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China Microblogs Block Chinese Word for 'Egypt'

China's microblogs have blocked searches for the word "Egypt," a sign that the Chinese government is trying to limit public knowledge of the political unrest occurring in the Middle East. The blocking appeared to begin over the weekend on the Chinese Twitter-like services operated by Sina, Tencent and Sohu. Queries using the Chinese word for "Egypt" brought no results. "In accordance with the relevant laws, regulations and policies, the search result did not display," said the response on the Sina microblogging site.

The English word for "Egypt," however, is still searchable across the sites.

News of the antigovernment protests in Egypt has made its way to Chinese media outlets, although coverage has been limited to pictures and short articles with little mention of what brought about the political unrest. Protesters in Egypt have taken to the streets demanding the end to the rule of President Hosni Mubarak, who has led the country since 1981.

The Egyptian government has responded by shutting down the Internet in the country, a move that was seen as way to prevent the protesters from organizing.

China ordered similar measures in 2009 when deadly rioting erupted in the country's western Xinjiang region. The government shut down the Internet across the region to halt the spread of the riots. Both Twitter and Facebook were also blocked, and have continued to be inaccessible from China. The county began restoring full Internet service in the region almost six month later after the rioting began.

The content on China's microblogs have also been a target for the state censors. The country routinely blocks sites and removes content deemed politically sensitive from the Web. China has 63 million microblog users, according to the China Internet Network Information Center.
 

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Chinse censors are really paranoid

I am blocking interviews of THEIR OWN head of state, like the Fareed Zakaria interview or even blocking any instances of protests even in third countries is just the limit.

Well either they are very paranoid, or the situation in China is so unstable tha they have to go to such extreme measures.
 

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Egypt on boil, but India won't rush in

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/egypt-on-boil-but-india-wont-rush-in/743705/0

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As India watches with concern the gathering political storm in Egypt and other Arab states, the government will not rush into commenting on the unprecedented and the unpredictable revolt against the ossified order in the Middle East, official sources here say.

The government's current silence on the confrontation between the Arab nation and the ruling regimes in the Middle East does not mean it is unaware of the implications of the tumult for India's growing interests in the region.

India's trade with the 22 countries of the Arab League is currently at the level of about $120 billion and is expected to double within the next five years. Prospects for regional instability have already begun to push oil prices up and close to $100 a barrel.

Both principle and pragmatism, however, have tended to reinforce the current Indian reluctance to inject itself verbally into an explosive situation on the Arab street.

With the exception of its own immediate neighbours whose internal developments directly affect India's national security interests, India has scrupulously respected the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other developing nations.

Conscious of its own strong sensitivities against the meddling by great powers, India would rather avoid the impression of taking sides in the Arab world's internal conflicts.

From the practical perspective too, officials here point out, any Indian comment at this stage — even a banal call for 'restraint from all sides' — is unlikely to make much difference to the situation on the ground.

Washington, which has strong influence in Egypt, is finding it hard to balance its massive political investment in Cairo's 'ancien regime' and its proclaimed preference for democratic change in the Middle East.

Unlike the Bush Administration that embraced the notion of promoting democracy in the Middle East, the Obama Administration has drastically toned down its policy ambitions in the region.

The Obama Administration has been criticised at home for being too timid in its response to the massive street protests against an adversarial regime in Tehran during 2009 and the current unrest against a long-standing ally in Egypt.

South Block is aware of the deep popular empathy for India in the Arab street. At the intellectual level, too, there is considerable admiration in the region for the Indian struggle to sustain a secular and democratic political system under difficult conditions and its recent high economic growth rates.

Unlike the West, which propped up unpopular and authoritarian regimes in the region and is eager to reach out to the Arab street, India is under no pressure to prove its abundant goodwill to the peoples of the Middle East.

Yet, India may no longer have the luxury of an overly cautious diplomatic posture as the political crisis of rare magnitude inflames the Arab world.

As the Arabs turn away from the old ideological slogans and against their own authoritarian governments, India will soon have to recalibrate its diplomacy in the Middle East, where its interests have become deeper and more widespread.
 

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Democracy will prevail in Egypt and across the Middle East


Democracy has been the dominant form of political organization in Canada and other English-speaking countries for so long that we often forget just how historically unusual it is. Until the establishment of Europe's first Parliaments and constitutions, strongman rule was simply part of the human condition. For several billion people on the planet, it still is.

During the 20th century, democracy gradually spread to other parts of the world, including such giants as India and Japan. Toward the end of the century, political freedom came also to much of South America, Indonesia, South Korea, the former Soviet bloc (excluding Belarus and, under Vladimir Putin, Russia itself), and even, fitfully and bloodily, sub-Saharan Africa.

Yet throughout all this, a single corner of the globe stubbornly persisted as a black hole on freedom's map: At the dawn of the 21st century, not a single nation in the 22-member Arab League could be described as a true Western-style democracy.

What explains this anomaly? Arabists emphasize Western colonialism and U.S. support for convenient autocrats (such as Egypt's besieged Hosni Mubarak). But many other parts of the world that are now flourishing democracies were once colonized, too. Moreover, some parts of the Arab world, including Saudi Arabia, were never subject to colonial occupation.

Another explanation revolves around oil — a commodity that tends to enrich and empower the small elite that controls its extraction, without providing much in the way of jobs and upward mobility to the masses. Yet Syria, which has little oil, is just as autocratic as Libya, which has plenty. So that doesn't provide a complete answer either.

Others have focused on the influence of Islam. Unlike Christendom, Islamic civilization has never embraced the doctrine of separation between church and state, nor religious pluralism, nor equality between men and women, nor individualism — all essential components of modern democracy.

And yet, Muslim Indonesia is a democracy; as is (with several asterisks) Muslim Turkey. Even Iran has a strong grass-roots democratic movement, albeit one crushed under the Ayatollahs' jackboots. So it cannot be said that Islam is entirely incompatible with democracy.

Perhaps the only complete explanation is that democracy simply has been alien to Arab political culture for a host of reasons, including those listed above. But that culture is changing — and it is changing fast.

When the history of the Arab democratic revolution is written — whether in a month, a year or a decade — a sacrosanct place will be reserved for Mohammed Bouazizi, the 26-year-old man Tunisian street peddler who immolated himself last month after enduring a litany of abuses from the country's unaccountable bureaucrats and police. His plight symbolized the quiet, simmering sense of imprisonment felt by millions of his countrymen — and his name was on the lips of the protestors who brought down the nation's government. The fuse that he lit has made its way to powder kegs in Algeria, Yemen, Jordan and — most significantly — Egypt, by far the most populous state in the Arab world.

Yet Mr. Bouazizi's tragic, desperate act did not take place in a vacuum. For years, Arabs have been learning that dictatorship — whether under Nasser-cloned nationalists or Saudi-style Wahabbists — is not the only way. They know this from surfing the Internet, and watching al-Jazeera and other satellite television networks, which show them scenes their leaders do not want them to see; scenes such as Iraqis going to the polls after Saddam Hussein had been deposed by George W. Bush's armies in 2003. They also watched the casting out of Lebanon's Syrian occupiers in 2005. These are scenes that make pharaohs shudder.

These new media have been saturated with incendiary coverage of Israel, too, of course. But viewers also have seen the other side of the coin: Hamas turning Gaza into a fundamentalist appendage to Iran, not to mention the corruption of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority. Since 9/11, viewers also have seen al-Qaeda terrorists perpetrate carnage against Muslim civilians far more horrible than any outrage committed by Israelis. This helps explain why Islamists seem to be on the margin of this week's protests: Most ordinary citizens want freedom, not an Arab version of the Taliban.

It is telling that neither the North African protestors nor their autocratic targets are mentioning any of the usual anti-Israeli conspiracy theories in their media war. The Jewish state, long a demagogic obsession in the region, has disappeared from the headlines entirely. This is a sign of a people that finally appears to be taking control of its own destiny, and so no longer needs outsiders to blame.

No one knows how the drama in Egypt — or any other Arab nation — will unfold in the short term. Political revolutions are unpredictable. But in the long run, we all know how this drama will one day end: with the Arab world joining the rest of the globe on the march to democracy. And the images that fill our TV screens today suggest that destination may be closer than many Arabs only recently dared hope.

The hearts of all free people are with the protestors. May their campaign be victorious, short and bloodless.
 

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Ejaz people are saying the intelligence chief will become the new President and gamal mubarak will not succeed his father.No democracy nothing atmost it will be a kleptocracy replacing the old ones
 

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One has to understand the Middle East.

It has always been under autocratic regimes, be they quasi democracy or Sheikdoms.

The clergy has always been a dominating factor.

The rebellion is totally unusual happening (though the military have taken power by overthrowing rulers; but then the military too was an authoritarian organisation)

One cannot predict, given the psyche, how the cat will jump.

It is better to watch and wait.
 

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Chinse censors are really paranoid

I am blocking interviews of THEIR OWN head of state, like the Fareed Zakaria interview or even blocking any instances of protests even in third countries is just the limit.

Well either they are very paranoid, or the situation in China is so unstable tha they have to go to such extreme measures.

Pathetic, simply pathetic, freaking Joke - China is the only so-called superpower that is so afraid of its own people.

That they have to control what they see and read.
Like their population is a bunch wild monkeys being kept in a cage, and slowly being feed thru a small hole in the cage !!

it doesnt matter how many stealth J20's china develops - people still laugh their asses off when they see how freaking scared the CCP are of their own population.
 

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even if there is a regime change in Egypt or else where the main dominating factor will be army....army has ruled Egypt for last 6 decades[Mubarak is a military guy-air force] there will be no difference for either US or India as the main ruler is the same only the throne passes....
 

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One thing to be taken into account was that in Tunisia the military supported the people against the state security apparatus and the presidential guards, on one occasion police snipers were forced off the roof of one of the ministerial headquarters by military helicopters. this was due to the military leadership never being a part of Abidine ben ali's close coterie. In Egypt the case is quite the opposite president Mubarak is himself a former air force man and most of his close friends are still high ranking officers in the military who have gained immensely from Hosni mubarak's reign. i would advise a wait and watch for Egypt.
 

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off-topic but whats the probability that this revolution may reach to our-dore-step in mean to stay about J&K , can there be agitation against government. i mean whats probability that there can be mass agitation government inspired tunsia-egypt revolt

on topic i only fear about muslim-brotherhood geeting power in egypt if present systems falls.the said muslim-brother hood would try to destabilizes neighbouring country and would try to get tis proxy government installed in its neighbouring countries
 

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China Microblogs Block Chinese Word for 'Egypt'

China's microblogs have blocked searches for the word "Egypt," a sign that the Chinese government is trying to limit public knowledge of the political unrest occurring in the Middle East. The blocking appeared to begin over the weekend on the Chinese Twitter-like services operated by Sina, Tencent and Sohu. Queries using the Chinese word for "Egypt" brought no results. "In accordance with the relevant laws, regulations and policies, the search result did not display," said the response on the Sina
I wonder what spin our chinese friends here will give on this development. I am sure they would deny anything like that.
 

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Egypt turmoil: Special AI plane to bring back 300 Indians

New Delhi: India is sending a special commercial flight on Sunday to bring back Indians wanting to return home from Egypt that is in the middle of a political upheaval.

An Air India flight with a capacity to carry 300-odd passengers is being sent to Cairo to enable Indians living in or visiting Egypt to return to India if they desired so, government sources said here.

Some of the 3,600-odd Indians, who live in Egypt that is facing political unrest at present, have expressed their interest in returning home and the flight is arranged based on their request, the source said.

Flight schedules in and out of Egypt have been disrupted in the last couple of days after anti-government protests broke out there seeking the stepping down of President Hosni Mubarak, who has been in power for over three decades now.

Due to the disruption in flights, the Indian government took a decision to send a commercial aircraft to Cairo to ferry Indians back home if they desired so, the sources said, noting that of the 3,600 Indians in Egypt, 2,200 are residents of Cairo.

The chartered flight will leave for Cairo on Sunday and will return late in the night with about 300 passengers, which would include some tourists, businessmen and Indian embassy staff members.

On Saturday, the external affairs ministry issued an advisory asking Indians to avoid all non-essential travel to Egypt. It also noted that its embassy in Cairo was in touch with the Indians living there and they were safe.

Indian Embassy in Cairo has made arrangements to airlift Indian nationals in Egypt wanting to return home in the wake of violent agitation against the Hosni Mubarak regime.

The arrangements are being coordinated by Indian ambassador R Swaminathan, officials said here. They said the embassy officials are in touch with the ministry of external affairs here, which is closely monitoring the situation.

The officials said most of the Indians are PIOs who have settled in Egypt and the government will make arrangements if they wish to return to the country.

The MEA had on Saturday issued a travel advisory asking Indians to avoid non-essential travel to that country.

"The embassy of India in Cairo, is in touch with members of the Indian community, who are reported to be safe. There are about 3600 people of Indian origin (PIO) in Egypt, of which some 2200 are in Cairo.

"In view of the prevailing situation in Egypt, Indian nationals are advised to avoid non-essential travel to Egypt for the present...," the advisory had said.

Indian embassy has also set-up a round-the-clock control room.

At least 100 people have been killed in the clashes and hundreds injured. Around 1,000 protesters have been arrested across the country since the protests broke out five days ago.
 
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http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=31244

Israel Militarily Prepared for a Hostile Regime in Egypt


Despite peace treaty, Israel has maintained ability to fight two-front war

The story goes that an Israeli army chief of general staff once came to his headquarters and announced that he had some good news and some bad news. The bad news was that

Egypt now has top-of-the-line, sophisticated U.S. weaponry.

The good news was "¦ that Egypt has top-of-the-line, sophisticated U.S. weaponry.

American military support – and the spare parts to keep the equipment running -- comes with conditions attached, including that they aren't used against Washington's Israeli ally. Nevertheless, Israel never abandoned its doctrine to maintain forces capable of fighting a two-front war, even if it hadn't faced Egypt on the battlefield for over 37 years and has formally been at peace with it since 1979.

Currently, the Egyptian threat is regarded as low that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has deployed female soldiers to patrol the frontier. The mixed male-female Caracal battalion, a crack combat unit, has proven to be efficient in border patrol, but even its commander has acknowledged his soldiers wouldn't be there in any conventional war setting.

At army headquarters in Tel Aviv, lights burned bright over the weekend as Defense Minister Ehud Barak convened top commanders and intelligence officer to assess the possible scenarios of the Egyptian upheaval.

Sunday morning, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told his Cabinet he was "anxiously monitoring" events in Egypt. "Our efforts are designed to continue and maintain stability and security in our region. I remind you that the peace between Israel and Egypt has endured for over three decades and our goal is to ensure that these relations continue."

Still, 30 years of "cold peace" have never eliminated the deep-rooted insecurities and mutual distrust between the Israeli and Egyptian armed forces. While the peace treaty has given the IDF relief in building its battle order, the military has never taken its eye off its southern neighbor and war plans still call for a hefty reserve force to be set aside for dealing with Egypt, no matter where a confrontation may break out.

Since coming under the U.S. orbit in the wake of the 1979 peace treaty with Israel brokered by Washington, Egypt has received $1.3 billion in annual U.S. military aid. Egypt's army launched an ambitious modernization plan, cutting its personnel from about 600,000 to 340,000 to build a mobile and efficient force.

Egypt's most impressive achievement has been its air force, which the Military Balance published by the Institute for National Security Studies, describes as "the most far-reaching transformation of any air arm in the Middle East." Egypt has about 200 advanced American F-16s and some two dozen French Mirage 2000 interceptors. It also has 100 attack helicopters, compared with just 80 in Israel, according to the Center for Strategic International Studies.

Furthermore, Egypt has some 500 multiple rocket launchers (twice the number as Israel) and nearly half of its 3,100 tanks are Western, including nearly 1,000 M1s. The Egyptian Navy is the most robust in the eastern Mediterranean basin, with 10 frigates, four submarines and 23 missile boats.

Egypt has had surface-to-surface missile since the early 1970s and its Scud rockets reportedly are capable of reaching anywhere in Israel.

Egypt had in the past generation been relegated to a very marginal actor in the IDF threat assessment. But slowly, Egypt has been moving front and center and its increasingly sophisticated and Western military today represents, on paper, the biggest conventional military danger to the IDF.

Israeli military officers have spoken privately about the concern over the aggressive character of the Egyptian buildup. Until now, the IDF, too, has been caught in a double bind. It sees the Egyptian army preparing to fight, yet is hesitant to call Egypt an enemy out of fear of turning it into one.

Nevertheless, watching Egypt spend $1.3 billion on weapons every year, even if IDF intelligence believed Cairo had no clear interest in war with Israel, didn't pass quietly; particularly after annual military exercises included simulated crossings of the Suez Canal and fighting against an enemy which fit the profile of Israel.

Today, the IDF holds two low-readiness armored divisions opposite Sinai. But IDF contingency plans call for Israel to hold back another three divisions from another front to be shifted against Egyptian forces, should they move on Israel, according to Jane's Intelligence Review.

Ironically, Egypt's modernization program has presented a scenario never faced by Israel before with its half indigenous/half U.S.-made weaponry possibly squaring off against similar Western weapons held by Egypt.

Alex Fischman, long-time military analyst for Yediot Ahronot, the nation's largest daily, warned that now was the time for Israel to make "political and security modifications." These included creating additional forces for Israel's Southern Command.

The defense establishment in Israel has long spoken of the end of the Mubarak era -- after all, he is 83 and no one lives forever. But the intelligence was caught off guard by the contagion effect of popular uprising across North Africa. Yediot Ahronot quoted an unnamed senior Mossad official saying as recent at January 6 that they did not foresee any immediate threat to the ruling elite in Egypt.

Just like the Israeli intelligence didn't foresee the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979, Hamas takeover in Gaza in 2007 or the serious deterioration of the strategic ties with Turkey in past two years, no one saw this coming either.

But in terms of long-range strategic planning, ironically, it won't have too much of a serious impact on Israel's battle order or defense doctrine. While the ability of the Egyptian military to pose a threat to Israel grew, the peace treaty kept the probability of war breaking out low. This is bound to undergo a rethink now. The pace of a change in intention can be swift.

Eli Shaked, a former Israeli ambassador to Egypt, said he didn't believe the peace treaty would be harmed if associates of Mubarak inherit the regime. But this was definitely not the case if other scenarios developed, he said.

"The problems is where one of the opposition groups, whether it's the Muslim Brotherhood or the radical Islamists or "¦ the non-religious [opposition] parties, then I think that there will no longer be any commitments whatsoever from their side to this special ties between Egypt and the West, the U.S. and Israel," Shaked told The Media Line. "Then I see a danger to the peace treaty with Israel."

He added that U.S. demands for democratic free elections in Egypt would bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power and was "a very serious American mistake."

The entry of Egyptian forces into the demilitarized Sinai is a violating of the peace agreement. But Israel is flexible with Egypt when it comes to bending the rules of the treat. It had allowed a full brigade to deploy along the border in northern Sinai to prevent smuggling. And it would likely allow more forces in to put down growing discontent among the Bedouin.

Shaked, who served in Cairo from 2003-2005, recalled his jealously over the warm relations he saw between Israel and Egyptian military commanders.

"They treated each other like officers and gentlemen, quite unlike the Egyptian diplomacy. As a diplomat, I envied the officers who had found a way to cooperate and to discuss issues and problems in the most gentlemen-like way," Shaked said. "The diplomats I knew from the Egyptian side, they were always talking about conflict and struggle and war."

In 1980, Israel received F-16 jets two years earlier than expected after the jets built for the Shah of Iran were diverted after Islamic fundamentalist overthrew him and abruptly ended the close alliance between Israel and Iran. For intelligence officers, it was a lesson never to be forgotten; that the distance between a close ally and a fundamental Islamic regime is just so short.
 

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The only solution for Egypt is to have people that belong to middle class, rule it. Hosni Mubarak had his time and now its up. The only worry that we should be looking out for is that we should not have an islamist government there. Not only would it cause further radicalization and attacks on local people with an air of absolutism, but also be a problem with a greater picture over Asia. The people of both Egypt and Tunisia must realize that this wasn't a religious struggle but a popular struggle where the common man was not given his economic and social rights of living a good and affordable life with a decent job to feed his family.

This has to be a revolution of the kind that we would have expected out of our heroes like Bhagat Singh, Savarkar and Subhash Chandra Bose.

Colonial or not, they must not just be replacing the government with a more populist government but also someone who can manage the fine line between sanity and pandering to the sentiments of mullas. The last thing any of us would want is to have an Iran like government there.
 

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Israel Militarily Prepared for a Hostile Regime in Egypt. that the distance between a close ally and a fundamental Islamic regime is just so short.
This is the only potential element that will cause tension. Egyptian and Tunisian people must first focus on developing a stable people-based government in their countries and sustain a good growth rate for more prosperity. They have no enemy right now and there is absolutely no need to make Israel and enemy since Egypt has a peaceful border with Israel.

A Khomeini style revolution would be nuisance.
 

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This is the only potential element that will cause tension. Egyptian and Tunisian people must first focus on developing a stable people-based government in their countries and sustain a good growth rate for more prosperity. They have no enemy right now and there is absolutely no need to make Israel and enemy since Egypt has a peaceful border with Israel.

A Khomeini style revolution would be nuisance.
well....i doubt there will be any major change T22....Mubarak is down but he still holds the card unlike in Tunisia the military still supports him....and even if military revolts then the military will install its own men there just like they have been doing since last 5-6 decades....
so a people based govt is highly unlikely in any arab states
 

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Political upheavals are not new to Egypt,they have their share,but there is a fundamental difference now that adds a new texture to the political expression being voiced on the streets of Egypt,people have taken to the streets in unprecedented numbers,without the bulwark of an organized opposition or have received active aide from any national institution(including the army)

All regimes,democratic or despotic require an element of legitimacy to subsist,no regimes can survive without one,however it is expressed in different ways,while a democracy people delegitimatize an incumbent regime by voting it out of power,in autocratic countries,like in Egypt,the process of delegitimizing happens on the streets,so long as the people dont take to the streets and shutdown the day to day life ,it was commonly assume that a regimes enjoys a modicum of legitimacy,even if its merely an implied legitimacy.Mubarak has lost that legitimacy which for most tyrants represents the last shred of support and tolerance from the populace to the regime,fear and obedience.

Mubarak's regime neither instills fear not attracts obedience from the masses anymore,a clear sign in the parlance of street politics that the regime has no measure of legitimacy.The people on the streets are unlikely to leave until they know that power to elect and form government has been restored to the masses,no institution in Egypt,the army or the elites of the ruling political class are in a position to challenge this new reality.
 

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double post...................
 
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