Family, live-in couples, and homosexuality: we need a Hindu Family Act

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  1. tamilandhindu

    tamilandhindu Regular Member

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    The majority of the populace do not register their marriages with government, thereby they are unable to obtain many benefits of being married, including certain legal rights such as inheritance. Marriage is still seen as a cultural and local issue that cannot be dealt with at a State or Federal level.

    The Supreme Court has provided rights to long-term live-in couples. The government does not need to legislate in the area of marriage beyond certain key legal rights, and homosexuals should also be given the same legal rights as a heterosexual live-in couples.

    I propose that we should create a new 'Hindu Family Act' to only cover the legal procedures that govern the benefits provided to live-in couples. It is essentially a condensed version of several acts, with rewording to ensure gender neutrality and support for homosexuals and transgenders. I listed the various acts and what I would change about them below:
    • Hindu Marriage Act; at least 18 years old and of sound mind; ability to void relationship if thought to be 'forced'; judicial divorce and separation procedures.
    • Domestic Violence Act; it should be extended to cover abuse against males, transgenders and homosexuals.
    • Hindu Minority and Guardianship Act; a father and mother equally act as the guardian and have responsibility for the welfare of the child, until it is at least eighteen years old and also financially independent.
    • Maternity Benefit Act; the right for a caretaker to take time off work to care for a newly born child that the person is responsible for.
    • Hindu Succession Act; immediate family (partners, children) receive inheritance first, followed by extended family, regardless of gender.
    • Hindu Adoption and Maintenance Act; simplified adoption requirements to any mentally sound man or woman who has a means to provide for the child; provide maintenance for males and any infirmed relative (including infirmed offspring above the age of majority).
    • Hindu Discrimination Act; illegal to discriminate against a family member due to its gender, skin color, or sexuality.
    I propose that the spouse visa be replaced with a 'dependants visa' which is based purely on income to support the dependant (I note that even Saudi Arabia does not allow spouse visas for more than one wife.) so that multiple partners can be allowed for. It should therefore be possible to obtain visas for any dependants including parents and homosexuals.

    Hindu traditions can then be left to localities and temples to deal with. I was also thinking about dealing with certain caste related issues in the Act to but I'm not well informed on the subject to be able to discuss it well.
     
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    We need an act to stop conversion from marriage too - we need this to protect our demographic.
     
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    the thing that's done in my state is this:
    since we all belong to particular castes, arranged marriages r solemnized within the presence of members from our caste organization. and i think it is doable in other states as well. but it is important for caste organizations to b educated abt this.
    For eg; I am a nair and for my wedding to be legal, it must be registered with the NSS(nair service society) during the wedding and then later on(within the 1st mnth of wedding) with the govt level as well.
    During the ceremony, members from NSS org must b present (i believe 2 male and 2 female members). They were the ones who fill up the marriage registration form and all in my case.

    Again to reap the benefits, hindus(meant believers) shud unite and then stand as one unit. but that's still a distant dream.
     
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    Indx TechStyle War Mongerer Veteran Member Senior Member

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    An amended UCC should be implemented in place eliminating any kind of religious interference during birth, marriage or death.
     
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    There is already a Hindu Marriage Act. As per traditional Hindu Law stated by Manusmriti and Dharmashatra Scriptures marriages are performed as per anointed rituals. In India due to our overwhelming diversity we have different laws for different religions. That's why bigamy is overlooked in Islamic Law but forbidden in Hindu Law.


    One of the main reasons why homosexuals and transgenders have no laws involving marriage is because the concept of marriage revolves around reproduction. We call family in India 'Sansaar' or world in Sanskrit. In every single religion we have no allowance for homosexual marriage or 'live - in' laws. Civil unions even in countries that have legalised gay marriage have very shaky ground for qualification of legal recognition.


    The language in our personal laws is clearly heterosexual. Even special marriage act cannot allow homosexual marriage. That’s why there was a massive push by the LGBTQRST lobby for a Uniform Civil Code which included language for homosexual marriage based on Yogyakarta Principle ‘family’ exclusion rules. However government got wise and had Law Commission scrap it just before Sec 377 verdict. Govt. has also made clear that they will firmly oppose gay marriage and may even bring out ordinance like SC/ST Act to overwrite an activist SC’s judgement. Heck, just like GST they may even make a constitutional amendment to declare all legal unions as heterosexual only.


    SC verdict in 377 was based on NALSA and RTP judgements. All three were cases of judicial overreach. SC if it tries to modify laws will face entire web of personal laws all contradicting SC judgement. Govt. then can move to referendum like in Romania and declare the amendment. I am not even considering the religious violence against the LGBTQRST lobby that will erupt after the decision. SC watered down the SC/ST act and people burnt buses and got killed. All parties hurriedly moved to placate the public by introducing ordinance.
     
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    (contd.)

    Knowing this LGBTQRST gay lobby is trying to subvert Hindu agenda by pitting us against desert religions, hoping our population has more of the LGBTQRST population and can push for more ‘diversity’ in Asia Pacific. See pushes in Malaysia and Singapore post Sec 377 judgement. That is the whole push for Legal Union status. You give a finger they WILL take a hand. The West is dying because of pandering to nature's 'glitch' we shouldn't as well.

    JAI SHRI RAM! HAR HAR MAHADEV!


    https://world.wng.org/2016/07/depression_and_same_sex_parenting
     
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    https://www.opindia.com/2018/12/new...-at-a-gay-bar-male-adults-throw-money-at-him/
    Are progressives normalising paedophilia? 11 year old dances at a gay bar while adults throw money at him
    The developments ought to concern us in India as well considering the fact that Indian liberalism is Western Progressivism with a time lag.

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    On the 1st of December, an 11-year old kid, dressed in drag attire, danced in a sexually provocative manner at a gay bar in New York called ‘3 Dollars Bill’, the Daily Wire has reported. The matter was first raised by YouTuber Yosef Ozia of Ozia Media.

    The media outlet reported, “The child, Desmond Napoles, was dressed as a Gwen Stefani-lookalike — full drag makeup, a blonde wig, and crop top included — as he bounced around onstage to No Doubt’s “Like a Girl” and collected dollar bills from male adults viewing the number.”

    People on Twitter were horrified at the exploitation of the child by his parents. The child’s parents are being accused of brainwashing him to benefit themselves financially.

    Sexualizing and promoting a 10-year-old drag queen this way is just shameful.

    And it’s not just the gay community.

    Desmond was on Good Morning America just last month: https://t.co/efVPBqmyaD

    Where is our moral compass as a society? https://t.co/Ip8WRXfTDD

    — Jeff Giesea[​IMG] (@jeffgiesea) December 17, 2018


    Some have also called it ‘criminal’ on the part of the parents.

    11-Year-Old Boy Dressed In Drag Dances At Gay Bar, Gets Dollar Bills Thrown At Him

    “When Desmond was just six years old, he was featured in a music video with drag queen and Season Six winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race…”

    Six years old. This is criminal. https://t.co/oB4aTpMewv

    — John Cardillo (@johncardillo) December 18, 2018

    People also pointed out the duplicity of the mainstream narrative. They said that if it were a little girl at a bar who dressed in such a manner and had money thrown at her by straight males, there would be immediate arrests.

    An 11 year-old boy in drag danced At night in a club for money. This is sexual abuse & child abuse. If this was a little girl dancing in a club while straight men threw money at her there’d be arrests, child taken into protective custody and club shutdown. https://t.co/ZFUNj7GjjD

    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) December 18, 2018

    10-year old boy dances on stage for cash at adult “queer” nightclub.

    If this were a 10-year-old girl, there would be outrage & phone calls to child protection.

    But Desmond is a famous “drag kid”, so his sexualization is just fun & games.#groominghttps://t.co/Wt29CF2j4D pic.twitter.com/6Fs0fQXDFX

    — Ystriya #MeghanMurphy (@ystriyahysteria) December 15, 2018

    The mainstream media has long promoted Desmond as an inspirational figure and branded his parents as ‘progressive heroes’. To anyone who still has a brain, the entire charade reeks of paedophilia.

    We have earlier reported on the attempts to normalize paedophilia in the West. In an independently organized TEDx event in Germany, the speaker painted paedophiles as victims and asserted that they deserve ‘acceptance’.

    There have also been attempts by certain sections of the LGBT community to expand the eternally growing set of letters in the acronym to include ‘P’ for Pedophilia. Thus far, it has not found acceptance within the mainstream community.

    However, ‘Drag Kids’ have widespread acceptance in the community, a phenomenon that is deeply problematic. Kids are also being encouraged to receive hormone therapy before reaching adolescence merely because they ‘feel’ they were born in the ‘wrong body’. The ‘feelings’ may well be temporary but hormone therapy is permanent and there’s no going back from it.

    The developments ought to concern us in India as well considering the fact that Indian liberalism is Western Progressivism with a time lag. The ideas that gain prominence in the West are automatically applied to the Indian context by liberals here. We saw that with the ‘Blacks Live Matter’ narrative which was transported to and furthered by hard-line Leftist under the banner of ‘Dalit Lives Matter’. The concept of ‘White Supremacy’ was applied as ‘Brahmin Supremacy’. Progressivism considers White Males to be the root of all problems while in India, liberals demonize Brahmin males.

    Therefore, the normalization of paedophilia in the West ought to concern us all.
     
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    Lok Sabha passes Surrogacy (Regulation) Bill 2016 which bans commercial surrogacy
    TNN | Dec 19, 2018, 08.37 PM IST
    NEW DELHI: Amid protests by the Opposition over the Rafale deal on Wednesday, the Lok Sabha passed the Surrogacy (Regulation) Bill 2016, aimed at banning commercial surrogacy to protect women from exploitation. The House also proposed to allow only altruistic surrogacy by infertile Indian couples from a "close relative" only.

    The couple also has to be legally married for at least five years and possess a certificate from a doctor stating that they are medically unfit to produce a child, according to the provisions of the Bill.

    Singles, homosexuals and live-in couples cannot apply for surrogacy. Besides, couples who already have children will also not be allowed to opt for surrogacy.

    The Bill entitles only Indian citizens to avail of surrogacy, whereas foreigners, NRIs and PIOs are not allowed to commission surrogacy in the country.

    According to the provisions of the Bill, women within the age group of 23 years to 50 years and men aged between 26 and 55 years will be eligible to go in for surrogacy. The child, thus born, will be deemed to be the legal offspring of the intended couple. Also, a woman can be a surrogate only once in her lifetime.

    The Bill was approved by the Cabinet in August 2016. It was introduced in the Lok Sabha in November 2016 and was later referred to a parliamentary standing committee on health and family welfare in January 2017.

    Once enacted by Parliament, the national surrogacy board will be constituted at the central level, while the states and Union territories will constitute the state surrogacy boards and state appropriate authorities within three months of the notification by the Union government.

    Terming the Bill as historic, health minister JP Nadda said different sections of society, political parties, the Supreme Court and the law commission have spoken against commercial surrogacy and that the Bill addresses these concerns.

    The surrogacy (regulation) bill was passed after an hour long debate in the Lok Sabha amid noisy protests by Congress and AIADMK members over various issues.

    Though members of different parties who spoke during the debate supported the bill, some including Kakoli Ghosh Dastidar of the Trinamool Congress and Supriya Sule (NCP) exhorted the government to expand its scope.
     
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    All gays lesbians bisexuals should be sent to mental asylum and treated as mentally challenged. No rights to family, children. If they don’t change, send them to prison. Keep them away from normal population.
     
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