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At the start of the WC, no one expected them to do anything noteworthy. Most people felt they wouldn't even get through to the QFs. They pulled off 7 consecutive wins, which was completely above expectations.

And winning/losing is part of sports. So what if Australia has the population of TN? At the end of the day, you have just 11 players. Whether its a TN team or Australian team, there will be 11 players in the team, and either of them can win/lose depending on a variety of factors.

If you start behaving cranky and whiny like Times Now each time there is a loss, you're a sore loser, nothing less. Australia was a better team today and they won. If you expect a team - any team - to win every single match, you are no better than Pakis who break their TV sets en masse when they lose matches.
 
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And another reality check - this is what we've won from 2007-13:

ODI WorldCup
T20 WorldCup
ChampionsTrophy
AsiaCup
Test No1 Ranking
ODI No1 Ranking
T20 No1 Ranking

And today, after one loss, if you start screaming and shouting like Kamal R Khan, you've got to be daft, and the sorest loser out there, at the same level of Pakiness as a Paki. Period.
 

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At the start of the WC, no one expected them to do anything noteworthy. Most people felt they wouldn't even get through to the QFs. They pulled off 7 consecutive wins, which was completely above expectations.
Winning or losing is less important than playing the game well. today Indian cricket team played like shit - be it batting or bowling. IF India had played the way Sri had played against Aus in the QF - then no one would be complaigning about this.

And may be this is the problem - celebrating mediocrity as being "supportive"

If they want our praise when they win, then they should put up with our scorn when they play like crap
And winning/losing is part of sports. So what if Australia has the population of TN? At the end of the day, you have just 11 players. Whether its a TN team or Australian team, there will be 11 players in the team, and either of them can win/lose depending on a variety of factors.
Wrong - 11 players selected from a pool of few million is way different from 11 players selected from a pool of several crores.

If you start behaving cranky and whiny like Times Now each time there is a loss, you're a sore loser, nothing less. Australia was a better team today and they won. If you expect a team - any team - to win every single match, you are no better than Pakis who break their TV sets en masse when they lose matches.
No I wont break my TV. I am not stupid. But I wont praise these scum when they play like shit. And this is a nonsense strawman argument. No one is mad that they lost. They are mad that they lost without playing good cricket.

Indians have every right to be angry at the way India played today . If they dont want Indians to be angry about them for playing like shit, then they should stop playing under the name "India" and should play under the name BCCI.
 
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And another reality check - this is what we've won from 2007-13:

ODI WorldCup
T20 WorldCup
ChampionsTrophy
AsiaCup
Test No1 Ranking
ODI No1 Ranking
T20 No1 Ranking

And today, after one loss, if you start screaming and shouting like Kamal R Khan, you've got to be daft, and the sorest loser out there, at the same level of Pakiness as a Paki. Period.
They dont deserve our scorn for bad playing also implies they dont deserve our praise during good play. Since they enjoyed their praise when they played well, they should accpet scorn/criticism when they lose. Thats how this works. Sorry - you cant have it both ways - .ie only the rewards for playing well and not the punishment(metaphoric) for playing bad
 

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LOL u r comparing India with Austrlia.:rofl: With 22 mn pop they have WORLD CLASS ATHLETICS in ALL SPORTS (tons of Olympic medals).Here we shameless Indians occupy 70% Aust stadium&SHOUT like CROWS for every single run.And shameless CrtBHAKTS cry RIVERS against Channel, which just ask their performance.

I feel ashamed my self to call an Indian.
To be fair, their society gives a lot of importance to athletics and sports compared tor ours and we cant blame our society for that. That is the practical reality in ground. Unlike in Aus, our professional athletes cant live their life well with "sports " as a career. It ties in with economics of our country. When India becomes rich, the prospect of someone surviving on sports will increase and it will encourage more professional sports players and yyou will see more Indians playing in Olympics and winning medals .

But this is not an excuse for Cricket. Cricket is practically religion in this country and if these losers cant play even that right- then they deserve every bit scorn they get
 

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They dont deserve our scorn for bad playing also implies they dont deserve our praise during good play. Since they enjoyed their praise when they played well, they should accpet scorn/criticism when they lose. Thats how this works. Sorry - you cant have it both ways - .ie only the rewards for playing well and not the punishment(metaphoric) for playing bad
Scorn and criticism is different from making it a "shamed in Sydney" typical Times Now sensationalist shit issue. Its a game, and people win and lose in games, deal with it. And having drawing-room discussions or beer discussions about the loss and criticizing/scorning them there is different from a national media outlet behaving as hysterically as though China has come and annexed Ladakh. The only people who are "shaming India" are the Times Now idiots - who won't mock a nation that behaves like this in the loss of a cricket game, as though a national catastrophe has occurred, enough to "shame the nation".

And don't even get me started about the effigy-burning (of not just the players, but also of Anushka Sharma!!), and the retards who mimicked their Paki counterparts and broke TVs in Kanpur.
 

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Team India still gave the best performance in this world cup, why are people and media indulging in mud throwing and insulting the cricketers and people related to them.
 

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Scorn and criticism is different from making it a "shamed in Sydney" typical Times Now sensationalist shit issue. Its a game, and people win and lose in games, deal with it.
Again, if the sports team representing India does not play well, I as an Indian will express outrage, just as they enjoy my praise when they win. Deal with it.

And having drawing-room discussions or beer discussions about the loss and criticizing/scorning them there is different from a national media outlet behaving as hysterically as though China has come and annexed Ladakh. The only people who are "shaming India" are the Times Now idiots - who won't mock a nation that behaves like this in the loss of a cricket game, as though a national catastrophe has occurred, enough to "shame the nation".
Media demanding performance from the team is nothing bad or wrong. They played like crap and deserve the shit storm that receive. if criticism in the drawing rooms is good - why do you come here to express outrage at the politicians? Why dont you express your criticisms in your coffee rooms?

Sorry it does not work that way. People who like cricket a lot WILL get angry and let down when Indian team played the way they played today. Just because you dont feel outrage does not mean they shouldn't nor should it mean they shouldn't express it. And may be the lack of outrage over the Indian performances in Olympics is partially a reason for our glories in Olympics????

And don't even get me started about the effigy-burning (of not just the players, but also of Anushka Sharma!!), and the retards who mimicked their Paki counterparts and broke TVs in Kanpur.
:rofl:OK thats idiocy and nothing more
 

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Team India still gave the best performance in this world cup, why are people and media indulging in mud throwing and insulting the cricketers and people related to them.
If yesterday's match is the best performance they can bring, then they should not be in the Indian team
 

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Times Now creates stupid hashtag #ShamedInSydney, social media slaps it by trending #ShameOnTimesNow

Times Now creates stupid hashtag #ShamedInSydney, social media slaps it by trending #ShameOnTimesNow
Rahul Raj / March 26, 2015 / Reports

Times Now hit a new low of journalism after India lost to Australia today. While social media was getting flooded with Anushka Sharma and Virat Kohli jokes, the yellow journalism focused popcorn media house tried to spice the event with contemptuous hashtag (#ShamedInSydney) and ridiculously insane headlines.

It was not a fault of Times Now, they were just relying on their incompetent gossip-driven-sensationalistic people who create such masala headlines after Indian tours as sports journalists. Even a school kid would laugh if Semis are called First Real Test, but the ludicrous team took no time in calling it a humiliating flop show. Not only that, it also created Bollywood style narratives to target Virat Kohli by quoting pressure equilibrium reactions.

Interestingly, unlike other occasions, Times Now not only failed to create any sensation around this ridiculous hashtag, but they also faced sharp rebuttal from the social media. Social Media was quick to discard the #ShamedInSydney hashtag to #ShameOnTimesNow.

Yesterday, I wrote a piece on my unexplained melancholy after the South Africa loss, but today I was shocked by the extreme stupidity of Times Now. Times Now has not only pulled down standards of journalism, but they have also replicated what Pakistan journos and anchors (Shoaib Akhtar) have been doing. It was not a jingoistic outrage, but an expected logical agitation against a media house which was defaming efforts and sentiments of many people to raise the TRP.
 

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If yesterday's match is the best performance they can bring, then they should not be in the Indian team
Yeah! they won 7 matches in a row and certainly all started abusing them because they failed to defeat Australia in their homeground. :frusty:
 

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For blind jingoistic Indian cricket fans with no rationale or cricketing sense, ideal matches would be :

India chasing down huge totals and losing only by 5-10 runs
India bowling out opposing teams for less than 200
India making 300 in every match batting first and bowling out opposing teams for less than 250

Anything less than that would as per them be a bad performance regardless of results.

If that doesn't happen, then brickbats would come out.

Because as per them, "we Indian fans pay players so much so they should perform as per our expectations, not as per the ground conditions, the quality of opposing team or simply because of bad luck". :rolleyes:
 

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Again, if the sports team representing India does not play well, I as an Indian will express outrage, just as they enjoy my praise when they win. Deal with it.

Media demanding performance from the team is nothing bad or wrong. They played like crap and deserve the shit storm that receive. if criticism in the drawing rooms is good - why do you come here to express outrage at the politicians? Why dont you express your criticisms in your coffee rooms?

Sorry it does not work that way. People who like cricket a lot WILL get angry and let down when Indian team played the way they played today. Just because you dont feel outrage does not mean they shouldn't nor should it mean they shouldn't express it. And may be the lack of outrage over the Indian performances in Olympics is partially a reason for our glories in Olympics??

:rofl:OK thats idiocy and nothing more
It is up to you whether you want to outrage or rejoice or let it pass.

But a "national" news channel whipping up hysteria and creating immature hashtags of "shame" and the anchor bullying all his guests into submission (as he always does) - now that is a real national shame. The overall sentiment on Twitter is, "India was not really shamed at Sydney, but we are shamed everyday in news channels". And this outrage on Twitter is a very good thing. It is one more small step towards breaking the stranglehold of TV MSM on the news. These mediamen should learn some lessons in humility and realize that they cannot control (and distort) the narrative anymore.
 

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Through the whole WC, India played quality cricket.

And one bad day makes all the armchair critics and media people who aren't even that familiar with the game come out with knives and brickbats.

The issue is with TRP hungry media rather than jingoistic fans who have short memories.

Making a hashtag of #shameinsydney as if there is a national disgrace due to just a single match and start the charade of self-loathing and criticism just for own gains isn't fair.

There is criticism that is out of frustration by die hard Indian fans and then there is media manufactured criticism for commercial gains by piggybacking on national outrage and exaggerating performance issues.

The same media people who are knocking down Kohli due to that shot he played that got him out, taking potshots at Anushka Sharma would have been calling him courageous, even praising Anushka Sharma had that shot resulted in a four/six and had gone on to make a big score.

Such is this game.
 

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Yeah! they won 7 matches in a row and certainly all started abusing them because they failed to defeat Australia in their homeground. :frusty:
For blind jingoistic Indian cricket fans with no rationale or cricketing sense, ideal matches would be :

India chasing down huge totals and losing only by 5-10 runs
India bowling out opposing teams for less than 200
India making 300 in every match batting first and bowling out opposing teams for less than 250

Anything less than that would as per them be a bad performance regardless of results.

If that doesn't happen, then brickbats would come out.

Because as per them, "we Indian fans pay players so much so they should perform as per our expectations, not as per the ground conditions, the quality of opposing team or simply because of bad luck". :rolleyes:
Yesterday's match had nothing to do with bad luck. Indian team played like crap, thats the truth. And people criticising them have every right to criticise them. They dint play like the team that would bat to 300 and bowl out the opposition.

But yeah, defend their performance, because they played well in other matches. Totally makes sense:rolleyes:
 

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Yesterday's match had nothing to do with bad luck. Indian team played like crap, thats the truth. And people criticising them have every right to criticise them. They dint play like the team that would bat to 300 and bowl out the opposition.

But yeah, defend their performance, because they played well in other matches. Totally makes sense:rolleyes:
:laugh:

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OK? What does that have to do with what I said?

You know none of you guys defending Indian team today is ready to say that they played well that day and lost. Why? Because they dint:rolleyes:

Again, losing or winning is all part of sport. But the most important part of it is the part of playing the sport well. Did India play well that day?
 
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It is up to you whether you want to outrage or rejoice or let it pass.

But a "national" news channel whipping up hysteria and creating immature hashtags of "shame" and the anchor bullying all his guests into submission (as he always does) - now that is a real national shame. The overall sentiment on Twitter is, "India was not really shamed at Sydney, but we are shamed everyday in news channels". And this outrage on Twitter is a very good thing. It is one more small step towards breaking the stranglehold of TV MSM on the news. These mediamen should learn some lessons in humility and realize that they cannot control (and distort) the narrative anymore.
If your criticism is of the MSM, then may be you have a point. But I dont know how else MSM should express their disappointment with Indian performance.

But I am actually mad that Indian team dint play well that day and people here were mostly mocking the people who are mad at the performance of Indian team. Thats stupid
 

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One bad performance doesn't a bad team make. One good performance doesn't a good team make.

Blind jingo fans and the bazaaru media don't get that.
A good team should play good sport consistently dude. Come on now.

Indians have the right to demand that their team be the best in the world - considering how much they get back from Indians
 

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