best access to AFG and Central Asia that India can get is through GB, which India rightfully claims to be it's integral part.
     
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  12. Villager

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    Pakistan to find itself on Black list after june if it does not prepare a comprehensive action plan to eradicate terrorist financing .

    Between now and June, Pakistan will have to work out the details of the evaluation process with the FATF and a failure to do so could trigger another process, which may push Pakistan on the blacklist of wilful violators.

    Usually, the FATF waits for a mutual evaluation report before starting the listing process but in Pakistan’s case, the group took an unprecedented step when it agreed to debate a US proposal, backed by Britain, France and Germany, to nominate Pakistan as a country having “strategic deficiencies” in “countering financing of terrorism”.

    “The move was against the understanding given to Pakistan that Islamabad will be asked to work with the FATF on an action plan, before the listing process starts,” an official source told Dawn.

    The Paris plenary held its first meeting on Pakistan on Feb 20 where China, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which was representing the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) as it’s not a full member, opposed the move to place Pakistan on the watchlist. But the US pushed for an unprecedented second discussion on Pakistan, held on Feb 22.

    By then, Washington had convinced Riyadh to give up its support to Pakistan in return for a full FATF membership. This left only two – China and Turkey – in the Pakistan camp, one less than the required number of three members to stall a move.

    At this stage, the Chinese informed Islamabad that they were opting out as they did not want to “lose face by supporting a move that’s doomed to fail”, another official source told Dawn. “Pakistan appreciated the Chinese position and conveyed its gratitude to Turkey for continuing to support Islamabad against all odds,” the source added.

    Pakistan was first put on the FATF grey list in 2012 but was removed in 2015, after the FATF certified that Islamabad had done enough to counter terror financing.

    Now, Pakistan will have to follow the same process that it did in 2015, starting with an action plan that Islamabad is required to submit in May. If the FATF approves the action plan in June, it will make a formal announcement about placing Pakistan on the grey list. Should Islamabad fail to submit an action plan, or if the FATF does not accept it, the group can place Pakistan on its black list, along with North Korea and Iran.
     
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  13. mayfair

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    So all that bluster about Asia bibi was just that...bluster??
     
  14. Chinmoy

    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Guys, remember that China is now in VP position of FATF. So it would have implications on June outcome.
     
  15. Butter Chicken

    Butter Chicken Senior Member Senior Member

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    China has already signed a guarantee that it will not intervene wrt Pakistan at FATF
     
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  16. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    I don't think so, chinese got embarrassed when S.Arabia switched sides to support USA leaving only China and Turkey in favor of Pakistan.

    Chinese are shrewd businessmen.
     
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  17. Chinmoy

    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Chine guarantee ................. Yeah something to swear by.

    Reminds me of 'I Love You' invention... :biggrin2:
     
  18. Chinmoy

    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    There are always back door politics which plays part.
     
  19. Butter Chicken

    Butter Chicken Senior Member Senior Member

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    China is well integrated with the global financial system and follows the rules,it will abide by it.
    It will only play politics at future UN sanctions against Pak(if Pakistan doesn't surrender and things escalate)
     
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  20. Haldiram

    Haldiram Senior Member Senior Member

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    Right.

    It wouldn't have been possible to add Paksitan to the grey list if China decided to not allow it. They have been having some trouble with the Uyghur militants being trained in Pakistan. This was their way of sending a signal to Pakistan. It's unlikely that they will allow Pakistan to slip into the blacklist because that will put the entire financial burden of sustaining the Pakistani economy on China or USA which, which is affordable for the US but too costly for China.

    The US wants to drain Pakistan of its extra foreign reserve to make it reliant on US aid again. The US coult have easily allowed the Pakistani economy to grow organically it if wanted but it has actually imposed heavy taxes on Pakistani raw materials like textiles and fruits ever since the war on terror has begun, to make sure Pakistan doesn't evolve a real economy of its own and remains a slave of the US aid.

    It's very likely that China will save Pakistan from being added to the blacklist to avert this possibility. But one thing that is guaranteed is that for these 3 months when Pakistan has to pretend to be a good boy and not escalate tensions too much, India will hammer it from all sides and test its patience. That is why Bajwa said yesterday "policy of restraint to continue". We have them by the balls.

    Let's give credit where its due. Modi had promised that he would lobby all over the globe to isolate Pakistan. Delivered.
     

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