Egypt considering violating peace treaty with Israel

[W.G.Ewald]

Egypt considering violating peace treaty with Israel

Egypt's Islamist President Mohammed Morsi is studying the possibility of keeping tanks in the Sinai Peninsula on a permanent basis, according to a senior Egyptian military official who spoke to WND.

World News Daily may not be a reliable source...

 

[maomao]

It does not matter if the source is reliable or not......MB has gained a lot and it is turning Egypt into another islamic shithole.....it's only a matter of time when all hell breaks lose in ME!

 

[ani82v]

Considering the political inclination of Morsi, it was only a matter of time.
Be ready for more posturing like this, but at the same time, they cannot behave like Iran as well because Israel is just next to the border.

 

[sob]

Most of the tanks in Egyptian army are the M1 Abrahams from the US. Ow wold the US react to the. Could we see withholding of spares

 

[pack leader]

Egypt considering violating peace treaty with Israel


World News Daily may not be a reliable source...

with only a week worth off tank and artillery ammo (imported from America )
and no jdam or bvr missile Egypt can only talk
soon they will starve food prices are on the rise and India and china can out pay them

 

[sob]

@pack leader : What is your assessment of the morale of the Egyptian Armed forces after the sacking of their Chief.

I am under the impression that there is no love lost between the army and the MB.

 

[sob]

It seems Egypt has moved tanks into Sinai, in areas which they were not supposed to cross as per treaty with Israel.
Egypt Fully Remilitarizing Sinai - with U.S. Help | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Most of the tanks in Egyptian army are the M1 Abrahams from the US. Ow wold the US react to the. Could we see withholding of spares

I need to confirm about the M1 Abrams. Saudi has them, but I thought Egyptian army was equipped with Russian tanks.

 

[sob]

I need to confirm about the M1 Abrams. Saudi has them, but I thought Egyptian army was equipped with Russian tanks.

Bill, as per Wiki they have around 1100 M1 Abrams and it seems most were assembled in Egypt.
Equipment of the modern Egyptian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Bill, as per Wiki they have around 1100 M1 Abrams and it seems most were assembled in Egypt.
Equipment of the modern Egyptian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I had no idea. Meanwhile, there is this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/w...egypt-to-remove-tanks-from-sinai.html?_r=1&hp

Israel is "troubled" by the entry of Egyptian tanks into the northern Sinai Peninsula without coordination with Israel, a violation of the terms of the 33-year-old peace treaty between the two countries, and has asked Egypt to withdraw them, an Israeli government official said Tuesday. The Israeli request was conveyed within the last few days, the official said, adding that it was likely that the Obama administration had made a similar approach to Cairo.

The Israeli official was speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the fragility of Israel's relations with Egypt, already strained by the recent upheavals there. The overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak last year stripped Israel of a trusted regional ally.

The reported request from Israel elicited contradictory reactions from Egypt. A spokesman for the Egyptian president, Mohamed Morsi, denied receiving any complaints from Israel. Citing an unidentified military source, Al Ahram, the flagship state-run newspaper, dismissed the matter as a fabrication of the Israeli news media and said that the move had been fully coordinated with the Israeli military.

The dispute over the tanks' entry into Sinai earlier this month appeared to be part of a delicate balancing act as Egypt's new leadership, which is interested in changing the terms of the military aspects of the treaty, tests Israel's limits. For its part, Israel seeks to encourage Egypt's efforts to restore order in the increasingly chaotic Sinai Peninsula but without posing a threat to its own security.

With Egyptian forces in Sinai strictly limited by the military appendix of the peace treaty, the vast desert area has until now served as a demilitarized buffer zone. But Egypt has long chafed at the restrictions, contending that restoring security in Sinai, which is a joint Israeli-Egyptian interest after all, requires additional forces and heavier weaponry.

"It is clear to everyone that the Egyptians — whether they succeed in dealing with the terror in Sinai or don't — at some point are going to ask to open the military appendix," Alex Fishman, a military affairs analyst, wrote Tuesday in Yediot Aharonot, a popular newspaper. "The meaning of this is that the demilitarization of Sinai will be eroded, which is one of the most important anchors of the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt."

 

[Yusuf]

Hahahhaa. American have a tendency of picking the wrong sides. Now a "democratic" government in Egypt showing all the signs of being anything but friendly. Enjoy the "Arab Spring".

It's not too late in Syria.

 

[ashdoc]

arab spring is turning islamic . maybe the earlier govts were better

 

[Rahul92]

In the name of war i hope Israel can snatch Suez canal and that fertile Nile region

 

[sob]

Under Hosni Mubarak, both Egypt and Israel had a good working relationship. Egyptian forces had kept the Palestinian groups on a tight leash and had sealed the border with Israel. However in the recent chaos in Egypt, it seems that the Sinai area has become a hot bed of militant activities.

Egyptian sources believe that part of Al Qaeda cell may be operating in this restive region along with other Palestinian Groups.

The Egyptian forces have come under attack from militants and there are unconfirmed news item in Egyptian media that the recent Sinai mopping up by the Army has been done at the request of Israel.

http://thedailynewsegypt.com/2012/08/18/in-sinai-arrests-trials-and-attacks-continue/

 

[sob]

There are media reports which claim that Israel is in the loop, with regards to the Egyptian troop reinforcements in Sinai, and has agreed to it.

Egypt: arrests as Mursi promises stability in Sinai | euronews, world news

The Egyptian President Mohammed Mursi has promised people in Sinai that stability will be restored to the tense border region with Gaza and Israel.
He was paying his second visit to the area since last weekend's killing of 16 Egyptian border guards.

Troops have been massing in the area to contain Islamist militants who are suspected of carrying out the attack.Israel has agreed to the Egyptian troop reinforcements close to its border.

 

[sob]

The Tunnel industry between Gaza and Egypt.

BBC News - Gaza tunnel trade squeezed by Egypt 'crackdown'

The tunnel industry may be underground but there is nothing secret about it. It is completely out in the open.There are thought to be more than 1,000 tunnels stretching along the border, most of them covered by shabby white tents.

5 August when 16 Egyptian policemen were killed in an attack by militants in the Sinai peninsula close to Egypt's border with Israel and Gaza.Egypt and Israel blamed Islamic extremists and suggested some of them might have come through the tunnels from Gaza.Egypt's army launched a counter-offensive killing a number of militants in the Sinai.

But the other response of the new Egyptian government was to threaten to shut down the huge network of smuggling tunnels that cross into the Palestinian territory.At least to some extent, it seems that has happened, although it is not clear how many - if any - tunnels have actually been destroyed.

"The trade volume between Gaza and Egypt through the tunnels is up to $700m a year," says Omar Shabban, an economist with the Gaza-based think tank Palthink.

Mr Shabban says more than 10,000 people are employed working in the tunnels. He says what he calls a "black economy" has created a handful of millionaires, some with close ties to Hamas.

"There are over 1,200 tunnels, they smuggle cars and vehicles, they smuggle more than 500,000 litres of fuel every day, more than 300,000 packets of cigarettes every day - it's huge."

 

[pack leader]

arab spring is turning islamic . maybe the earlier govts were better

i don't blame America they had no choice Mubarak was old and politically weak
you cant stop history the Russians will learn the same in Syria
frankly Egypt is weak and not a major threat
they have a large advanced armor core and air force but both are under armed (monkey model trash ) and under trained

 

[asianobserve]

Hahahhaa. American have a tendency of picking the wrong sides. Now a "democratic" government in Egypt showing all the signs of being anything but friendly. Enjoy the "Arab Spring".

It's not too late in Syria.

What makes you think that the current Egyptian government will not bow to Amreeka? For all I know this repositioning of armored force may genuinely be to forestall the so far unchecked rise of a more radical Islamic factions in the Sinai region, which is not only a threat to the more secular military but even to the current mildly Islamic regime (who no doubt cut a deal with Washington to rise to power).

 

[sob]

There is a saying today's radicals are tomorrow's moderates. Same is the case with Morsi.

 

[sob]

Meanwhile Morsi has tried to assure that Egypt would honour all international treaties. This seems to be aimed at Israel and the US, wrt the Camp David Agreement.

Meantime the Sinai operations continue.

BBC News - Egypt troops step up campaign against Sinai militants

Egyptian security forces have killed 11 militants since launching an offensive in the Sinai peninsula earlier this month, the defence ministry has said.

On Monday, Egyptian President Mohammed Mursi stressed that his country was committed to all international treaties and, without naming Israel, said no other states should worry about its actions in Sinai."Egypt is practising its very normal role on its soil and does not threaten anyone and there should not be any kind of international or regional concerns at all from the presence of Egyptian security forces," he said