Falkland Islands part deux

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  1. Godless-Kafir

    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    Why would Argentina say that it is going to War with UK? They would just do an normal defense upgrade program and one day invade preemptively.
     
  2. The Messiah

    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    not everyone is naive specially those that sit behind the scenes and advice the govt's of various countries.

    argentina can only buy from russia, china or us. Even france is a good bet but they'll have pressure from british and eu.
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    Dont think so, they already have Israeli fighters or armaments in their military.
     
  4. civfanatic

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    Where will you get the personnel to man the equipment? They must be trained in their use and that takes a lot of time and money.

    What about logistics for the operation? Argentina does not have experience operating most of the equipment that you mentioned; logistic chains will have to be built afresh, which will be time-consuming and expensive as well.
     
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  5. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    SSNs and Aster-30s are the game changers. It makes it all but impossible to approach by air or by sea. You need to buy something to neutralise it while getting your troops ashore.
     
  6. weg

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    Aster is installed on the Type 45 destroyer of course, stationed off Falklands now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Daring_(D32).

    Argentina has no money, they went bankrupt again in 2001 and their currency devalued by 70%.

    The British destroyed 75% of their air force and since then the remainder has, basically, rotted. Nobody is supplying argentina with military equipment even if they could afford it.


    As much as I love the Harrier, they were very very old. Keeping the Tornado's and Typhoons is a better bet than the Harriers which are a certain dead end. I thought they were a good fit for India, but the deal with the US was about helping a ally keeping their Harriers flying to cover the F-35 delay.

    The fact is the UK doesn't need a carrier to defend the Falklands and therefore it doesn't need the harriers. The islands are the most powerful, unsinkable aircraft carrier in the South Atlantic.


    BTW, Argentina's defense spending is 0.9% of GDP. $3billion per year.
     
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  7. W.G.Ewald

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  8. W.G.Ewald

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    Argentina to invade Falklands after 30th anniversary furore dies down, commander warns - Telegraph
     
  9. BillyJTindall

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    With the Falklands the people there have always wanted to be part of Britain with thier more enhanced citizenship.
     
  10. W.G.Ewald

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    British nuclear submarine sent to Falklands

    Sub on way to Falklands | Mail Online
     
  11. asianobserve

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    Nuclear sub diplomacy... this is becoming in vogue in these days of formidable anti-ship missiles.
     
  12. LurkerBaba

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    ( It's irritating to see BBC quote almost every word in the article :rolleyes:)
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    Argentina accused of Falkland Islands 'blockade'


    BBC News - Argentina accused of Falkland Islands 'blockade'
     
  13. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    So, what is Britain planning to do now?
     
  14. LurkerBaba

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    Quite convenient, btw this article has comments

    Falkland Islands to hold referendum on sovereignty
     
  15. W.G.Ewald

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    Falkland Islanders vote 98.8% in favour of staying British

    LONDON: Falkland Islanders on Monday voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining a British oversees territory in a referendum designed to send a strong message to Argentina, which earlier derided the poll as illegal.

    Some 92 percent of the islands' 1,672 eligible voters turned out to deliver a 98.8 per cent "yes" vote in favour of staying an internally self-governing British territory, election officials in capital Port Stanley announced.


    Only three votes were cast against the islands remaining British.

    The resounding "yes" result, delivered at around 22:30 pm (0130 GMT) on the remote South Atlantic archipelago, was not in doubt, setting the stage for an after-vote party.

    Argentina, which invaded the islands in 1982 before its troops were ousted by a British task force after a short but bloody war, maintained its dismissive line on the vote.

    "It's a manoeuvre with no legal value, which has neither been convened nor supervised by the United Nations," said Alicia Castro, Argentina's ambassador to London.

    "We respect their way of life, their identity. We respect that they want to continue being British, but the territory they inhabit is not British," she told Buenos Aires radio station La Red.

    -AFP
     
  17. Yusuf

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    Expected result. And not surprising either. Argentines expected this result and has already denounced the referendum. Clearly the people of the place have no wish to part with the Brits.
     
  18. W.G.Ewald

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    From where?
     
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    Argentina's Fernandez asks Pope to intervene over Falklands | Reuters

     
  20. civfanatic

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    Clever ploy, that referendum. Pakistan could probably hold a similar referendum in POK, and all the Pakjabi settlers would undoubtedly vote to remain under Pakistani rule. :rolleyes:
     

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