F-18 for India ?

[Indrajit]

Better go for SU-35. F18 is too old a platform and americans are unreliable. More so we have seen F16's performance vis-a-vis a vintage Mig21! SU35 has latest avionics which can give competition to F22 in a dogfight.

Su35? The way everyone seems to moan about “if we had the Rafale....” I’m wondering whether the 300 something Su 30mki’s are about as useful as Hijras clapping away at traffic signals....

 

[smestarz]

Su-30 MKI on their own (and we have not upgraded them since we purchaed them) are good enough to take down F-16 on their own, So, if you are comparing to F-16 as Hijras, well surely Su-30 MKI and Su-35 are more capable than the Hijras (F-16 block 52) with an outdated MiG-21 was able to shoot down in WVR combat.

Su35? The way everyone seems to moan about “if we had the Rafale....” I’m wondering whether the 300 something Su 30mki’s are about as useful as Hijras clapping away at traffic signals....

 

[Games Goblin]

US Having tough time keeping F-18s combat ready

62 % Of F-18 Hornets Unfit To Fly, Up To 74% In Marines

https://breakingdefense.com/2017/02/62-of-f-18-hornets-unfit-to-fly-dod-hill-focus-on-readiness/

 

[Gessler]

Better go for SU-35. F18 is too old a platform and americans are unreliable. More so we have seen F16's performance vis-a-vis a vintage Mig21! SU35 has latest avionics which can give competition to F22 in a dogfight.

Su-35 doesn't give you anything an upgraded Super-MKI can't.

 

[no smoking]

The best way to neutralize China is to make it overspend on defense. India can help do this by ramping its own defense spending (smart and well accounted for defense programs of course). The more India (plus US, Japan, SoKor, Australia, ASEAN) spends the more China will try to respond resulting in overspending. Note that the good about checking China is that it is up against a lot of heavy weight powers. So a coordinated defense ramp up will make China go crazy. It has no choice but to catch up.

This strategy is better and will turn out cheaper than actually going to war with China (which will only happen if China percieves India is weak).

Unfortunately, that is not the reality. China doesn't worry about India, Korea, Japan, Australia, there is only one power in their mind: America. If they can match US power in west Pacific, then the rest won't be a big problem. If they can't, the rest will be a question beyond their calculation.
So, the real problem is how much forces that US can deploy in this side of world. Last time, their Asia pivot policy requires 60% of military forces, it turns out to be unrealistic: they are a global power, concentrating so much power in one region for over years will risk losing her control of other region. So, now her policy is asking her allies to do more, these countries responses are: you first. So, we see that all Asian countries are keeping quiet among the China-US dispute in SCS: no local country wants to patrol SCS with US navy side by side. Instead, they start to improve their relationship with Beijing.
India's response is even more obvious: she will stay in IOC to resist the "Chinese threat". The last thing India wants is to get Chinese attention focusing on her alone because they know: Americans will not hesitate to sacrifice last Indian in fighting Chinese.

 

[mayfair]

Unfortunately, that is not the reality. China doesn't worry about India, Korea, Japan, Australia, there is only one power in their mind: America.

Not quite. They are very much worried about Japan, to obsessive levels. And it's not just the politicos. It's their people as well.

Painful memories do not fade away so easily.

They are also wary about Russia.

Basically they are worried about anyone who has the ability to stand upto them or surpass them with strength.

 

[Meghavan]

A project like mwf need atleast 7-8 billion atleast ,you can add 12-13 further for amca
All in all 22-25 billion dollars for these 2 projects

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I highly doubt any nationcan develop a true 5th gen fighter with just 12 billions.

 

[vayuu1]

I highly doubt any nationcan develop a true 5th gen fighter with just 12 billions.

12 billion is not a just amount besides its a rough estimate, as you can pump more and more money don't forget lots of techs have already been developed

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[vayuu1]

Or are on the verge of being developed

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[asianobserve]

US Having tough time keeping F-18s combat ready

62 % Of F-18 Hornets Unfit To Fly, Up To 74% In Marines

https://breakingdefense.com/2017/02/62-of-f-18-hornets-unfit-to-fly-dod-hill-focus-on-readiness/

US Marines are still using older legacy Hornets, F/A 18 C/Ds.

 

[asianobserve]

Unfortunately, that is not the reality. China doesn't worry about India, Korea, Japan, Australia, there is only one power in their mind: America. If they can match US power in west Pacific, then the rest won't be a big problem. If they can't, the rest will be a question beyond their calculation.
So, the real problem is how much forces that US can deploy in this side of world. Last time, their Asia pivot policy requires 60% of military forces, it turns out to be unrealistic: they are a global power, concentrating so much power in one region for over years will risk losing her control of other region. So, now her policy is asking her allies to do more, these countries responses are: you first. So, we see that all Asian countries are keeping quiet among the China-US dispute in SCS: no local country wants to patrol SCS with US navy side by side. Instead, they start to improve their relationship with Beijing.
India's response is even more obvious: she will stay in IOC to resist the "Chinese threat". The last thing India wants is to get Chinese attention focusing on her alone because they know: Americans will not hesitate to sacrifice last Indian in fighting Chinese.

Of course not. Australia, Japan and othe US Pacific allies will not fight China alone. They will be part of a combined force with US forces as the backbone. So stronger Australian and Japanese forces is a huge multiplier effect against China. And China knows it.

 

[Meghavan]

I highly doubt any nationcan develop a true 5th gen fighter with just 12 billions.

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[WolfPack86]

F 18 Advance Super Hornet

 

[WolfPack86]

F 18 Advance Super Hornet

 

[WolfPack86]

F 18 Advance Super Hornet

 

[WolfPack86]

F 18 Advance Super Hornet

 

[Games Goblin]

I just thought of something - The US aircraft carriers use catapult launch systems right? Our carrier uses the jump ramp system. Is the F/A-18 able to take off from a ramp?

 

[vampyrbladez]

I just thought of something - The US aircraft carriers use catapult launch systems right? Our carrier uses the jump ramp system. Is the F/A-18 able to take off from a ramp?

Yup, all naval fighters can provided they have wide enough wings for lift. However this makes all naval fighters more sluggish than air force ones as transonic acceleration decreases due to boundary flow layer drag because of wider wings.

 

[Gessler]

I just thought of something - The US aircraft carriers use catapult launch systems right? Our carrier uses the jump ramp system. Is the F/A-18 able to take off from a ramp?

Yes it can. Boeing simulated it. Dassault did the same with Rafale-M. In fact, as per Grumman, even E-2 Hawkeye can operate from STOBAR carrier.

But there is a big problem - there will be a huge payload penalty when these planes operate from ski-jumps instead of Catapults.

 

[Games Goblin]

Yes it can. Boeing simulated it. Dassault did the same with Rafale-M. In fact, as per Grumman, even E-2 Hawkeye can operate from STOBAR carrier.

But there is a big problem - there will be a huge payload penalty when these planes operate from ski-jumps instead of Catapults.

Payload is a problem - but can the plane can take off with minimal fuel + full weapon loadout and afterwards fill up via mid-air refuelling?