Financial Action Task Force (FATF) puts Pakistan in the terror financing grey list

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

I dont get this statement From Russia , so is Russia telling Pakis has no role in funding Tangos in Afghanistan

http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-claim...ists-afghanistan-unmarked-helicopters-2655899

 

[indiazain]

To begin with we need to be friends and do business with powerful enemies of Porkisthan and China.For instance our relation with Israel,USA ,Japan and Australia must be enhanced.Russia was a reliable friend of India until this war mongering Putin came to power.Putin keeps behaving as a shameless playboy without brains. In fact for sometime I actually admired this Putin who turns out be a coward.First he allows the Turks to shoot down his su25 and now the Americans to simply wipe out a lot of Russians.America in this age would have declared war on any country if the same attack happened to black-water. In the End we in India must realize that we dont have permanent friends or enemies just relations based on the exchange of Money. Ultimately our goal is to ensure we develop technologically in House.Currently we are making slow progress but ultimately we will have to be fully self reliant.

 

[Mikesingh]

So Pak escaped from being included in the grey list of the FATF for the time being which is a big blow to our foreign policy. Our mandarins in the External Affairs ministry must be running for cover after this debacle.

But what is not clear is whether Russia too was responsible. If yes, this is alarming as it will confirm that there indeed is a growing alliance between Russia, China, Turkey and Pak.

The Porkis are going to have a ball today whilst cocking a snook at India. They are the ones who will be having the last laugh with their media going berserk at defeating India which had voted against Pak.

Pak is one up....so far.

 

[Tony HMG]

Where the bhakts having wet dreams of Pakistan being slowly disintegrated ??loads of shit. Our foreign policy and those incharge of it are utter chutiyas. Don't blame Putin, we have to fight our own war. Stop begging.

 

[Bahamut]

Where the bhakts having wet dreams of Pakistan being slowly disintegrated ??loads of shit. Our foreign policy and those incharge of it are utter chutiyas. Don't blame Putin, we have to fight our own war. Stop begging.

Foreign policy is best lest to a expert , a ex diplomat is more suited for the job .Most importantly we donot have a coherent policy on Pakistan.We change from no talks to official visit.Firstly we need to isolate Pakistan military as it is the most powerful institute in the country .Our forign minster should be addressing other nation parliament on activity of ISI and tell how from Islamic terror to north korean nukes is due to ISI

 

[hit&run]

Porkis struggling to get their name out of Terror Financing nations list and now out on bail for 3 months somehow becomes India's diplomatic defeat.

Too many dolts who do not invest time to understand larger phenomenons and realpolitik but only want to see things in black and white.

 

[hit&run]

I dont get this statement From Russia , so is Russia telling Pakis has no role in funding Tangos in Afghanistan

http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-claim...ists-afghanistan-unmarked-helicopters-2655899

USA has sanctioned Russia.

Russia will oppose everything that USA does, even if it hurts India.
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Indians seems to live in their own la la land.

It is quite imprudent on Indians part to analys every thing being Pakistan centric.

Taking sides will be deleterious for India at this stage when Russia is sanctioned and making desperate attempts by making compromises with China.

Russia is selling its energy to China which it wanted to preserve for its long term strategy against USA.

The very same reason it captured Crimea and oppose TAPI.

Russia has gone against its on Mathematics but pretending not to be bothered about all this.

American are winning yet again. Trump on the other hand wants to normalize with Russia but American establishment knows the long term game therefore they are resisting Trump who willy-nilly agrees with them.

Coming back to role played by India then Modi definitely started tilting towards USA but soon Russia invaded Crimea as Obama was about to visit India. We malow down our tilt to wait what unfolds.

 

[Flame Thrower]

Question is what's going to change in these three months!!??

Why people are getting angry and scared with this breathing space!?

How does this three months help Pak to get out of the FATF radar!? And what should Pak do(without hurting JeM supporters sentiments and convince FATF guys!?)

If I remember correctly, then IMF and WB we're also members

The way I see it, we can use this as a blessing in disguise if we could use WB to force Pak to agree on changing IWT from 20:80 (Ind : pak) to 50:50.

 

[S.Balaji]

FATF has declined to confirm the outcome.

However even if the tweet is true, Russia would not have been the road block. No country would jeopardize 50+ year friend and Strategic partner & leading economic power house for a cesspool like Pakistan. In the past paki media has cited unnamed sources alluded to Russia's support for Pakistan in couple of instances where it was inimical to India, those turned out to be false later denied strongly by Russian Government.

PATF has deferred taking a decision because 35 member countries failed to arrive at a consensus. Remember consensus means unanimous decision, meaning all 35 should agree. These members include Turkey & Gulf economic council. Both's resistance is enough to defer the decision. Russia's role is just a googly by paki media.

 

[hit&run]

Question is what's going to change in these three months!!??

Why people are getting angry and scared with this breathing space!?

How does this three months help Pak to get out of the FATF radar!? And what should Pak do(without hurting JeM supporters sentiments and convince FATF guys!?)

If I remember correctly, then IMF and WB we're also members

The way I see it, we can use this as a blessing in disguise if we could use WB to force Pak to agree on changing IWT from 20:80 (Ind : pak) to 50:50.

The takeaway is that the motion was proposed by Pakistan's two main supporters.

Even if pakistan remains out of the list they have got the stern message to fall in line. When the fall in line for USA they fall out of the line for others.

No top of it, the humiliation they have suffered in last couple of weeks; going by their media discourse; is priceless.

 

[hit&run]

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FATF has declined to confirm the outcome.

However even if the tweet is true, Russia would not have been the road block. No country would jeopardize 50+ year friend and Strategic partner & leading economic power house for a cesspool like Pakistan. In the past paki media has cited unnamed sources alluded to Russia's support for Pakistan in couple of instances where it was inimical to India, those turned out to be false later denied strongly by Russian Government.

PATF has deferred taking a decision because 35 member countries failed to arrive at a consensus. Remember consensus means unanimous decision, meaning all 35 should agree. These members include Turkey & Gulf economic council. Both's resistance is enough to defer the decision. Russia's role is just a googly by paki media.

China Man has habit of speaking for others and Pakistanis have habit of making Daddy out of anyone.

These days they are desperately pursuing Russia to be their long term Daddy. They are holding their legs and refusing to let it go.

Watch from 2 mins onwards


This is situation of Pakistanis with anyone they think can save them from India.

 

[AMCA]

Don't believe in pak media propaganda. according to The Tribune final decision will be made on Thursday i.e tomorrow.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/ne...final-decision-on-pak-on-thursday/547425.html

 

[SanjeevM]

What nation has politicians visiting enemies during tense military standoffs?
And running for leadership positions.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rahul-gandhi-meets-delegation-of-communist-party-of-china-1796507

Rahul Gandhi Meets Delegation Of Communist Party of China

In initial 3 years Modi visited several countries. As a result we have world opinion in our favor. There was a section of libtards and Anti Modi lobby that started questioning Modi's frequent foreign travels. This is the result if you neglect travels to friends. Seems like Pakistan minister visit to Russia was to get Russia to vote to save Pakistanis ass to buy time. Not sure what benefit Russia saw. It may be that anything sponsored by US & UK, Russia will oppose. So Indians should have also jointly sponsored the bill.

Rachel's visit to China clearly proved that he has gone to China to lick their a@@ and get China to fund congress in elections in 2019. This is treason. I hope this news reaches everyone in India.

 

[Screambowl]

It is only India who sees terrorism as problem and what has India been doing to eradicate terrorism? Nothing.
Most of the countries are into proxy war with eachother and they understand very well that the terrorism is a tool.

When will India realize that terrorism is a tool and has not diplomatic solution but only military solution! Be it the proxy war in Kashmir.

Everytime they go to UN shout there oh we are giving IITs and IIMs , Pak is giving LeM and HuM. These are fancy words which do not have long lasting effect.

And Pakistan also has its own machinery to counter diplomatic moves by India. Why do you think Pakis went to China? They know that this is the only way geopolitics works.

They have learnt a lot from US during coldwar.

By the way this is not the first time they are being considered to be enlisted. They were there before but later removed.

 

[1971ftw]

Russia wants a unstable Afghanistan just like Pakistan.

 

[delbruky]

In my opinion however one might want to sugar coat it this is not the first time Russians have betrayed India and won't be the last.

Betrayal 1. Assassination of LB Shastri and abetting congress in corrupt practices against India.
Betrayal 2. Providing sub standard spares for all the migs leading to several trained and rookie pilot deaths
Betrayal 3, Refusing India critical technologies and maps in the hour of need and in the event of wars like Cryo Tech, Kargil Maps and instead supplying defective cryo engines, and crappy maps.
Betrayal 4. Colluding with communists and socialists of India and actively subverting and Spying
Betrayal 5. Sharing all the techs that India paid for in FULL and is still paying royalties for with china eg. SU 27, SU 30, IL 76, T72 and T90 tanks. Doing this even though the Chinese back stabbed Russians many times by copying techs
Betrayal 6. Competing against Indian interests in Iran' FARZAD B fields that ONGC discovered and paid for.
AND Finally colluding with Pakistan and China against Indian interests in UN, Afghanistan and supplying arms and ammo to terrorists.

I am amazed at the fall of Russia from the Soviet Days up until today. What ever happened to the pride of Lenin, Nikita and Krutchev. I never thought I would see a day where the Russis will be ass licking the very country that actively took part in the collapse of USSR.

The bottom line is Russia deserves CRIPPLING sanctions from US and UN and should be kicked out of Syria. Also Russia should be banned from SWIFT just like was done to Iran until PUTEEE resigns and the top leadership is replaced. Democracy and Elections in Russia are a big farce.

 

[cannonfodder]

Porki media seem to suggest chinese saved them as usual. 34 votes against them and 1 from dragon to buy more time

 

[Kalki_2018]

Russia is irrelevant since it accepted a secondary role to china. India is going to go with the quad alliance and russia has little to offer. Hopefully this kills the S-400 and Krivak deals. Much better to develop our own LR-SAM, BMD and P-17a frigates.

 

[ezsasa]

We have to remember that from now on anything that happens in Pakistan (even if it is to our advantage), has nothing to do with us.
It has everything to do with CHINA.

If pakis one fine day decide to abandon china, every thing will be back to normal and will again be given the long rope again.

 

[Flame Thrower]

If pakis one fine day decide to abandon china, every thing will be back to normal and will again be given the long rope again.

Nope....China is not that stupid.

Earlier US could twist Pak only to some extent as Pak was dependent on US funds. As China replaced those funds Pak got bold enough not to cooperate with US.

But China has debt to control Pak. Before Pak could realize what had happened, Chinese exports will destroy Pak industry and most of Pak infrastructure will be in Chinese hands(like 99 yr leased Hambantota Port). Even declaring Bankruptcy will not help.