Dragon's frostbite

[t_co]

The point that should be remembered is that the Dalai Lama's people can cause problems.

Nukes can cause problems if only there is war.

Right now, Pakistan has no money to even keep their electricity going, let alone think of embarking on a war!

China can accelerate anything they want, but then it is for the Tibetans to accept the person as the Dalai Lama.

The Chinese appointed Panchen Lama is only recognised by the Han and not the Tibetans.

There lies the nub.

If you are meaning by ' many untraceable ways to accelerate the Dalai Lama's reincarnation process.' is the assassination by the Chinese of the present Dalai Lama, the only acceleration the Chinese would have achieved is the uprising against the Han in Tibet!

As far as given the Maoist heavy weaponry, if the Indian public gets aroused, then all those weaponry will come to nought. Already, there is a huge ground swell after the Maoist killings of the Congress leaders in Chattisgarh! The so called intellectuals supporters of Maoista, are all running for cover, including that oaf Swami Agniban or whatever that bloke's name is! I saw him on TV pathetically bleating like a sheep being taken for slaughter!

Ray, I think you're overestimating the psychological aspect here. Even if 20,000 Tibetans rise up, so what? China can simply shut off the telephone and internet lines and give the orders 'weapons free' and 'anything that flies to hit anything that moves', and then solve the problem once and for all.

Hard power is everything here, and the Tibetans have none of it.

As for the Pakistanis, they are in the equation because if India uses that overfed shepherd boy to try and start shit, China can simply escalate on India until India has to respond militarily, and then India would face a 2-front war against nuclear powers. Again, hard power is everything.

And finally, for the Naxals, the same applies - sure, the Dalai Lama can stir at the Tibetans' heartstrings, but all that will make them do is become cannon fodder in the face of real weapons and trained soldiers. China can make sure that the Naxals cause huge amounts of damage before they burn out - think wrecked power plants, assaults on petrochemical and industrial sites, hacking of India's financial infrastructure, etc. - all backed by the firepower of a small army.

What can the Tibetans do? Bleed on us? You drastically overestimate the sympathy Chinese decisionmakers hold for the lives of separatists. In their eyes, those lives are forfeit. The only thing that might sway them is economic sanctions, but honestly, which major economy will give up 1.3 billion consumers and workers for 3 million yak herders?

 

[t_co]

I will note that when a Tibetan burns himself to death or gets locked away for sympathizing with the Dalai Lama, most Chinese could care less. Chinese popular sympathy for Tibetan separatists is probably ranked somewhere between Chinese concerns for animal rights and English football.

To the people burning themselves because the PAP sits on their faces all day long: we honestly don't care, it's our land and until you credibly threaten to kill us, we're not going away.

 

[Ray]

Ray, I think you're overestimating the psychological aspect here. Even if 20,000 Tibetans rise up, so what? China can simply shut off the telephone and internet lines and give the orders 'weapons free' and 'anything that flies to hit anything that moves', and then solve the problem once and for all.

Hard power is everything here, and the Tibetans have none of it.

As for the Pakistanis, they are in the equation because if India uses that overfed shepherd boy to try and start shit, China can simply escalate on India until India has to respond militarily, and then India would face a 2-front war against nuclear powers. Again, hard power is everything.

And finally, for the Naxals, the same applies - sure, the Dalai Lama can stir at the Tibetans' heartstrings, but all that will make them do is become cannon fodder in the face of real weapons and trained soldiers. China can make sure that the Naxals cause huge amounts of damage before they burn out - think wrecked power plants, assaults on petrochemical and industrial sites, hacking of India's financial infrastructure, etc. - all backed by the firepower of a small army.

What can the Tibetans do? Bleed on us? You drastically overestimate the sympathy Chinese decisionmakers hold for the lives of separatists. In their eyes, those lives are forfeit. The only thing that might sway them is economic sanctions, but honestly, which major economy will give up 1.3 billion consumers and workers for 3 million yak herders?

I don't think that it would be correct of you to assume that China will ever give an 'weapons free' order to undertake a massacre of the Tibetans.

The reason is simple. China is yearning desperately to be taken by the international community that it is a responsible nation that is a legitimate heir to its superpower status and is a leading power in the world, about to overtake the US as the real leader.

Massacre of Tibetans will shock and revolt the world and China will lose its credibility as a responsible power.

China cannot afford that ignominy and lose the pedestal they have gained so far!

China can do what it wants to escalate and have a war with India. India is ready in case you are not aware, and that includes a two front war. However, currently, it will not be a two front war, but a one front war, for the simple reason that Pakistan is in no position to sustain a war, it war reserves are low and its finances cannot even sustain for one week war. One may take Pakistanis to be muddle headed poofs, but they are also very astute in the game of self preservation.

It is easy to talk of nuclear war, but those who have to press the button are very wary of the idea, including China. It is glib drawing room topic for the pink champagne guzzling, diamond dripping glitteratis of the world and Princelings of China.

A question for you – would your Princelings forsake all their ill-gotten wealth using their position to have a nuclear war making all that gained as useless as dead pigs that floated down that river in China, the cause of which was unknown?

Think that over!

As far as the Maoists are concerned, there is hardly anything that they can destroy except schools and clinics since they, as it is, have not allowed any development to take place in the areas where they operate. They cannot venture and do not venture in urban areas!

 

[Ray]

I will note that when a Tibetan burns himself to death or gets locked away for sympathizing with the Dalai Lama, most Chinese could care less. Chinese popular sympathy for Tibetan separatists is probably ranked somewhere between Chinese concerns for animal rights and English football.

To the people burning themselves because the PAP sits on their faces all day long: we honestly don't care, it's our land and until you credibly threaten to kill us, we're not going away.

I go along with that.

Han arrogance knows no bounds!

Indeed the Hans consider the non Hans as barbarians or animals (as you said)!

You prove what I have been posting on this forum with regularity, which your compatriots have stoutly denied to show a 'moderate',. but false face of China, or Han China to be precise!

Your slip is showing!

The Han Chinese deprecating attitude to others have been exposed!