Electricity import from India a priority for Nawaz

pmaitra

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With useless comments from this Paki, without any references or proof whatsoever, it was always going to be a shit fest.
Want a clean sophisticated forum, make it free from Pakroaches.:laugh:
Yes, I agree we need a sophisticated forum, and you can help from your side by not constantly using the "pig" smiley.
 

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Yes, I agree we need a sophisticated forum, and you can help from your side by not constantly using the "pig" smiley.
I don't use it unless I am forced to. Anyways I quit this forum for good as I have other venues to look around.
Adios. :thumb:
 

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Too much abusive language.

Thread closed.

PM Staff if you want to re-open.
 

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Tajikistan has offered upto 1000mw.
Deal with iran is already done for 1000mw by zardari.

GOP should put off money into PSO to have continue supply to wapda,

Because the capacity installed is 7000mw more than the demand
These are mere figures.

The actual figure that would decide how much power has to be bought from foreign nations is the OVERALL SHORTAGE.

What is the Overall Shortage?
 

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short fall in india is more than 20000mw compared to only 4500mw in pakistan.

India is yet to see a time like pakistan had between 80's to 2005-06 when loadshedding was considered an alien word in pakistan.
I am afraid that is where you are wrong.

I live in Calcutta and we used to have chronic load shedding.

For the past 10 years, we have had no load shedding.

Further Gujarat is a power surplus State.
 

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Lets stick to the Electricity, let it be reactor or cycle dynamo ..

Anythings else will be deleted, Thread Open, Resume posting..
 

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These are mere figures.

The actual figure that would decide how much power has to be bought from foreign nations is the OVERALL SHORTAGE.

What is the Overall Shortage?
the overall shortage at the moment is 5500mw.

We wanted to import electricity from tajikistan because of it being the cheapest offer.but because of uzbekistan pakistan backed off.
we already has struck a deal with iran for 1000mw import and already import around 50mw from s smaller city close to the iranian border.
 

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yesterday in capital talk PMLN expert said.

we will reduce loadshedding by few hours within 3 months.but it will take 4 years to bring pakistan to the 2000 era of no loadshedding in major cities and 1-2h loadshedding rural areas
 

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the overall shortage at the moment is 5500mw.

We wanted to import electricity from tajikistan because of it being the cheapest offer.but because of uzbekistan pakistan backed off.
we already has struck a deal with iran for 1000mw import and already import around 50mw from s smaller city close to the iranian border.

cheapest in what sense..?? importing from tajiks would mean paying transit price, building infra in some of the most hostile places on earth...u should factor that into account when saying ''cheap''...!!
 

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Pakistan's acute energy crisis is posing a serious predicament for its feeble economy and volatile national security environment. The country's energy problems are deep and complex, being rooted more in shortages of governance and political will than of pure supply. This stems from the absence of a comprehensive and integrated energy strategy, resulting in interagency turf wars and a lack of coordination, insufficient revenue to support energy generation and infrastructure, owing to low liquidity in Pakistan's struggling economy and high rates of tax default, and the leadership's unwillingness to implement politically unpopular changes to address the situation.

Resolving Pakistan's energy crisis will thus require political will, additional funding, and new power-generation sources. As the country lacks significant internal sources of revenue, opportunities exist for international donors to finance its energy recovery. indigenous energy solutions should not simply be discarded, and the Pakistani government should explore the Thar coalfields and alternative energy sources, among other options.

Pakistan should consolidate its many energy-related institutions into a single ministry. This will bring some urgently needed order and efficiency to its dysfunctional energy sector.

A short-term fix that could bring immediate relief is to request a new loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). However, because the IMF would probably impose politically delicate conditions, Islamabad is unlikely to make such a request

Tax reform is imperative and should be designed to provide Islamabad with more revenue to address the energy crisis.

Pakistan can initially better diversify its energy mix by importing clean coal, which is often cheaper than imported oil and gas.

Pakistan will not be able to implement the reforms needed to resolve its energy crisis unless Pakistani leaders genuinely desire to serve the interests of their country.
 
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yesterday in capital talk PMLN expert said.

we will reduce loadshedding by few hours within 3 months.but it will take 4 years to bring pakistan to the 2000 era of no loadshedding in major cities and 1-2h loadshedding rural areas
Everything is possible provided the logical consequences of its ostrich policies. Wish you all the luck!
 

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I invite you to come and live in Tamil Nadu
yusuf, problem is not the production,

but distribution,

bizelee chori,

No funds with state electricity board

old and non maintained cables and transformers
 

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$15 billion Saudi bailout likely - Dawn.COM News

ISLAMABAD, May 22: With an 'amiable' government in place, Saudi Arabia is expected to extend a bailout package of about $15 billion to Pakistan's highly indebted energy sector by supplying crude and furnace oil on deferred payment to enable it to resolve the chronic circular debt issue.

A senior government official said the Saudis had been taking reasonable interest in helping out the incoming PML-N government led by Nawaz Sharif.

They had extended a similar special package to Pakistan soon after it went nuclear in 1998 and faced international economic sanctions.

Between 1998 and 2002, Pakistan received $3.5 billion (Rs190 billion at the exchange rate at that time) worth of oil from Saudi Arabia on deferred payment, a major part of which was converted into grant.

According to the official, as soon as the PML-N emerged as the majority party after the May 11 elections, the Saudi ambassador in Islamabad sought a briefing on the country's oil requirements from the foreign ministry before calling on prime minister-designate Nawaz Sharif in Raiwind, Lahore.

He was immediately provided a position paper, the official said.

Pakistan expects about 100,000 barrels of crude oil and about 15,000 tons of furnace oil per day from Saudi Arabia on deferred payment for three years. The amount involved works out at about $12-15bn.

The facility can be utilised to reduce loadshedding in the short term and provide an opportunity in the medium term to restructure the power sector by minimising subsidies, eliminating circular debt, ensuring recovery from the public sector and reducing system losses to bring it to a self-sustainable level.

"During the package period, the PML-N government can resolve the electricity crisis and develop hydropower projects through a combination of public and private investments and bagasse-based power production by the sugar industry," he said.

He said the arrangement for oil supplies on deferred payments could be further discussed during Mr Sharif's first visit to Saudi Arabia soon after assuming the office of prime minister early next month.

Pakistan's total crude oil import is about 400,000 barrels per day and 30,000 tons of furnace oil. Its total oil import bill stands at about $15bn per annum.

The official said a request for 100,000 barrels of oil and 15,000 tons per day of furnace oil had already been passed on through the Pakistan-Saudi Arabia Joint Ministerial Commission.

A meeting of the commission could be convened soon after the new government assumed charge, an official said.

The Saudi rulers had not taken any interest in the issue earlier ostensibly because of the chill in their relationship with the PPP government.

Large political delegations taken to Saudi Arabia by the PPP government were cold-shouldered, an official said, adding that warming up of diplomatic relations with Iran and the UAE and cancellation of hunting facilities for Saudi royals had also annoyed the kingdom.

The official said the breathing space provided by the likely Saudi package could also be used for renegotiating gas price with Iran for the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline to bring it down to a sustainable level.

Under the gas sales and purchase price agreement, any party may seek revision of the rates in view of the cost of alternative import options one year ahead of the first gas flows scheduled to take place in December 2014.

The official ruled out any possibility that the Saudi oil package could be used to persuade Pakistan to stay away from the Iranian gas import. He said the project had reached an advanced stage and involved international agreements and, therefore, backtracking was no option, but the development could give leverage to Pakistan to secure lower gas prices.
 

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