Covert ops by foreign intelligence agencies

Samar Rathi

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In the past 3 years, two major nuclear institutions; Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) and Kaiga Nuclear Facility, have reported at least 9 unnatural deaths of nuclear scientists and engineers who had been working with them.

The latest casualty was discovered on 7th October, 2013, in the state of Andhra Pradesh, Vishakapatnam; two engineers – K.K Josh and Abhish Shivam (chief engineers connected with the building of India's indigenous nuclear-powered submarine, Arihant.) were found dead in a very strange condition.

They were poisoned first and then left on railway tracks to make it look like an accident. The story of other scientists is strikingly similar. One thing in common : all deaths were in mysterious circumstances. There is obviously a well planned conspiracy behind this and our nation is under attack.

The matter of shame however is, the government has opted to remain silent and media has decided to take it unfocused. The report was published by international media (Read an excellent coverage here : PMO unconcerned about scientist deaths)
In any other country, a single such death would have been sufficient to create a storm, we in India have chosen to ignore it.

Perhaps, for us our country starts and ends within the boundary of our homes. Nation can wait, we must go shopping today.
 

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PMO's silence is their answer just like their puppet PM says.

This issue is serious :hmm:
 

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@Samar Rathi You raised a pertinent issue of critical significance that needs to be dealt with a sense of exigency.

But, from the looks of it, fixing this would require immense focus, sustained relentless efforts & unfettered co-ordination between security/counter-intelligence agencies (that are supposed to be involved) & it is not going to happen anytime soon. The inter-organization rivalry between the multitude of competing agencies (with overlapping roles & authority, even between the Central agencies) makes it a distant dream.

Personally, I am all from covert (& overt as well, whenever it calls for) disproportionate tit-for-tat eliminations. I am a votary of the school of conflict, which propounds that: Cost of conflict must be raised to unacceptable proportions for the adversary within no time, at early signs/stages of provocations.

This must involve penalizing the foe's families, taking wars to their bedrooms & strictly following only 1 rule of the game, which is: There are no rules. No holds barred. No understanding between warring parties needed. Escalation is not to be feared; instead, it (escalation) is to be carried out, with rigor & tenacity.

Tough call. Like asking for the Moon. But, such a course of action is the only deterrent that can provide some semblance of safety to our gems.
 
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@Samar Rathi You raised a pertinent issue of critical significance that needs to be dealt with a sense of exigency.

But, from the looks of it, fixing this would require immense focus, sustained relentless efforts & unfettered co-ordination between security/counter-intelligence agencies (that are supposed to be involved) & it is not going to happen anytime soon. The inter-organization rivalry between the multitude of competing agencies (with overlapping roles & authority, even between the Central agencies) makes it a distant dream.

Personally, I am all from covert (& overt as well, whenever it calls for) disproportionate tit-for-tat eliminations. I am a votary of the school of conflict, which propounds that: Cost of conflict must be raised to unacceptable proportions for the adversary within no time, at early signs/stages of provocations.

This must involve penalizing the foe's families, taking wars to their bedrooms & strictly following only 1 rule of the game, which is: There are no rules. No holds barred. No understanding between warring parties needed. Escalation is not to be feared; instead, it (escalation) is to be carried out, with rigor & tenacity.

Tough call. Like asking for the Moon. But, such a course of action is the only deterrent that can provide some semblance of safety to our gems.
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To solve this and such similar problems concerning national security , we need to give administrative autonomy to agency which should be dedicated to tackle such problems without much interference or guidance of Elected executives.
 

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To solve this and such similar problems concerning national security , we need to give administrative autonomy to agency which should be dedicated to tackle such problems without much interference or guidance of Elected executives.
Unfortunately, giving too much administrative autonomy to secret agencies tends to produce large amounts of rent-seeking behavior. You're shooting for Batman, but what you end up with is a state-sponsored mafia.
 

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Unfortunately, giving too much administrative autonomy to secret agencies tends to produce large amounts of rent-seeking behavior. You're shooting for Batman, but what you end up with is a state-sponsored mafia.
Sir , i am talking about administrative autonomy and not financial autonomy. We don't want any batman , but agency which can preemptively prepare to deal with these kind of threats instead of only providing response.
 

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