Dokhlam Standoff 2.0 : PLA Troops Re-deploy (Oct 2017)

[Screambowl]

some media outlets are trying to intentionally and imaginary trying to bring Doklam and escalate conflict. And MEA has to clarify again and again. What is this going on? Is it good or bad?

 

[Hiranyaksha]

Despite the onset of winters, Chinese PLA is continuing to consolidate its hold in North Dokhlam.

 

[Hiranyaksha]

Is there any update about our troops and preparation ?

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[captscooby81]

Not sure about our troop deployment in Dolam area . But remember that incident with chinese soldiers stone pelting near pangong lake well looks like it has been repaid with interest by our boots :bounce:

Is there any update about our troops and preparation ?

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[Hiranyaksha]

Not sure about our troop deployment in Dolam area . But remember that incident with chinese soldiers stone pelting near pangong lake well looks like it has been repaid with interest by our boots :bounce:

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Dil khush kar diya
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[Bornubus]

Is it good or bad?

30 incursion since last standoff. Good or bad ?

 

[raja696]

good we are standing up to chinese and they should be terrified that if they claim arunachalpradesh. we will break one china policy and eye tibet.

rest all optics. Rise India Rise.

 

[Screambowl]

Doklam Doklam Malyajata Shitlam.. sashay Shamlaa Mataram...

 

[Bornubus]

Doklam Doklam Malyajata Shitlam.. sashay Shamlaa Mataram...

Wah Pulkistani

 

[pankaj nema]

Not sure about our troop deployment in Dolam area . But remember that incident with chinese soldiers stone pelting near pangong lake well looks like it has been repaid with interest by our boots :bounce:

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I did not understand This

What exactly happened ; When and where

 

[captscooby81]

No idea when and where all i can understand is those chincom s got back what they given
By the way another one coming from a very high rank general who just retired ..By the way this is same Lt.Gen who was sided for General Rawat .
@Screambowl Yeh le bhai chinese were playing motivational music it seems . Hope they were not playing vande mataram..

I did not understand This

What exactly happened ; When and where

 

[lcafanboy]

No idea when and where all i can understand is those chincom s got back what they given
By the way another one coming from a very high rank general who just retired ..By the way this is same Lt.Gen who was sided for General Rawat .
@Screambowl Yeh le bhai chinese were playing motivational music it seems . Hope they were not playing vande mataram..

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Maybe this time around Chinese PLA personnel were sent to 72 chi-hoories just like their Porki Army friends on western border. So Chinese army MATAM Mana Rahi Hai by playing motivational songs....:biggrin2:

 

[cyclops]

Not sure about our troop deployment in Dolam area . But remember that incident with chinese soldiers stone pelting near pangong lake well looks like it has been repaid with interest by our boots :bounce:

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Is there a video?

Would love to wave it around in paki and chinki faces.

 

[Screambowl]

Wah Pulkistani

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arrey bhaiyaa koi humey bethae na seat par...

aisa ghumaunga sala as padosi khud ki identity bhool jayenge

 

[pmaitra]

India should not have withdrawn from Doklam in the first place. PRC will always try this. They will come to some agreement but go back on it at the first opportunity. It's like dealing with the Pakistanis. Their promise holds true for two weeks only. They are always looking for an opportunity to re-deploy. If India does not show spine, Bhutan might be bullied into giving away some of the disputed areas.

 

[pankaj nema]

Brig walked across to warn Chinese at Doklam: Bakshi

Ex-GOC-in-C: Didn’t move inch thereafter

"Complete operational autonomy had been given to commanders, we were geared up for a long haul. As we saw Doklam coming, additional formations had been moved beforehand Lt Gen Praveen Bakshi (retd), then GOC-in-C, Eastern Command
Vijay Mohan

Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, December 8

As the confrontation with China at Doklam in the Northeast began to unfold earlier this year, an Indian Brigade Commander, accompanied only by his buddy, had walked across the border and warned Chinese troops to step back. China did not advance an inch thereafter.


Revealing this here today, Lt Gen Praveen Bakshi (retd), the then General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Eastern Command, and the senior-most commander in the theater, claimed the Doklam (or Doka La) episode had been anticipated by the Indian establishment.


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Though China upped the ante through media and diplomatic channels, the spectre of war was very low, he said. There, however, was a possibility of China opening another front or a skirmish breaking out, Lt Gen Bakshi said at the two-day Military Literature Festival being organised by the Punjab Government.


Interactions with the Chinese commander in Tibet during his earlier visit to India had indicated his operational interest in that region, and heightened Sino activity in the sector was observed too, he said.


In June-August, Indian and Chinese troops had been locked in a 73-day confrontation at Doklam, a pass situated on the tri-junction of Sikkim, China and Bhutan, over the construction of a new road by China in the vicinity of a territory disputed by China and Bhutan.


On August 28, it was announced that the confronting troops had disengaged, though reports were still emerging that the two sides continued to maintain troop formations in the sector.


“Complete operational autonomy had been delegated to the commanders on ground and we were geared up for a long haul. There were clear-cut operational directions, requisite coordination among government agencies and the wherewithal was made available. As we saw Doklam coming, additional formations had been moved to the area beforehand and the troops were well acclimatised,” said Lt Gen Bakshi.


The engagement with the Chinese government was only through the Ministry of External Affairs. At the same time, serious internal disturbances in neighbouring Darjeeling region resulted in New Delhi sending a firm message to the West Bengal government.


Maintaining that psychological advantage lay with India, he said troops, while forming human chains, refused to back down and not even once did they break ranks. The area was under constant surveillance and a few instances of Chinese troops, who were mostly conscripts and regularly resorted to propaganda and playing loud music, breaking ranks at night were observed, he claimed.


Calling for an analysis as to who or what prompted Chinese action at Doklam and at what level were the decisions taken, Lt Gen Bakshi said China now viewed India as a threat and the standoff had forced Sino troop deployment along the Line of Actual Control. “Earlier, they only used to patrol the area. But now they have started building defences,” he added.


Another lesson from Doklam was that the border management of disputed boundaries needed a complete re-look and there could not be multiple agencies for a single border.
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@Screambowl @Bornubus @lcafanboy @captscooby81 @Kunal Biswas

 

[IndiaRising]

feel bad for Lt.Gen Bakshi. he would have made an awesome chief as well. just not his luck. i hope if next chief selection is superceded as well, whoever is in charge of Eastern command be made Chief or someone with vast experience in Northeast. it is time to show world that we don't consider pakistanis to be equals and that we see China as the bigger threat.

 

[pankaj nema]

feel bad for Lt.Gen Bakshi. he would have made an awesome chief as well. just not his luck. i hope if next chief selection is superceded as well, whoever is in charge of Eastern command be made Chief or someone with vast experience in Northeast. it is time to show world that we don't consider pakistanis to be equals and that we see China as the bigger threat.

He was superceded for a Larger purpose

 

[IndiaRising]

He was superceded for a Larger purpose

Gen Rawat is great, but was Lt Gen Bakshi superceded just for Op All Out? I'm pretty sure that Lt.Gen Bakshi was capable of doing that too. Unless Gen Rawat was picked for planning another '71 type event or even a small-scale incursion, superceding Lt.Gen Bakshi makes no sense. lets see

 

[pankaj nema]

Chinese frequently broke ranks during Doklam row: Lt Gen Bakshi

He said that China also used music to motivate its troops along with propaganda material.
CHANDIGARH Updated: Dec 08, 2017 21:42 IST

There was no clarity on why China was building a road in the Doklam region and whether the project was sanctioned by the top leadership, said Lt Gen Praveen Bakshi (retd).

He was heading the army’s eastern command when India and China were involved in the three-month long standoff earlier this year.

Speaking at the Military Literature Festival during a session titled ‘Strategic Perspective—China’, Lt Gen Bakshi said while the Chinese were frequently breaking ranks, the Indian troops stood their ground.

He added that China also used music to motivate its troops as well as propaganda material.

Speaking at the session, Maj Gen BK Sharma (retd) said, “To guard its strategic interest, India needs to tilt the balance in its favour and a degree of urgency is required in this.”




Claude Arpi, an author and expert on Tibetan history, said, “To learn about China, one needs to learn about Tibet. China is nervous and unstable about it.”

Former Indian high commissioner to Pakistan, G Parthasarthy, said, “Today we are dealing with a country which is hugely ambitious. The Chinese have built their military in a very sensible way. We have been trying to manage tensions.”

Speaking on employing diplomacy to effective use, he said, “We are aware of the situation in Balochistan. If we can’t build on it, we should no longer talk about diplomacy.”

He added that religion can also be used in our engagements with China. “We are home to Buddhism and can use it. We can’t run diplomacy by not allowing the Chinese to understand us,” he said.