Did Communism and Stalin save the world from Nazism ?

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Re: Right wing extremism.

I'm not scared in the slightest. I read Mein Kampf years ago, a pile of drivel and poo imo. I just can't believe in Indian nazi's, it's like Israeli's admiring Hitler :rolleyes:
Then don't go around scaremongering about that book? btw there are no indian nazis, you are just scared and seeing nazis everywhere.

We've debated Churchill to death, but feel free to carry on with your witch hunt ;) It is one of the reasons I posted his image as an avatar, to get bites and it clearly succeeded :cool:
He deserves all the "praise" that he gets, absolutely scum of a person.

He's not godly, but I admire him even if he was a self agrandising bloater :)
Then there is no difference between a nazi admiring hitler and you admiring bloody churchill
 

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Re: Right wing extremism.

Then don't go around scaremongering about that book? btw there are no indian nazis, you are just scared and seeing nazis everywhere.
I'm not scaremongering, I'm pointing out a fact. Unlike you :rolleyes:

There's no Indian nazi's? Really? Should I out a few members of this board that have said they are

He deserves all the "praise" that he gets, absolutely scum of a person.
Glad to be of help, but don't let your blinkered vision get in the way of facts and the truth ;) That's another bite, like shooting fish in a barrel :cool:

Then there is no difference between a nazi admiring hitler and you admiring bloody churchill
Of course a nazi admires Hitler. Are you a tad reterded? It's part and parcel of the whole idea of national socialism, to extol the virtues of the jumped up Corporal and failed painter. ;)
 

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The main German error was invading Russia in the first place. History's dustbin is full of empires which have collapsed due to invading Russia.

What Germany should have done is focus on winning the Battle of Britain and launching Operation Sea Lion to capture the British Isles by 1941, thus winning World War II.
That's like saying he should have focused on defeating Russia and leave N Africa, Greece etc etc to their own devices.

He couldn't launch Sea Lion without massive casualties as he didn't win the Battle of Britain. He didn't win that because his (Goerrings) tactics were flawed and just when they might have dealt killer blows to the southern airfields he switched to bombing London.

He had to invade Russia, thet is what the whole thing was about. Read Mein Kampf and in between the drivel you see .....

If he'd invaded Russia earlier and not had to bail out the Italians in Greece and the balkans, it could have been different; especially if the Japs had gone west instead of east, thereby Stalin being unable to relieve Moscow and Leningrad.

IMO, Russia undoubtedly could have beaten Germany on her own, albeit with a bit of help ie no Japs to worry about and the trucks from America. It's one of the reasons why we invaded Italy rather than France in '43, to cut up straight to Germany and stop the Sov expansion. However, that campaign became bogged down, hence the invasion of France to try and save France and the low countries from Sov domination.

If your statement had said "Hitler should have invaded Britain despite losing the Battle of Britain so he didn't have to fight a war on two fronts" I might agree, albeit that might not have had the outcome Hitler wanted :cool:
 

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didnt america saved stalin russia during WWII?
 

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didnt america saved stalin russia during WWII?
I don't think so personally. It is debateable whether the Russians could have made such gains without principally the trucks and other aid given by America. All that would have meant imo is a slower re-conquest of former Russian lands and eastern europe. The slower gains would have meant that the nazi's could have developed the bomb before the Sovs reached Berlin. Obviously, that's discounting the allied invasion of europe ie if America hadn't entered the war.

Once the nazi's had the bomb, that's an entirely different ball game. Moscow and Leningrad turned to glass ......
 

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I believe Lend Lease agreement played a major role in Soviet buildup.
 

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Attempts at rewritting history !!

Becuase USSR has vanished so you think her history has also vanished.....
 

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Attempts at rewritting history !!

Becuase USSR has vanished so you think her history has also vanished.....
Who? Her history is very much alive and can be seen seeping through the cracks on here judging by the amount of people who read and watch Pravda/Russia Today.

As I understand it, it's a 'what if' and there's so many of them. No rewriting at all tmk
 

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Shorn of the prejudices that has been impregnated into the mindset, pragmatically seen, much that one is averse to Stalin and Communism, the totalitarian method of governance and control did stop the Nazis in their track.
 

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Who? Her history is very much alive and can be seen seeping through the cracks on here judging by the amount of people who read and watch Pravda/Russia Today.

As I understand it, it's a 'what if' and there's so many of them. No rewriting at all tmk
If you have not read AJP Taylor and Alen Clark (Op Barbarossa), the famous and distinguished military Historians and (AJP ) being the political critique, both of the Britain ,then it is not my fault. you are bracing up the wrong tree.

Perhaps they were also product of Pravada like Karl Marx and Fredick Engles ?

Silly boy !
 

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Re: Right wing extremism.

I'm not scaremongering, I'm pointing out a fact. Unlike you :rolleyes:
Mention name of hitler and the english crap their pants :taunt:

There's no Indian nazi's? Really? Should I out a few members of this board that have said they are
Go ahead , most of them will turn out to be not Indians.

Glad to be of help, but don't let your blinkered vision get in the way of facts and the truth ;) That's another bite, like shooting fish in a barrel :cool:
The stupid english still consider their invasion a gift to India. That's how stupid they are.

Of course a nazi admires Hitler. Are you a tad reterded? It's part and parcel of the whole idea of national socialism, to extol the virtues of the jumped up Corporal and failed painter. ;)
Yeah i'm not retarded like the english who are slaves of their queen :tongue:
 

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Re: Right wing extremism.

I'm not scared in the slightest. I read Mein Kampf years ago, a pile of drivel and poo imo. I just can't believe in Indian nazi's, it's like Israeli's admiring Hitler :rolleyes:
Hitler has to much with the Industrialization of Germany.
We've debated Churchill to death, but feel free to carry on with your witch hunt ;) It is one of the reasons I posted his image as an avatar, to get bites and it clearly succeeded :cool:

He's not godly, but I admire him even if he was a self agrandising bloater :)
Respect to Churchill for making Queen a Bitch of Sammy!
 

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I am speculating here but probably, based on some stray comments, Scalieback thinks that the British empire in India was fondly remembered by a sizable number of people.

I hope the British do what we did and get rid of their Royal Circus - they are now getting their Queen to perform circus acts too :). Millions of pounds a year for that performance? :rofl:

We should rid ourselves of our slight colonial hangover and get out of the stupid Commonwealth, probably after the Gs.
 
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Partly true.
From the aftermath of WWI till the great depression, Britain appeased Hitler or rather helped in the rise of Hitler.
Open any Book on International relations and you will find how Britain helped in the rise of German economy and engineered great Depression so that Germany could pay her debts in 1000 per cent devalued currencies having no meaning.

It was only Stalin who out smarted them and concluded non aggression pact with Hitler to save Russia between 1939 to 1942/43.

My friend Scalia is trying to rewrite the history of his own country.
 

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Socialists And Communists Are Even Bigger Murderers Than Hitler's Nazis Were - Investors.com
In Europe, especially in Germany, hoisting a swastika-emblazoned Nazi flag is a crime. For decades after World War II, people have hunted down and sought punishment for Nazi murderers, who were responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million people.

Here's my question: Why are the horrors of Nazism so well-known and widely condemned, but not those of socialism and communism? What goes untaught — and possibly is covered up — is that socialist and communist ideas have produced the greatest evil in mankind's history.
 

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The author Walter E. Williams asks the relevant question, "Why are the horrors of Nazism so well-known and widely condemned, but not those of socialism and communism? What goes untaught — and possibly is covered up — is that socialist and communist ideas have produced the greatest evil in mankind's history."

Similar questions can be raised, such as, "Why did the US enter into a military alliance (NATO) with Turkey, that carried out the Armenian genocide?"

Mr. Williams should quit asking such naïve questions, and understand, that victors write history, and propaganda makes you either a good guy or a bad guy.
 

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2/3 of the world follow socialistic ideas in one form or the other ! Western societies are welfare Fabian states derived from socialism. Socialism as a theory has had the largest influence on human thoughts.
And you as a pompous capitalist ask these questions...
The questions were asked by Walter Williams.


Dr. Walter E. Williams, PhD; is an American economist, commentator, and academic. He is the John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University, as well as a syndicated columnist and author known for his libertarian views. Wikipedia
 
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